Obama supporters?

[Liebling:-)))]

who does? you don't need to have ph.d or be expert at economy to be the President. That's why the President have people working for him. All he's gotta do is say yes or no.

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working with Americans and living in America is different - especially when one is paying tax and voting the people to offices. completely different. Does researching about other country and talking on forum with natives for 5 years make me an expert?

Who says expert? I do not see anything that I say that I am an expert... I only say that I learn a lot about US system and economy from Americans. I really don´t have any idea why you misinterpret my post...

I only show the link to Pacman because he disagreed about McCain´s inexperience with economy after compared McCain´s economy with Obama. That´s all.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

who does? you don't need to have ph.d or be expert at economy to be the President. That's why the President have people working for him. All he's gotta do is say yes or no.

Oh wait... I thought you want president have political experience... Now you said different here... ?

 

[Jiro]

Who says expert? I do not see anything that I say that I am an expert... I only say that I learn a lot about US system and economy from Americans. I really don´t have any idea why you misinterpret my post...

I only show the link to Pacman because he disagreed about McCain´s inexperience with economy after compared McCain´s economy with Obama. That´s all.

well why don't I rephrase it - instead of expert... how about the in-depth actual experience? Your experience is limited to reading and conversing about it... which is why your posts/POV do not work well for American system. You cannot apply your European solution/suggestion to American system.

America = Democratic
Europe = Socialism
won't work well.

Obama can talk all he wants. Why believe his hot bulletpoints when he haven't done it to even his own state?

 

[Jiro]

Oh wait... I thought you want president have political experience... Now you said different here... ?

??? uh yea you do need that kind of experience to make that kind of decision.

Experience vs. Academic.... just look at Greenspan vs. Bernanke

 

[KarissaMann05]

Sighs.

I hate it when someone tries to change our minds about Obama and McCain... =/

 

[Liebling:-)))]

well why don't I rephrase it - instead of expert... how about the in-depth actual experience? Your experience is limited to reading and conversing about it... which is why your posts/POV do not work well for American system. You cannot apply your European solution/suggestion to American system.

America = Democratic
Europe = Socialism
won't work well.

Obama can talk all he wants. Why believe his hot bulletpoints when he haven't done it to even his own state?

I do not see anything that I compare US economy with EU economy here but talk about McCain´s inexperience with economy and then talk about learn US system and US economy from Americans.

Yes I aware for a long time about the difference system between America and EU. I can agree to disagree as the same as you can agree to disagree as well... What´s your point?

 

[Jiro]

1. I said that McCain cares about wealthy people´s welfare because his wife is rich.

Do you remember that McCain was against Bush´s vote for increase tax on wealthy ?

Due his interviews, his tax plan for wealthy remain unchanged.

maybe it's because about 20% of wealthy people is responsible for 80% of USA's wealth. they deserve a tax break now and then.

2. I said McCain cares about oil.

It explains a lot why McCain obsess Iraq war and want Iraq stay for 100 years... His plan for Iraq more than his plan for Afganistain.

if obama said he doesn't care about oil and is not interested in protecting USA's oil interest, then he is a liar.

3. I said McCain cares about war.

It explains a lot why McCain is against GI bill for veterans/troops because he think GI bill is too generous for veterans/troops... It tell a lot that he cares more about war than troops/veterans. If he really cares about troops/veteran then vote for GI bill. Why he vote against health care funding for veterans and troops? No wonder why many military trust Obama more than McCain.. Ron Paul and Obama received high donation from military.

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Hillary and Obama vote GI bill for troops/veterans.

Enough said...

oh well. that's the thing about democrats. they like to pay more than they have. it puzzles me how they can afford medicare they preach about.

for bring this issue up to make me too easy to response... Of course, I know....

Yes, many wealthy people support Democrats over Republicians for different reasons... They prefer to pay more tax to help low and middle income class people to improve the country over spend money on war issues... Many conservatives support Republicians because of tax.

I..... see.... so you choose to look at one side. They get tax cut so that rich people can pay more to stimulate the economy. get it? Not just for their own personal wealth. If you keep paying tax, then there's no incentive to put money into economy growth.

I don't mind paying my tax for social program to help unfortunate people but... I'm sorry. I have my own different priority. I'd like a major portion of my tax money to be spent on economy and other important things because in my opinion - that can help create more jobs, more incentives... and there would be less unemployment rate and more people can spend spend spend. Democrats are known for their infamous high taxes - something I don't like. and... I have never heard of "many wealthy people" preferring to pay more tax to help people... that's NEW to me.

 

[Jiro]

Sighs.

I hate it when someone tries to change our minds about Obama and McCain... =/

nooo nobody's changing anybody's mind. I'm just making them aware of other side - to demystify the stereotypes and the reason for one's agenda

 

[Royale]

I really have no idea why you complaint over my two simple questions because you correct someone´s post about Obama´s background?

