Obama & the Monkey Cartoon.

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Just playing hardball.
We're seriously cracking on AD'ers for their beliefs, so in retrospect its only fair that we do the same for the people described in the news reports.
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naisho said:
Just playing hardball.
We're seriously cracking on AD'ers for their beliefs, so in retrospect its only fair that we do the same for the people described in the news reports.
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Good point. Personally I find the cartoon horrible and in very poor taste. However, unlike certain people, I am all for freedom of speech however horrible and tasteless this cartoon is. Because people seem to becoming more intolerant of other's views lately and it does concern me.
 
Texan Guy said:
So, what? It's just a cartoon, y'all. Just like most of the politic cartoonists bashed on Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumfield for last 8 years. I didn't complain about it, I laughed.
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I'm not surprised you laughed and thought it was funny, given that you have a Confederate flag as a signature. You don't realize that this cartoon is racist, do you? Probably not. :squint:
 
sequoias said:
What does Travis have to do with the stimitus bill? They probably used the monkey as a black person for some reason.
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"monkey" used to be a degoratory/racist term for black people and that term is still used today, even. That's why they used the monkey.
 
jillio said:
Racist attitudes are often very, very subtle. That's one of the things that makes them so frightening. Acceptance of racially charged materials such as this is indicative of the attitude within oneself.
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Absolutely true. Black people say that racism still exist even today, in 2009, but white people claim that there is NO racism today. Well, the black people are right and there are still racism even today, and there probably will always be racism and there will probably always be racists. It's sad but true. I can see racism even today. I'm Native American, so I have been subject to blatant racism myself. So, yes, it does exist. I see it in mascots, newspapers, people's language, flags, etc. The truth is, it's most likely going to always exist as long as there are still some very ignorant people out there. Ignorance and ignorant attitudes leads to racism. I think racism will be around for a very long time, most likely forever. I'm sad to have to say that, but it's the truth. I'm not going to deny it and pretend that racism doesn't exist anymore. I refuse to lie and say it doesn't exist anymore. I have to tell the truth and say that it does exist, sadly.
 
naisho said:
Just playing hardball.
We're seriously cracking on AD'ers for their beliefs, so in retrospect its only fair that we do the same for the people described in the news reports.
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The cartoonist no doubt has moneys jabbering in his dreams. Serves him right. :)
 
dreama said:
I can't see the cartoon so can't comment on the exact contents, but it's only a cartoon. I'm all for freedom of speech.
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Only a cartoon?

THAT IS A VERY RACIST CARTOON! :mad2:

This is not acceptable!

You're all for freedom of speech. Okay. So, you're okay with white people calling people of color racist terms? Is that really okay with you?

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naisho said:
Just playing hardball.
We're seriously cracking on AD'ers for their beliefs, so in retrospect its only fair that we do the same for the people described in the news reports.
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This isn't about Sharpton. He isn't the only one speaking out against the racist overtones of this cartoon. And, I might remind you that it is not only Black Americans who find it offensive.
 
BradB08 said:
I'm willing to bet that if people weren't offended by this cartoon, they likely weren't offended by the cartoon that caused an uproar in the Muslim world in regards to the prophet Mohammed or just about any other racist cartoon.
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I remember that cartoon, and thought how rediculous the muslims that objected to it were being. I'm all for freedom of speech. Which includes 'racist' speech.

We should care more about people's lives then about some stupid cartoon. People these days. Their priorities are really screwed up.
 
dreama said:
I remember that cartoon, and thought how rediculous the muslims that objected to it were being. I'm all for freedom of speech. Which includes 'racist' speech.

We should care more about people's lives then about some stupid cartoon. People these days. Their priorities are really screwed up.
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They certainly are. Especially when people tolerate racist rhetoric and portrayals all in the name of freedom of speech, yet protest against a woman choosing a perfectly legal medical procedure.:roll:
 
Moderater: could you please remove Jillo's post as it's off topic. We aren't discussing abortion in this thread. We are discussing a tasteless cartoon and freedom of speech.
 
Just a note. Jillio didn't mention abortion.

But so much for being supportive of freedom of speech.
 
jillio said:
They certainly are. Especially when people tolerate racist rhetoric and portrayals all in the name of freedom of speech, yet protest against a woman choosing a perfectly legal medical procedure.:roll:
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dreama said:
Moderater: could you please remove Jillo's post as it's off topic. We aren't discussing abortion in this thread. We are discussing a tasteless cartoon and freedom of speech.
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Dreama, Jillio's post is not off topic. There is no need to remove her post.

Oh, and Dreama, if you are so supportive of freedom of speech, then why are you asking the moderators to remove Jillio's post? If you are asking the mods to remove her post, you are supporting censorship. :roll: So much for claiming to be supportive of freedom of speech. :roll:
 
LuciaDisturbed said:
Dreama, Jillio's post is not off topic. There is no need to remove her post.

Oh, and Dreama, if you are so supportive of freedom of speech, then why are you asking the moderators to remove Jillio's post? If you are asking the mods to remove her post, you are supporting censorship. :roll: So much for claiming to be supportive of freedom of speech. :roll:
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:ty: Lucia. That was my whole point. You can't say, "I'm all for freedom of speech." and then turn around and say, "But I don't like what you just said so I want it removed."
 
I would say it is right on target representing one of those monkeys in Congress! BUT they should not have perceived it as Obama, as he is spending too much time taming that zoo when he could put his good mind to work!
 
S.O.B. said:
I would say it is right on target representing one of those monkeys in Congress! BUT they should not have perceived it as Obama, as he is spending too much time taming that zoo when he could put his good mind to work!
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Perhaps if it had been presented a bit differently, it wouldn't have been perceived as such. The cartoonist said that wasn't his intent. Maybe he needs to take a bit more care to make sure that what he draws and what he intends matches up.
 
jillio said:
Perhaps if it had been presented a bit differently, it wouldn't have been perceived as such. The cartoonist said that wasn't his intent. Maybe he needs to take a bit more care to make sure that what he draws and what he intends matches up.
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Very well interpreted.
 
Yup, calling a spayed a spayed is truthful. Even if it is a bitch.
 
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