North Korea threatens U.S.with Nuclear war!

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VamPyroX said:
How is it Clinton's fault?
He didnt do his job right.He was so soft on North Korea and on Al Queda.For example Bush Spend Billions getting Terrorist.Bill Clinton Spent Billions getting Bill Gates.Bush got Saddam and Most of Al Queda and Killed some of them.Bill Clinton was too chicken to do something about saddam,Al Queda or North Korea.
 
Buckdodgers said:
JFK & REAGAN would both put a military blockade over north korea.THIS IS ALL BILL CLINTONS FAULT!! If he would had done his job like he was supposed to do we wouldnt had this mess by now.Face it Democrats are done!!! American people will never vote for another left winged liberal to the white house ever again.You see Bill Clinton never wanted to get tough with North Korea! Rush Limbaugh is right.Rush said But Noooo Clinton had to send allbright to Kim Jung and she negotiated by saying And KIm Jung Agreed and then when the US Deligation left North Korea Kim Jung Laughed and look at the USA as a bunch of fools.THIS IS WHY LIBERALS SHOULD NOT HOLD HIGH POWER ANYMORE!! Ever since the 1960s The World got worse when liberalism took power,,America isnt what it used to be because of liberalism.So If we all start by getting rid of Clowns like Ted Kennedy,,Barbra Boxer,,Diane Feinstein,,Nancy Peloski And Harry Reid out of office then we might changes back to the real america again.

Sorry, I have to totally disagree with this er...assessment. It should have been dealt with way back when the conflict was going on or shortly thereafter. Macarthur (this is not to say there weren't some issues with this brilliant general) had the right idea about going all the way even it meant going against the Chinese. Unfortunately, that was too politically unpalatable and appeared at the time very costly from a military standpoint which was true as we just got done with WWII back in '46.

Everybody else who inherited this "problem" cannot be blamed as things kind of got settled and the best of a bad situation arose out of it (i.e., SK great economic ascent). It will eventually be resolved over time as the "Great Idiot" will leave the scene at some point.
 
Cynical Vez said:
Don't blame Clinton...he's not a warmonger like Bush.
Well At Least Bush is doing something about terrorism.Clinton Did nothing about Terrorism except bombed the Chinese Embassy and Bombed an aspirn factory while invading Kosovo.And Millovich didnt even have WMDs and wasnt a threat to the United States.
 
Buckdodgers said:
He didnt do his job right.He was so soft on North Korea and on Al Queda.For example Bush Spend Billions getting Terrorist.Bill Clinton Spent Billions getting Bill Gates.Bush got Saddam and Most of Al Queda and Killed some of them.Bill Clinton was too chicken to do something about saddam,Al Queda or North Korea.
Eh? Bill Gates? WTF?
 
Cynical Vez said:
Don't blame Clinton...he's not a warmonger like Bush.

No, Clinton would have said let's cut and run when the going gets tough. There is a different in understanding what it takes to keep the peace as opposed to wishing peace. Clinton would have preferred the terrorists come to the US instead of taking the fight to them. That way he could claim how cruel they were and how they could cared less about innocents. He could wash his hands of it since he wasn't picking a fight against the terrorist. Pick your poison...

Thoughout all history, the ones who wished it in the past are gone.... There has to be a balance between war and peace as it is the nature of man. Anybody who ignores that...ignores it at their own peril... I'm always amazed how people forgot so many lessons from the past like "Peace in our time!" Neville Chamberlain (British PM) just before WWII.
 
sr171soars said:
No, Clinton would have said let's cut and run when the going gets tough. There is a different in understanding what it takes to keep the peace as opposed to wishing peace. Clinton would have preferred the terrorists come to the US instead of taking the fight to them. That way he could claim how cruel they were and how they could cared less about innocents. He could wash his hands of it since he wasn't picking a fight against the terrorist. Pick your poison...

Thoughout all history, the ones who wished it in the past are gone.... There has to be a balance between war and peace as it is the nature of man. Anybody who ignores that...ignores it at their own peril... I'm always amazed how people forgot so many lessons from the past like "Peace in our time!" Neville Chamberlain (British PM) just before WWII.