I really have no problem with you for defend/support McCain in several threads. I really has no idea why you offend over that 2 simple questions that´s because I support Obama...

Oh pleasssee... :roll:

I am asking you this simple question: MUST I ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS WHICH ARE CLEARLY BIASED AND VERY SUGGESTIVE? I have every right to decline to answer your questions since they are biased and very suggestive.

Where are your proof that I support McCain? In this Presidental campaign, I am neutral. I have made points to counter your misguided and/or baseless arguments.

 

[Royale]

nooo nobody's changing anybody's mind. I'm just making them aware of other side - to demystify the stereotypes and the reason for one's agenda

I agree with you. Too many stereotypes are not hard to be missed here.

 

[KarissaMann05]

nooo nobody's changing anybody's mind. I'm just making them aware of other side - to demystify the stereotypes and the reason for one's agenda

Heh, okay.
I found a bit annoying when they are see one-way side... >_<

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I totally agree with your post. Liebling's argument was totally lubricious and illogical.

Look at your own post... You insult my intelligence...

First, the problem is your ignorant and arrogant.

Second, you claimed at other thread that you use common sense and know deep about political then ask me for specific instead of insult my intelligence. Common sense? *shake my head*

 

[KarissaMann05]

Well, you guys, I kept seeing ADers call a name against each other. It's pretty annoying, no offense...

 

[Royale]

Look at your own post... You insult my intelligence...

First, the problem is your ignorant and arrogant.

Second, you claimed at other thread that you use common sense and know deep about political then ask me for specific instead of insult my intelligence. Common sense? *shake my head*

On the contrary, the truth is clearly hurting. I rest my case.

 

[Foxrac]

First of all, I respect your decision for McCain but I has to correct some of your posts.

I thought you must have known that McCain admitted himself that he has no clue over economy when you compared his economy plan with Obama´s ? It look like that you don´t know all because you said yourself that you disagree with me here...

Okay, here is plenty of websites in the google:
McCain admitted himself that he has no clue about economy - Google-Suche



Should I repeat to fresh your memory why I know quite a lot about US system and also economy as well because I work together with Americans in real life for almost 23 years and also American Forums for almost 5 years as well?

Do you have the problem with people from different countries for agree or disagree with you over US system or US economy in American Forum?



Is it hard for you to not take my POV post personal?

If people said McCain has no clue about economy is just rumored and bullshit, I don't want to listen that bullshit, also I don't trust with Obama's bullshit either, you never know that US president could be lie or not trust with citizens, I had discussed with mine of good friend who is republican and explain about economy, I had took his side, not you, Puyo, Brad or other ADers who claim that.

You aren't resident of US, that means about you haven't knowledge so completely on presidential election, even you just got listen via media and internet, that it but not enough for you to get experience about presidential election, I prefer to discuss in real time over listen to media or online, even we are true american, even we don't need follow to EU or other bullshit, we should do on our own culture and Obama's tax plan looks too extreme for rich people who want create new businesses and hire people, even invites consumers to shop over wal mart or other big businesses, wal mart has long history that killed small businesses, I don't trust about Obama that he stated about would give a tax break to people who own businesses, even he could be lie, like happened to other president, I prefer for rich people have reasonable tax over high like happened in Europe, society and economy in US and EU aren't same, that's very different. If you work for USA, you are still lacks of completely knowledge and service has much to nothing, unless you got knowledge from some Americans who work in service, that's really not enough.

No, I have cease out the debate with you because you are very endless debate and couldn't stop, also I have full time job and need have more time to have fun, also need more time to discuss/post in other thread instead debate with you in long hours, you have lost my respect at overall.

Good luck with your wish, I will not switch back, that it, period.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Sighs.

I hate it when someone tries to change our minds about Obama and McCain... =/

Nobody change your mind but follow your own heart. It´s your decision which you want vote to. The debate over Obama and McCain helps voters with decision.

 

[Royale]

I think it would be wise for Obama to choose a Vice-President candidate with a great deal of experience like Senator Joe Biden or Evan Bayh so he will help Obama greatly his Presidential campaign.

 

[Foxrac]

Yes I aware it. What´s your point?

You made very illogical post about wealthy, Reba had explained to you about wealthy, that how her point to explain about parties aren't matters for wealthy.

 

[Royale]

You made very illogical post about wealthy, Reba had explained to you about wealthy, that how her point to explain about parties aren't matters for wealthy.

I have pointed the Democratic Party have many rich supporters like Warren Buffet and George Soros and that is why I considered her arguments lubricious and illogical.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Pacman´s post.
You made very illogical post about wealthy, Reba had explained to you about wealthy, that how her point to explain about parties aren't matters for wealthy.

I have pointed the Democratic Party have many rich supporters like Warren Buffet and George Soros and that is why I considered her arguments lubricious and illogical.

I responsed to correct Reba´s misinterpretation post #440. You should ask for specific instead of jump to the conclusion.