Old Testament vs New Testament

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This is going to be my last post, because it seems so this had been going around circles from God Vs Satan and now in this thread Old Testament vs New Testament, nobody gets it, I'm tired explaining the same things over and over again repeatedly. Good luck to you, Reba, Eagle and Maria. I'm done.
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Yes, Quit from this thread is the only way out.
 
Cheri said:
You don't even know what pro-choice means. woman should have complete control over her fertility and pregnancy. Pro-choice - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia there's no "but" therefore you support abortion killing. That makes you hypocrites.
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Thank you for provide this link. ........ "her health or life (or that of the fetus) is at risk, contraception was used but failed" is belongs to Pro-Choice, that's why I support this. :)

Don’t trivialize when a woman decides for not want to risk her life/health to carry her unborn baby to full term due the medical reasons, etc. It can be life-threatening for her. That's why I 'm for a pro-choice and support women's rights because every woman has the right to put her health first, no matter what. If you decide for Pro-Life which means is you put fetus rights first before mother's risk health.

It will make yourself hypocrites if you support Pro-life and agree to terminate a baby due health/risk reason.




God DOES love us but hates the sins.
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It is not murder, God had a reason for this, because of His judgments, hating all sin, sin equal death for the one thousand times I've said that,
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What is this? He killed the people that's because he hate sin. Of course murder!!!! Kill babies, toddlers, children because of this... ?

and I'll say it again. God is the creator can do whatever he wants for his judgment
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Yes, it's exactly what I said in previous post that he create and kill the people what he wants. It's same thing with death penatly at justice system. :)
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PuyoPiyo said:
But I have to agree if the father abuse the children, then mother will have to deal with the children, not the father. But if father do nothing with the children and mother banned father from seeing the children are ABSLOUTE HUGE HUGE HUGE MISTAKE.
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I only want to say that it's not just father who abuse the children but mother as well.

I has to agree that it's a huge mistake to ban father or mother from see the children but let the children decide either they want to visit their father or mother.

Well, some people believes that it was a fairy tale. You can't change them till there's a proof.
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unfortunately yes.
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Cheri said:
Okay listen here, before God created Adam and Eve, He created angels, He also gave freedom of choice to the angels too same way he did with Adam and Eve, Most of those angels were good, did choose to follow God, But other angels made a bad choice that would be Lucifer and his followers so Lucifer and his followers were kicked out of heaven, Lucifer name was changed to Satan.

Adam and Eve should have been grateful for life and happy in their freedom, but freedom to choose does not bring happiness when bad choices are made.

God said, "You must not eat from that tree.(The Tree of The Knowledge of Good and Evil) If you do, you will die."

They both end up eating the fruit, Doesn't matter why it was planted there, You make a choice in life between right and wrong, between good and bad God gave us free will, We should be happy we are not slaves, We have a freedom of choice to do what's good, or do what's bad, If you chosen bad, You choose that path. God didn't tell you to choose that path.

It's takes an intelligent to know that he/she is responsible for their own life, choices they make in life all it takes to open your eyes to realized it.
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No matter what... I would protect my children's safety instead of test their faith. It's God's responsibly to choose to test their faith over protect their life.

I don't blame God for choices I made in my life, I know I'm a sinner, I'm not even embarrassed to say it. If you want to blame God for who you are today, Then you're a coward, You lead the life you choose to lead, You made that choice. You could turn that all around to have a relationship with God, You decide not to, so it makes it God's fault? No, It's the decision you made, the same decision Adam and Eve made. ;)
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Huh? I really has no clue what earth you are talking about. At first you blame Eve and Adam in previous posts at other thread for cause sin and defend God. We tried to convince you the fact and logic without blame everyone. Nobody blames God for that but accept our knowledge as history how and where sin come from etc. Why should we are angry and blame God or Eve & Adam for that? Nope, but accept it as history and acheive our own life with our own strength to focus my own life and my family life into good path. :)
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PuyoPiyo said:
Well are you saying that they was "FORCED" to kill? It's still are murder. Sorry my opinion, kill is a murder even if that person do it for job, that person AGREED to kill. That is a murder, period!
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If a police officer shoots and kills a person that is attempting to kill an innocent victim, is that "murder"? After all, the police officer killed in the line of duty, that is, part of his "job".
 
netrox said:
But after he got crucified, Paul wrote that salvation is by faith, not by works.

Galatians
"2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;"

Roman
"10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."

It is a contradiction. But Christians try to rationalize that since Jesus died for our sins, the laws are abolished. All we needed was faith in him.
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That's where you don't understand. As you see the differences is this, Paul is similar what Jesus is saying, all the law we have been broken by, was nailed on the cross. Our effort is useless, and does not mean we can sin we want, but letting God work each of us to become more like Him, but christians themselves have the choice. But sadly, many christians jumped quickly specific sins which confuse alot. Each christians respond differently of whatever weakenesses they face. Work itself does not bring it, and that is why Jesus point out, bec many claimed by based on their "works", but Jesus point out of their lacking. That is why Jesus bored our sins upon Himself.
 
Reba said:
If a police officer shoots and kills a person that is attempting to kill an innocent victim, is that "murder"? After all, the police officer killed in the line of duty, that is, part of his "job".
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A police officer has to do to defend himself to shot back if a person who tries to shot him in first place is a self-defense which is not same thing what God did to the people including babies, toddlers, children.