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sr171soars said:
No, Clinton would have said let's cut and run when the going gets tough. There is a different in understanding what it takes to keep the peace as opposed to wishing peace. Clinton would have preferred the terrorists come to the US instead of taking the fight to them. That way he could claim how cruel they were and how they could cared less about innocents. He could wash his hands of it since he wasn't picking a fight against the terrorist. Pick your poison...

Thoughout all history, the ones who wished it in the past are gone.... There has to be a balance between war and peace as it is the nature of man. Anybody who ignores that...ignores it at their own peril... I'm always amazed how people forgot so many lessons from the past like "Peace in our time!" Neville Chamberlain (British PM) just before WWII.
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This thread is starting to smell like Ravensten (sp) thread...

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Boult said:
This thread is starting to smell like Ravensten (sp) thread...

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It may be. As long as it doesn't degenerate really badly (like cussing up the joint and getting real personal), I have fun with these type of threads. Great practice to keep one's wits sharp by arguing a "sounder" viewpoint than some of these er..ah interesting thinkers around here... ;)
 
LisaMarie said:
oh man. i honestly have no idea what is the heck matter with NK! UGH!!! why cant we just simply get along with each other? i wonder why China and Russian arent helpnig us? they kept on saying leave it be... i disagree!! i m worried if soething really did happen such a nuclear.. i heard on the cnn news. they successful launched to western USA.. now i wonder if it would be real next time? damn better not!

No one knows what Kim Jong II wants; he is an insane leader. I'm not talking about normal leaders who care for their people, but something is wrong with his inside head. In 1990 til now, he made his people go through a bad period of famine. He does not allow any food trades and he allows a small scale of food from UN World food programme into his country. Not many people know what's going on inside North Korea and it is isolated from everyone. Yesterday, I was watching a secretive footage about two young boys who transport a few illgeal tapes out of North Korea. If both boys were caught, they would face a death plenty, labor camp, or prison. Many innocent people were executed by soliders for speaking out negative things about Kim Jong II.

I don't think Kim Jong II cares much for diplomacy.
 
I bet most of you support liberalism.Ever wonder why crime is out of line than it was during the 1950s? Ever wonder why Cops cant do their Jobs like they can back in the 1950s? Ever Wonder why Russia,North Korea and China have got stronger than they did before liberalism?Face it Liberals have changed the consitutuion like cops cant force into your homes like they did in the 1950s.Cops didnt have to read your rights until the 1960s started.Cops cant Interrogate you like they did back in the 1950s.Look at that jessica lundsfield murder & rape case.The Judge threw out the confession cause that detective didnt stop when John Evander Couey asked for a Lawyer.Lets face it if John Evander Couey commited that rape and murder of a child back in the 1950s the judge wouldnt give a crap if he wanted a lawyer or not the confession still stands.And get this more and more children are born out of wetlock then they were back in the 1950s.The reason?? ITS LIBERALISM!!!
 
Cane Corso said:
No one knows what Kim Jong II wants; he is an insane leader. I'm not talking about normal leaders who care for their people, but something is wrong with his inside head. In 1990 til now, he made his people go through a bad period of famine. He does not allow any food trades and he allows a small scale of food from UN World food programme into his country. Not many people know what's going on inside North Korea and it is isolated from everyone. Yesterday, I was watching a secretive footage about two young boys who transport a few illgeal tapes out of North Korea. If both boys were caught, they would face a death plenty, labor camp, or prison. Many innocent people were executed by soliders for speaking out negative things about Kim Jong II.
Yeah, that was on CNN last night but saw that couple of months ago.. interesting insight into NK.
 
VamPyroX said:
How is it Clinton's fault?

Mr Clinton got his congressmen to limit the CIA's fund. Some of the CIA's secretive papers were stolen and they were found in China, North Korea, and other countries. I'm not sure if I believe the story, but my sister is a politic science major. She told me about it yesterday so I haven't look up anythiing about it.
 
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