Out of Control Kids: Ur Reaction?

Babyface said:
its not the same thing lol judgemental and seeing the facts are not the same thing rofl!
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You may think that having a child is so easy to manage, but just wait until you're a parent one day. ;)
 
Babyface said:
because I was a kid and have other siblings and a big immediate family not one of em ever acted up, because of good parenting, most the times when a child acts up it is the direct result of parenting so dont blame the kid blame the so called "parent" who thinks the problem will just go away if they ignore it
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WOW... how interesting... so I'm supposed to spank my son when he is upset or uncomfortable in the grocery store?? I'm supposed to whip out the belt on him when he's experiencing sensations you can not even begin to understand??? Please PLEASE enlighten me on this perfect parenting mode your family so lovingly used... it obviously turned out a well rounded happy young man... :D

Let me throw this out there... when an adult is unhappy, uncomfortable, in pain, hungry... etc... are they not allowed to let it be known??? Are they not allowed to complain, or fuss??? Are they told to sit down and shut up?? Or are they allowed to express their feelings?? One way or another???

Why is it that children are expected to be PERFECT??? ESPECIALLY children who do not have the ability to communicate in the sense that an adult would?? Why is it expected they behave like little adults when infact children do not have the cognative reasoning to do so??

Am I saying it's ok for a 10 year old child to throw themselves down in the store b/c they're told they can't have a toy?? NO!! But not every child who's crying in the store/park/etc... is a spoiled child reacting to being told NO!

AND YES walking away or ignoring the behavior is a strategy that is given to parents as a method to break attention seeking behaviors... I suggest you read up on parenting or better yet... give it whirl before you go around judging how other people handle their children...

one more thing... looking at a situation from the outside w/out knowing the facts... and making an assumption/opinion about it-- IS being judgemental!!!
 
Babyface, I find it ironic that you had to put in your signature "hmmm ignorance abounds" after the fact you felt you were judged.

Babyface said:
so now your saying my parents are unfit? thats a low blow jill, when one expresses his or her opinion then thats all it is an opinion you dont see me attacking you, yet since you dont agree with my post you attack me I could say the same about yours but I dont
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See how easy it is for people to pass judgment subtly?
 
In regards of the OP's post.

The multiple kids acting out while the dad is on the phone. I would speak out.

If a parent seems to be working with the child acting out then they are doing their job.

We all know small children will pitch a fit every now and then. If they are in a nice resturant with other paying customers then it would be wise for the parent to remove the child from the atmosphere for a few minutes.

No one likes to hear a screaming child when they are out.

I have been there.... where I went ahead and requested the food to go. Due to my child would not stop screaming.

I put her little butt in the carseat and sat in the car while hubby went and paid for the food and grab the to go boxes.

Got home and place her in her bed. She was simply tired.

It really all depends.

Just by observing how the parents handle it. If they are blantly ignoring the kids, then they are at fault.



If they are working with the child. Then how can they be bad parents.

I can see both sides of this debate.
 
Babyblue said:
I have been there.... where I went ahead and requested the food to go. Due to my child would not stop screaming.

I put her little butt in the carseat and sat in the car while hubby went and paid for the food and grab the to go boxes.
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It's so much easier when there are two parents, unfortunately single parent aren't so lucky.

I remembered when my son had a major tantrum at I-Hop, I took him outside and waited for him to calm down, then the ridiculous waitress had to phone the police because she thought I wasn't going to pay the bill after my other son had asked for all the food to be in "to go" boxes, Like she thinks I'll leave one son behind and take off? Where's her common sense? :roll:
 
Cheri said:
In case that you didn't know....

Doctors would recommend parents to ignore their toddlers who are in their stage of "terrible twos", not to give in to their temper tantrums that's when they become increasingly negative. When parents gives in or responds to their temper tantrums, the child will most likely turns into a spoil monster and the attention tends to make the tantrum last longer. It's very important that parents remain cool, and to never bribe a child to behave because a child will think it's a reward and will continue with their tantrums to keep getting rewards, because simply you gave in and respond to their temper tantrums. The more you ignore, the child will stop on his/her own.
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on the contrary if one ignores the problem the child will see it as acceptable and continue to do so later in life , becoming a spolied monster as you pointed out, my point being is it isnt the childs fault its lack of parenting skills
 
Let me throw this out there... when an adult is unhappy, uncomfortable, in pain, hungry... etc... are they not allowed to let it be known??? Are they not allowed to complain, or fuss??? Are they told to sit down and shut up?? Or are they allowed to express their feelings?? One way or another???


hmm yeah ive notiuced alot of adults kicking and screaming and bounding off the walls I see your point (notice my sarcasm), if a child misbehaves yeah give him a spanking, if hes only uncomfortable, but not acting out then give him reassurance that itll be ok, but throwing a temper tantrum is not acceptable,
 
Mrs Bucket said:
Babyface, I find it ironic that you had to put in your signature "hmmm ignorance abounds" after the fact you felt you were judged.



See how easy it is for people to pass judgment subtly?
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yeah try to play in my signature without knowing what it means
and I didnt pass judgement I said I could say the same thing she says but I dont because im not ignorant she was raised one way i another, thats the way it goes
 
Cheri said:
You may think that having a child is so easy to manage, but just wait until you're a parent one day. ;)
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whenever have I said raising a child is easy I didnt and I urge you to find the post where I said raising a kid is easy as all get out
 
Babyface said:
yeah try to play in my signature without knowing what it means
and I didnt pass judgement I said I could say the same thing she says but I dont because im not ignorant she was raised one way i another, thats the way it goes
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I fail to see where you are going with this signature ploy.