If anyone who defend themselves which mean is try to save their life themselves from not want to die.

Accord your post, every police officer are expert how to shot a person who tries to kill an innoncent victim then shot his legs or arms or tries to convince the person to not kill an innoncent victim, not kill head or heart. I know what I am saying because I work for Police Criminal Unit for 5 years in London before married and move to live in Germany.
 
christlovedeaf said:
That's where you don't understand.
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Yeah netrox, you just don't understand!

Have you noticed where it seems each christians has its own interpretation of what they think the bible/scriptures says?

Now..what's up with that?
 
Liebling:-))) said:
...Accord your post, every police officer are expert how to shot a person who tries to kill an innoncent victim then shot his legs or arms or tries to convince the person to not kill an innoncent victim, not kill head or heart. I know what I am saying because I work for Police Criminal Unit for 5 years in London before married and move to live in Germany.
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Just because you worked for the police in London doesn't make you knowledgeable about shooting. It's obvious from your statement about shooting at the legs or arms that you don't know anything about gun use in a lethal confrontation.
 
Reba said:
Just because you worked for the police in London doesn't make you knowledgeable about shooting. It's obvious from your statement about shooting at the legs or arms that you don't know anything about gun use in a lethal confrontation.
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Yes I know because the polices are training how to shot and how to defend themselves... They does at Wednesdays. We are allowed to watch their training during lunch time. Many polices do their sports on the field with guard dogs, etc. I work on Criminal Unit and read their statements what criminal´s identities look like, etc. how and what they kill or defense or whatever... etc.
 
Maria said:
Old Testament : God was around for years until.....

In the New Testament : God was born in the flesh named " Jesus " ( Immanuel : " God with us " ). :)
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And... he supposedly disappeared... forever. Same thing... ;)
 
xentar said:
Yeah netrox, you just don't understand!

Have you noticed where it seems each christians has its own interpretation of what they think the bible/scriptures says?

Now..what's up with that?
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Problem? Many follow teachers/pastors, bec problem is this, many go to church, only few study to make sure. This is where we will never agree, depend on a person itself than you study yourself. Like you think of christians bow dow before the cross, and etc, which is catholic related, not denomination related. The problem is this also, people picked the verses and ignore the other, which I don't approve of. Now, only way, that we can edify committing christians is sharing one another and aksing each other questions and ask God to reveal and etc, still humanist will not get it, bec there are others as seeing what others do and think that christians abroad believe the same. I only meet, very very few christians who are true worshippers, not the person who doesn't do "particular sins", but seeking after the living God. Noone knows the personal intimacy with God. And true christians doesn't compare like, I know more than you do, I'm smarter than you do, you have no excuse to live that kind of sins, and malicious gossips and etc. I learn everyday life and experience everyday life and learning many different views and still do. I must say, agnostic, humanist, some evolutionist, some scientist does not understand what christian believe and does not matter what church they grew up in.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Yes I know because the polices are training how to shot and how to defend themselves... They does at Wednesdays. We are allowed to watch their training during lunch time. Many polices do their sports on the field with guard dogs, etc. I work on Criminal Unit and read their statements what criminal´s identities look like, etc. how and what they kill or defense or whatever... etc.
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You misunderstood Reba, Liebling...she meant that have YOU
ever USED A GUN? Not by WATCHING THE POLICE AT TRAINING.
Doesnt matter whether you worked at Police station or whatever,
but it does matter IF, you practiced at shooting ranges, that you
have USED A WEAPON, PERIOD. Thats what Reba is asking you.
 
Here! Here what you just said, HURT my feelings. My sperm is mine. I decide whatever I want with my sperm, and those children who developed by my own sperm are also MINE. BOTH genders in the marriage have both same decision.
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Sorry, I disagree. It may be your sperm but the health of a woman carrying your sperm carries significant health risks. She's the one that's feeding and caring the fetus, not you. You simply have no say whether you like it or not.

Wah! So sorry to hurt your feelings! Wah wah wah...
 
Defee said:
You misunderstood Reba, Liebling...she meant that have YOU
ever USED A GUN? Not by WATCHING THE POLICE AT TRAINING.
Doesnt matter whether you worked at Police station or whatever,
but it does matter IF, you practiced at shooting ranges, that you
have USED A WEAPON, PERIOD. Thats what Reba is asking you.
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I understood Reba prefectly and only said that I watch the police at training which mean I know what and how they use the gun to shot.... It make no difference either I use gun or not but know from watch them how to use gun to shot. ;)
 
netrox said:
Sorry, I disagree. It may be your sperm but the health of a woman carrying your sperm carries significant health risks. She's the one that's feeding and caring the fetus, not you. You simply have no say whether you like it or not.

Wah! So sorry to hurt your feelings! Wah wah wah...
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Ok. Without a sperm, the baby would never develop. Men have the right too. Men have right to be a father too. Men have right to see his own children too. Men have right to raise his children too. Men have right for everything unless he abused the children or he made up the decision with his wife or ex wife.
 
Ok. Without a sperm, the baby would never develop. Men have the right too.
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Nope. Do you masturbate? You lose billions of sperm already. Does a baby grow inside you? Nope. It only grows in a woman's body therefore it's up to a woman to decide what she wants to do with it. It's NOT yours. You only spilled, she is the one that has to carry with a significant burden.
 
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