Obama is Not Black

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This whole discussion reminds me too much of the German obsession with "Jewish blood" during Hitler's reign. :cold: The Germans had all kinds of detailed "scientific" charts for determining the Jewishness of someone, which they used for evil purposes.

I don't think it's a good time to invoke Godwin's Law.

Regardless, I don't care about Obama's skin color. It's the message that matters.
 
So, you say you're Greek cuz you look like it... and Obama is black cuz he looks like it?

I guess we'll all say that Michael Jackson is white cuz he looks like it. :)

I think he is black, it's my opinion. I am proudly to be called Greek, even though I have German and English in my blood.

Agreed. I have Irish and English in me, and I picked Irish 'cause I'm easily to off-temper, challenge with physically, love to drink the alcohols, and looked like one. :lol: Anyway, Obama looks an African-American to my eyes buy why complain? He married to FULL African-American woman, anyway.

:lol: Yea it depends on people's personality and interests, whatever they want to be called.
 
You can call me Ray.
You can call me Jay
You can call me Ray Jay
But don't you call me white
 
I don't think it's a good time to invoke Godwin's Law.
That wasn't my goal. I felt that way since the first posts in this thread. Emphasis on racial categorizing has that effect on me.

Godwin aside, sometimes current events do relate to past events in the cycle of history. :)
 
I am not here on her/his side. or I never know this poster, nor even chat with dead money before. However Dead Money's Posts telling the truth about M.Jackson. I obviously see that poster collect and resource from his/her black friends who revealed against MJacko and against his lifestyle which are true!
 
I am not here on her/his side. or I never know this poster, nor even chat with dead money before. However Dead Money's Posts telling the truth about M.Jackson. I obviously see that poster collect and resource from his/her black friends who revealed against MJacko and against his lifestyle which are true!

:roll: ok
 
a recruiter is obama supporter, but show her true what?

this woman worked as a recruiter to get people to vote for Obama. Mmm ugly truth came out her mouth that how shes talking. I guess she is the truth!

*Warning* nasty mouth... Obama won't denounce this supporter after he dismissed his own spiritual mentor.. :whistle:
 
this woman worked as a recruiter to get people to vote for Obama. Mmm ugly truth came out her mouth that how shes talking. I guess she is the truth!

*Warning* nasty mouth... Obama won't denounce this supporter after he dismissed his own spiritual mentor.. :whistle:

I guess she is not the truth.
 
This is a thought provoking thread on how race is defined by others. As for Vitiligo, I've heard of it but the picture that jillio showed really helped. I remember seeing blacks with patches of white skin and wondering why their skin were pale in places... Now I know why.

My parents are very old school when it comes to races. I think it's likely that I may have some Indians and a drop or two of black blood in my family; We've been around for over 300 years in America so a mix is likely. Not many people had slaves where my mother's family lived for 300 years so it's unlikely I have more than a drop or two of black blood. I don't dare ask though cuz race is a sensitive matter in my family.

I usually tell others that I'm of mostly Germanic descent. My family is of Swiss-German, Prussian, Norman, English and Saxon origin and it's proable that one branch of my mother's family was Jewish or Slavic in orgin but I don't know for sure. If I had a choice of choosing my family background, I'd pick anything but Germanic origin thanks to Hitler. Being of Germanic descent doesn't mean I'm better than other.

To my parents, Obama will always be black in their eyes. To me, he's of mixed descent.
 
This is a thought provoking thread on how race is defined by others. As for Vitiligo, I've heard of it but the picture that jillio showed really helped. I remember seeing blacks with patches of white skin and wondering why their skin were pale in places... Now I know why.

My parents are very old school when it comes to races. I think it's likely that I may have some Indians and a drop or two of black blood in my family; We've been around for over 300 years in America so a mix is likely. Not many people had slaves where my mother's family lived for 300 years so it's unlikely I have more than a drop or two of black blood. I don't dare ask though cuz race is a sensitive matter in my family.

I usually tell others that I'm of mostly Germanic descent. My family is of Swiss-German, Prussian, Norman, English and Saxon origin and it's proable that one branch of my mother's family was Jewish or Slavic in orgin but I don't know for sure. If I had a choice of choosing my family background, I'd pick anything but Germanic origin thanks to Hitler. Being of Germanic descent doesn't mean I'm better than other.

To my parents, Obama will always be black in their eyes. To me, he's of mixed descent.[/QUOTE]

Now, that's when I find it so fascinating even though it could be a bad thing. In the older generations, they dont see him as we do. Like with my hubby's older relatives (they are all black), they dont consider him black because he is not 100% black but your parents consider him black. I think they were strongly influenced by the one drop rule.

You and I see him as a mixed descent.
 
Obama's true colors: Black, white ... or neither?

Many people insist that 'the first black president' is actually not black



Obama has said, "I identify as African-American — that's how I'm treated and that's how I'm viewed. I'm proud of it." In other words, the world gave Obama no choice but to be black, and he was happy to oblige.



Defining 'mutt' Obama's true colors - Race & ethnicity- msnbc.com






 
This whole discussion reminds me too much of the German obsession with "Jewish blood" during Hitler's reign. :cold: The Germans had all kinds of detailed "scientific" charts for determining the Jewishness of someone, which they used for evil purposes.

Yes, I was like wow because this thread remind me of Nazi time... I just cannot understand why it is so important to some Americans to continue to discuss Obama's race.

I find interesting that media or anyone care about the skin color or nationality. It haven't done since WWII... :shock:

I thought Americans are suppose to focus a person with qualification for their country instead of skin color. Why does the race important thing than consider someone's qualification??????

 
To me.. everyone is human. I don't see everyone as their nationality/gender/race/sexuality. I see everyone as human, period.
 
To me.. everyone is human. I don't see everyone as their nationality/gender/race/sexuality. I see everyone as human, period.

If more people had your perspective, Mrs. Bucket, this world would be a much more loving place.
 
To me.. everyone is human. I don't see everyone as their nationality/gender/race/sexuality. I see everyone as human, period.

I wish that would apply to everyone else who could have the same views but unfortunately, the world is not like this. :(
 
The fact that people have to point out that he's black/mixed/whatever shows that racism is still prevalant. Not because they are pointing it out, but because they feel the NEED to point it out to show his achievement. If being black and successful is an "achievement" then that's messed up in so many levels. If there were truly no racism, then there wouldn't be any need to focus on his race.

Screw first african-american/black/bi-racial president. How about the first president to clean up the largest shit in history?
 
The fact that people have to point out that he's black/mixed/whatever shows that racism is still prevalant. Not because they are pointing it out, but because they feel the NEED to point it out to show his achievement. If being black and successful is an "achievement" then that's messed up in so many levels. If there were truly no racism, then there wouldn't be any need to focus on his race.

Screw first african-american/black/bi-racial president. How about the first president to clean up the largest shit in history?

Didn't you learn about Roosevelt after the Hoover administration?
 
Didn't you learn about Roosevelt after the Hoover administration?

Haha sorry, I didn't do very well in history.... not my kinda thing. I had the mentality: "History happened, get over it."

But I grew up (I think?), so I'm trying to be more educated about things!
 
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