Obama lied about AARP Supporting Obamacare...and more

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Jiro said:
of course you will find any negative comments in ANY situations. So what? nothing's perfect. I suggest that you take their complaints with a grain of salt.
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No, BBC ASKED them for their view over Healthcare reform. BBC received all of their comments. They choose to make their positive and negative comments to answer BBC´s questions.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
No, BBC ASKED them for their view over Healthcare reform. BBC received all of their comments. They choose to make their positive and negative comments to answer BBC´s questions.
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right. so? every situation has positive and negative comments. Can't make them all happy! :dunno:
 
Jiro said:
right. so? every situation has positive and negative comments. Can't make them all happy! :dunno:
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Most negative than positive that´s why I suggest you to read their comments. You don´t have to if you don´t want to.
 
'Arbitrary' health care policies would end, Obama tells town hall

(CNN) -- An overhaul of health care policy will protect people with insurance from the "arbitrary" policies of the insurance industry while lowering their health care expenses, President Obama on Saturday told an audience in Grand Junction, Colorado.

Insurance companies no longer will be able to place caps on benefits or charge out-of-pocket expenses on top of premiums, Obama told the cheering crowd.

"No one is holding the insurance companies accountable for these practices. But we will. We're going to ban arbitrary caps on benefits. And we'll place limits on how much you can be charged for out-of-pocket expenses," he said.

The practice of canceling or denying coverage because of pre-existing conditions will also come to an end, he said.

"No one in America should go broke because they get sick."

Grand Junction is Obama's third and final stop in a series of town hall meetings in the West to promote health care reform, his top domestic priority.

While Obama has said consensus can be reached on health care reform, contentious town hall meetings held by lawmakers around the country have created a different impression.

Signs of rifts within Obama's party on the issue also persist, with Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania saying the House would not pass a health care bill until January or later.

The White House, and many Democrats in Congress, hope that by building support in the West, the president can start to turn the tide. The region is largely Republican, but Obama made some inroads in the latest election. He won in Colorado and lost by just a slim margin in Montana.

On Saturday, Obama spoke of the need for passionate debate on the issue, and assured the audience that productive discussion was taking place around the country in addition to the heated shouting matches shown on television.

"Health care touches all of our lives in a profound way. It's only natural that this debate is an emotional one. And I know there's been a lot of attention paid to some of the town hall meetings that are going on around the country -- especially those where tempers have flared," he said.

"But what you haven't seen are the many constructive meetings going on all over the country," he said. "I think that reflects the American people far more than what we've seen covered on television these past few days."

'Arbitrary' health care policies would end, Obama tells town hall - CNN.com
 
Liebling:-))) said:
It´s not my opinion but tell you from what I read their comments.
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curious. more negative than positive? but how?

50 million uninsured vs 250 millions insured.... hmmm...... :hmm:
 
Jiro said:
curious. more negative than positive? but how?

50 million uninsured vs 250 millions insured.... hmmm...... :hmm:
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250 millions has private insurance, medicare, medicaid, tricare and others that I don't remember, it all in combined.
 
Foxrac said:
250 millions has private insurance, medicare, medicaid, tricare and others that I don't remember, it all in combined.
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right. so 50 millions uninsured.... more negative than positive as Liebling claimed? Something's not adding up. :hmm:
 
It's really hard to compare one country's health care system to another when the demographics are so different. The populations are very different. Just compare the size of each country's population and you can see how one-size doesn't fit all.
 
Jiro said:
right. so 50 millions uninsured.... more negative than positive as Liebling claimed? Something's not adding up. :hmm:
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What about some companies who refuse to offers insurance to employees?
 
Reba said:
It's really hard to compare one country's health care system to another when the demographics are so different. The populations are very different. Just compare the size of each country's population and you can see how one-size doesn't fit all.
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and people are FREE to move to wherever it's suitable to their needs. No need to force country's system into other country. :cool2:
 
Foxrac said:
What about some companies who refuse to offers insurance to employees?
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correct me if I'm wrong - all employees are automatically added to their employer's healthcare plan.
 
I'm personally not interested to live in other country because I love my life in America so there's some cons as well.
 
Jiro said:
correct me if I'm wrong - all employees are automatically added to their employer's healthcare plan.
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Not some people that I met, when they work with small companies and employer never offers health care plan to them.

You can ask Sequioas because he works part time at car rental and job doesn't offers health care plan to him due require to be full time.
 
Foxrac said:
I'm personally not interested to live in other country because I love my life in America so there's some cons as well.
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there you go! Even other country with universal healthcare has their cons. If "universal healthcare" is on top of your agenda - then there are plenty of other countries to move to. My deciding factor to remain in America is its capitalism, democracy, and multicultural aspect. :cool2:
 
Jiro said:
there you go! Even other country with universal healthcare has their cons. If "universal healthcare" is on top of your agenda - then there are plenty of other countries to move to. My deciding factor to remain in America is its capitalism, democracy, and multicultural aspect. :cool2:
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I'm not in love with universal health care, unless private insurance offers affordable insurance and good policies, also I don't know about how universal health care will works in America.

Americans can change the way in many years later so we never know.
 
Foxrac said:
Not some people that I met, when they work with small companies and employer never offers health care plan to them.

You can ask Sequioas because he works part time at car rental and job doesn't offers health care plan to him due require to be full time.
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well that's the policy. insurance is very expensive to offer. You do need to be full-time to have health coverage. If Seq wants it, then he'll have to try to get hired as full-time. Why pay more for insurance cost that costs more than paying part-time salary? That does not make sense to offer health coverage to part-time workers.

again - I'm all for AFFORDABLE healthcare. Seq SHOULD be able to afford healthcare on his own. If he cannot afford it and if he's within a certain income bracket, then he can be qualified for Medicare/Medicaid or whatever the government has to offer.
 
Jiro said:
well that's the policy. insurance is very expensive to offer. You do need to be full-time to have health coverage. If Seq wants it, then he'll have to try to get hired as full-time. Why pay more for insurance cost that costs more than paying part-time salary? That does not make sense to offer health coverage to part-time workers.

again - I'm all for AFFORDABLE healthcare. Seq SHOULD be able to afford healthcare on his own. If he cannot afford it and if he's within a certain income bracket, then he can be qualified for Medicare/Medicaid or whatever the government has to offer.
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You means affordable dedicated health care insurance plan?
 
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