NYC now the safest big city!

Based on my calculations.

NYC has 5.62 murders per 100,000.

Seattle has 5 murders per 100,000.

So, they're both safe big cities, anyway.
 
Jiro said:
well - Philadelphia continues to have high crime rate. Detroit too. But why it's working in NYC? It's because of Malcolm Gladwell's consultation and dedication by NYC's Finest - Bratton... and few other variables.
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Ahhh OK. Here, one of the safest cities is Toronto, which is our largest with a population of 4 million. The most dangerous city in Canada is Regina, Saskatchewan. It's a very small (150,000 people) and insignificant city (except for the fact that it's the capital of Saskatchewan). Most of the violence comes from young natives who have formed gangs.
 
kokonut said:
Seatle is 91 square miles or 8 miles by 8 miles large just for perspective here. That'd be .3 murder for every square mile which would be 5 times less than NYC.
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If you're more likely to be murdered in a less populated city than in a highly populated city, you'd still go for the less populated city?!?! If you do, then I give you the Darwin's Award.
 
sequoias said:
Based on my calculations.

NYC has 5.62 murders per 100,000.

Seattle has 5 murders per 100,000.

So, they're both safe big cities, anyway.
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I love both cities. Had a great time in Seattle. great city. great people. great salmon food. thanks for showing me around, seq :cool2:
 
Jiro said:
I love both cities. Had a great time in Seattle. great city. great people. great salmon food. thanks for showing me around, seq :cool2:
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Not a problem! If I decide to come visit NYC, be sure to show me around. I didn't really go in Manhattan...mostly visited Brooklyn where my grandma used to live. I was a kid back then, too.
 
sequoias said:
Seattle had only 30 murders last year, but don't know about this year. 461 for over 8.2 million people is pretty good ratio, though.
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8.2 million squeeze into a 301 square miles. That's 27,200 people per square mile with a murder rate of 1.5.

Seattle's population is close to 600,000 squeeze into 91 square miles. Or about 6,600 people per square mile with a murder rate of 0.3. Multiply that by 5 to get the equivalent of NYC murder rate per square mile would have the equivalent of 30,300 people per square mile for Seattle. So, NYC is slightly better than Seattle in terms of murder rate but statistically speaking they're nearly equivalent.
 
netrox said:
If you're more likely to be murdered in a less populated city than in a highly populated city, you'd still go for the less populated city?!?! If you do, then I give you the Darwin's Award.
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Larger cities have more inherent problems and increased risk when it comes to one's own life whether it's getting murdered, attacked, be involved in a traffic accident, gang warfare, and other crimes against you. I feel safe walking around alone at night in where I live. Can people say the same thing in NYC or other cities? Not likely.
 
kokonut said:
8.2 million squeeze into a 301 square miles. That's 27,200 people per square mile with a murder rate of 1.5.

Seattle's population is close to 600,000 squeeze into 91 square miles. Or about 6,600 people per square mile with a murder rate of 0.3. Multiply that by 5 to get the equivalent of NYC murder rate per square mile would have the equivalent of 30,300 people per square mile for Seattle. So, NYC is slightly better than Seattle in terms of murder rate but statistically speaking they're nearly equivalent.
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Right, they're both similar. I calculated it with Seattle's population of 601,000 from the latest estimate and NYC with roughly 8.2 million. I thought Seattle is 85 sq miles? Some sources say it's 91 and other say it's 85? odd.
 
Foxrac said:
The murder rate is usually counted per 100,000, it will lower if more population.

Yes, it is single year since crime rate is counted every year.
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The ratio would still be the same whether you use 100, 1000, 10,000 or 100,000 people.
 
kokonut said:
Larger cities have more inherent problems and increased risk when it comes to one's own life whether it's getting murdered, attacked, be involved in a traffic accident, gang warfare, and other crimes against you. I feel safe walking around alone at night in where I live. Can people say the same thing in NYC or other cities? Not likely.
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yes.....I have lived all of my life in NY. & I have walked around Manhattan at night. I actually got mugged in Queens Village, NY. Less than a mile from the Nassau border on Long Island.
I can say I feel MUCH safer in Manhattan than in Queens.
 
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If using a single population figure for a city to base it from, yes, Jiro.

1 million people with, say, 1000 murders a year, would give it 10 murders per 10,000 people which is a ratio of 0.001
Or 1 murder per 1000 = 0.001.
Or 100 murders per 100,000 = 0.001
 
kokonut said:
The ratio would still be the same whether you use 100, 1000, 10,000 or 100,000 people.
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ALL US crime report are based on per 100,000.

I'm not kidding since I had studied on crime rate when I was teen.
 
kokonut said:
If using a single population figure for a city to base it from, yes, Jiro.

1 million people with, say, 1000 murders a year, would give it 10 murders per 10,000 people which is a ratio of 0.001
Or 1 murder per 1,000 = 0.001.
Or 100 murders per 100,000 = 0.001
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too bad theoretical math doesn't work in real life. It's missing a lot of variables. Clearly we have taken actions about it - that is why NYC is the safest city in USA. :cool2:

sorry to hear that you didn't like it here but that's ok.
 
Foxrac said:
ALL US crime report are based on per 100,000.

I'm not kidding since I had studied on crime rate when I was teen.
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You don't understand. The ratio would be the same if it's by per 100, 1000, or 10000. It's fine if they use it by per 100,000. It wouldn't change the ratio if they used per 10,000.
 
Jiro said:
too bad theoretical math doesn't work in real life. It's missing a lot of variables. Clearly we have taken actions about it - that is why NYC is the safest city in USA. :cool2:

sorry to hear that you didn't like it here but that's ok.
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Ratios are not theoretical it's a fraction term.

1/10 = 1:10
1/2 = 1:2
100 murders per 100,000 = 100:100,000

The ratio does not and cannot change when basing from a single total population figure and murder rate. If you choose by per 10,000 you'll still get the same ratio result as per 100,000 or by per 1,000.
 
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