New bill would make ESRB ratings legally binding

Jiro said:
so you're going to ignore these experts? are you saying what these experts are saying is bunch of nonsense?
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No, not really, I have to take as grain of salt and I don't think that experts are nonsense. We have to fix the problem - parents should start motivate, take responsible, more brave, make better decision and strong thinking about take care of child.
 
Jiro said:
parents have responsibility for their children and set the rules for them. and government has responsibility for game companies and sets the rules for them.

enough is enough. stop making more and more violent games.
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What is your solution to fix the problem? Need game control law?

In bold, I disagree with you and I love game developers to make investment with more new IP (the game franchise). They need continue to have an investment and make contribute to growing of economy. The video game does create a lot of jobs. I want to see them as evolving, so I have same say for technologies. I have a lot of support for Rockstar and they are one of my most favorite game company.
 
Foxrac said:
What is your solution to fix the problem? Need game control law?

In bold, I disagree with you and I love game developers to make investment with more new IP (the game franchise). They need continue to have an investment and make contribute to growing of economy. The video game does create a lot of jobs. I want to see them as evolving, so I have same say for technologies. I have a lot of support for Rockstar and they are one of my most favorite game company.
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1. this proposed bill
2. need to pressure game companies to focus on more non-violent games

it's not a solution but it's a great start.
 
Foxrac said:
No, not really, I have to take as grain of salt and I don't think that experts are nonsense. We have to fix the problem - parents should start motivate, take responsible, more brave, make better decision and strong thinking about take care of child.
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so kids have mommy and daddy to take responsibility and to establish rules.

how about gaming companies? who is their mommy and daddy to establish rules?
 
Jiro said:
1. this proposed bill
2. need to pressure game companies to focus on more non-violent games

it's not a solution but it's a great start.
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1) ESA said it already unconstitutional and flawed because of US Supreme Court ruling in 2011 (see updated post - http://www.alldeaf.com/current-events/109277-new-bill-would-make-esrb-ratings-legally-binding-2.html )

2) There are many nonviolent games, plenty of choice, however game companies have to make violent games that meet customer's want.
 
Jiro said:
so kids have mommy and daddy to take responsibility and to establish rules.

how about gaming companies? who is their mommy and daddy to establish rules?
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The game companies will still making games to meet customer's demand, so they will change when demand of customers are changing.

My solution - offer intervention programs to lazy, irresponsible parents and teach about how importance is time management and take care of child.

Thanks to god - my brain wasn't capacity to play video game all day, 24 hours and I know about how I take control of my body.
 
Jiro said:
that's why I deleted it. it's ridiculous and degenerative.
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I retired from Left 4 Dead because they are old game, but it is still popular in multiplayer.
 
I actually agree with the bill because it is no different from movies or beverages or whatever it is. So, it's probably better time to create more non-violent games. I think they should try thrilling action and adventure games.

Personally, I really enjoy The Walking Dead: The Game because it is so rare to see a game have emotional responses and neutral decisions those are up to players, but it is much less violence than typical shootings. Of course, there are many swears in it, but it's kinda fresh to see it is less violence because mature-rated games are typically too heavy violence and gory.

I have watched R-rated movies before, and some movies doesn't have a lot of violence or gory. So, it seems "R" means it must have a blood and fighting, but I thought it is not need to...
 
Foxrac said:
1) ESA said it already unconstitutional and flawed because of US Supreme Court ruling in 2011 (see updated post - http://www.alldeaf.com/current-events/109277-new-bill-would-make-esrb-ratings-legally-binding-2.html )

2) There are many nonviolent games, plenty of choice, however game companies have to make violent games that meet customer's want.
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Of course ESA said that. They are biased. They are also wrong. Video games are protected by the same amendments that movies and books are protected by. That amendment does not disqualify reasonable age limits. Otherwise movie restrictions would be unconstitutional.
 
Foxrac said:
What is your solution to fix the problem? Need game control law?

In bold, I disagree with you and I love game developers to make investment with more new IP (the game franchise). They need continue to have an investment and make contribute to growing of economy. The video game does create a lot of jobs. I want to see them as evolving, so I have same say for technologies. I have a lot of support for Rockstar and they are one of my most favorite game company.
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Why do you have a need for violence? Just curious.
 
Video games may have positive effects but we should not ignore their negative effects...
 
KarissaMann05 said:
I actually agree with the bill because it is no different from movies or beverages or whatever it is. So, it's probably better time to create more non-violent games. I think they should try thrilling action and adventure games.

Personally, I really enjoy The Walking Dead: The Game because it is so rare to see a game have emotional responses and neutral decisions those are up to players, but it is much less violence than typical shootings. Of course, there are many swears in it, but it's kinda fresh to see it is less violence because mature-rated games are typically too heavy violence and gory.

I have watched R-rated movies before, and some movies doesn't have a lot of violence or gory. So, it seems "R" means it must have a blood and fighting, but I thought it is not need to...
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The proposed law doesn't make encourage to have nonviolent games, so they are about legal ramification and question of ESRB rating.
 
TXgolfer said:
Of course ESA said that. They are biased. They are also wrong. Video games are protected by the same amendments that movies and books are protected by. That amendment does not disqualify reasonable age limits. Otherwise movie restrictions would be unconstitutional.
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I disagree with you, unless you need to present the source about legal ramification with movies that purchased from retail store. Jiro did point at movie theater and I didn't find it.
 
Jiro said:
I see.

well try watching violence in real life. that's how I lost taste in gaming violence.
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I already saw violence occurred in real life and it didn't change my interest with video game.
 
Foxrac said:
The proposed law doesn't make encourage to have nonviolent games, so they are about legal ramification and question of ESRB rating.
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No, you misunderstand me. I don't say that. Just in my thought, they should. For in future. Also, I said that I just agree that video games should be part of appropriate age system for objects, beverages, and food.
 
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