I merely pointed out the irony in your signature.

The fact you pointed out you didn't pass judgment because you could have and claimed you were not ignorant about how you and "she", the said person, was raised differently STILL insinuates a judgment call by itself.
 
Mrs Bucket said:
I fail to see where you are going with this signature ploy.

I merely pointed out the irony in your signature.

The fact you pointed out you didn't pass judgment because you could have and claimed you were not ignorant about how you and "she", the said person, was raised differently STILL insinuates a judgment call by itself.
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the ignorance abounds was not refering to this thread, and i see no ploy but apperntly you do, enlighten me where is this cunning ploy
 
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Babyface said:
on the contrary if one ignores the problem the child will see it as acceptable and continue to do so later in life , becoming a spolied monster as you pointed out,my point being is it isnt the childs fault its lack of parenting skills
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You seem to judged parents right off the bat for their child's misbehavior. Why do you just assume of bad parenting skills, That's not where the problem is. You have failed to realize that it's nobody's fault, not even the child nor the parent. It's just how the child expressed their frustration. All children misbehave and causes disruption, not one child is perfect. What do you expect those parents to do? beat their child just because they misbehaved? I'll love to see you try, because you won't have a child living with you anymore when the law comes after you. ;)

Many children find restaurants pretty boring and can't handle sitting still. They're likely to amuse themselves by shredding napkins, mashing food, play around with salt, pepper, or sugar packets. It's very common, I see it happen all the time, not just with my kids, but with others as well. So what, they're just kids being kids. :)
 
Cheri said:
You seem to judged parents right off the bat for their child's misbehavior. Why do you just assume of bad parenting skills, That's not where the problem is. You have failed to realize that it's nobody's fault, not even the child nor the parent. It's just how the child expressed their frustration. All children misbehave and causes disruption, not one child is perfect. What do you expect those parents to do? beat their child just because they misbehaved? I'll love to see you try, because you won't have a child living with you anymore when the law comes after you. ;)

Many children find restaurants pretty boring and can't handle sitting still. They're likely to amuse themselves by shredding napkins, mashing food, play around with salt, pepper, or sugar packets until their food arrives to the table. It's very common, I see it happen all the time, not just with my kids, but with others as well. So what, they're just kids being kids. :)
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spanking isnt a beating, like I said if the child is raised correctly then the child will sit there and keep his or her mouth shut or be polite and respectful and not be disruptive , and when did I ever mention beating a child thats attrocious how can you think stuff like that
 
Cheri said:
Many children find restaurants pretty boring and can't handle sitting still. They're likely to amuse themselves by shredding napkins, mashing food, play around with salt, pepper, or sugar packets. It's very common, I see it happen all the time, not just with my kids, but with others as well. So what, they're just kids being kids. :)
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also thats not being disruptive, and wasnt what the other child was doing screaming yelling etc shredding paper is different then kicking and screaming
 
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Babyface said:
spanking isnt a beating, like I said if the child is raised correctly then the child will sit there and keep his or her mouth shut or be polite and respectful and not be disruptive , and when did I ever mention beating a child thats attrocious how can you think stuff like that
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spanking isnt a beating,
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when did I ever mention beating a child
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I think it is safe to say you put the words in your own mouth.
 
Babyface said:
spanking isnt a beating, like I said if the child is raised correctly then the child will sit there and keep his or her mouth shut or be polite and respectful and not be disruptive , and when did I ever mention beating a child thats attrocious how can you think stuff like that
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Just how you could do so much different than most parents have not done when you're not a parent yet, you have not walked in their shoes, nor have any kids to even make suggestions or form an opinion on how to raise a child,. until you do have kids then you're more than welcome to share your suggestions and form an opinion based on your experience, otherwise I'm not interesting in hearing you out until you walk a mile in our shoes. Ty. ;)
 
Cheri said:
Just how you could do so much different than most parents have not done when you're not a parent yet, you have not walked in their shoes, nor have any kids to even make suggestions or form an opinion on how to raise a child,. until you do have kids then you're more than welcome to share your suggestions and form an opinion based on your experience, otherwise I'm not interesting in hearing you out until you walk a mile in our shoes. Ty. ;)
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I can apperently, since those people with an out of control kid there way doesnt work, by the childs actions, and that sums it up there way is..not...working. and it never will
 
Cheri said:
Many children find restaurants pretty boring and can't handle sitting still. They're likely to amuse themselves by shredding napkins, mashing food, play around with salt, pepper, or sugar packets. It's very common, I see it happen all the time, not just with my kids, but with others as well. So what, they're just kids being kids. :)
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That´s why I prefer to take my children to family-friendly resturant where there´re playground, toys and drawing, they can play with other children over just resturant, to respect the customers.

The waitress gave each child paper with crayon, they can draw or go yard of resturant to play with other children until the eat ready.

About play with salt, pepper, sugar etc to make noise to bother other customers is not acceptance in any resturant. I taught my children to not do that to respect other customers´s peace. If they do that then don´t take them to resturant unless they learn their manner first.

That´s why I go to family-friendly resturant and other people without children go to non family-friendly resturant.


 
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