Negativity/Attacks/Leaving AD

And then there are those people who HATES some peeps here on AD - they will find reasons to belittle, berate and show their hate for that member in any way they choose to do so. I know, because I've been a victim myself.

It's good when we can have a serious discussion, but when someone posts, and then another follows that person, showing his/her dislike for that person in a post - that's when you gonna have a war.

No matter how you might try to word it in a way, there's always someone that think its being directed at him/her - and then go on a public forum "beating" up the first poster for "going on an attack" against the person thinking that he/she is being attacked.

I know it gets confusing, but how else do you explain this?

I still feel the best way is to keep an argument civil - make it into a discussion and NOT use the thread maker or another poster's name against them.

If you go back to several past threads, you will see what I mean... for example, and I really don't care anymore... here is an PERFECT example.
http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?t=24558

Think about this... sometimes threads are created in an effort to show something, OR to open a discussion, but may instead go awry because of some extreme dislike of a threadmaker...
http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?t=25209&page=1&pp=20

And THEN there are some people that will go completely off topic because of some imagined hurt even when it was just a GENERAL question...
http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?t=27711

I know some of you will go oh boy not that B**** DD again... but guess what? Some things have to be pointed out quite roughly - and I mean ROUGH.

Tough cookies, honey.

What comes around, goes around and bites ya back.

The point Im making here, is that there will always be attacks here on AllDeaf, members being negative about members, and people threatening to leave AD because of some slight, hurt or insult.

All I can state and Ive stated over and over ad nauseum, many times in many threads, that it's better to keep a civil tonque in your mind, do not name any one that you do not like, but keep general, and keep it on a civil footing while disagreeing with another person here.

And in any discussion, KEEP IT SIMPLE and SWEET and get your friggin point across WITHOUT insulting or demeaning another member. No flaming, no insulting, no attacking.

If you MUST insult, flame or attack another person, then members should declare OPEN WAR on you to get the point across.

Be my guest.

Go ahead, make my day.

I do really encourage to THINK AHEAD before you go on the attack against another person here on AllDeaf. Try to form your opinion before you post it, yet get your point across. Be civil, even when you do not agree with it, but agree to disagree with the thread. If necessary, use the edit button more than one time, to make sure that you do state what you want to state, without starting a flame war.

Think twice - like the old saw...Measure twice, cut once.
 
:) I have enjoyed being on Alldeaf since I joined last May!!! I love the members, and I love how each and everyone of you have expressed yourselves, and your opinions on different issues and topics. That is what makes Alldeaf so interesting. :thumb:

By reading another member's thread or posting, we're not only reading the posting, we are listening to them too. Then when we respond to them, we are responding through our own hearts, and how we feel. Everyone here on AD are all going to have different opinions about what they read, and that is what we need to respect here. We all have the right to our own opinions, and everyone here on AD has the right to receive respect from us concerning what you have to say. We always give feedback, and it may not be something agreeable, and again, when we respond, we keep in mind how the member is feeling at the moment of making his/her thread. Take that into consideration when posting, and before you post back, make sure you think first, post later, so this way it's not taken the wrong way.

Lashing out, insulting, being too hot tempered doesn't get us anywhere. It only makes the matter worse, and causes the member to leave because they feel now they have done the wrong thing, or said the wrong thing. We are all entitled to an opinion, it is your right to say what's on your mind and in your hearts. It's great that we all think differently, because as one member said, "we would all be boring to each other", and by thinking differently, and having different opinions we are open to discussion, brainstorming and at the same time helping another person.

Alex is right, why can't we get along? Yes, we can get along, because we are all humans. We have hearts, minds, souls, intelligence and most importantly we love each other as an AD family. Yes, we are going to disagree, argue hurt one another. Once that happens, patch it up and then move on. Don't stay in the past!!! It's not good.

Also, when members do start a thread that they are leaving. How do I see it? I see it as this member is "reaching out". They need this chance to vent. They're hurt, been lashed at and they feel the only resolution is for them to leave Alldeaf. Not so. I have seen so many threads started recently about members leaving. My God the postings that came back to the threader/member was nothing short of love, consideration, compassion and sympathy. So what do we do as members when we finish reading this thread? We reach right back out to this person, and pull them back in and let them know we want them to stay and why? Because this member will never find another forum as wonderful, beautiful and loving at ALLDEAF!!!!

So, anyone who is hurting now? Anyone who feels like leaving? Anyone who feels they have been lashed out at for no reason? Anyone who feels they have not been respected? Then we need to reach right out, and pull them back in, and be there with a hug, be supportive, and let them know we need them!!!!

:ily: :ily: each and everyone of you!!! I will never find a greater family as the family I belong to on Alldeaf!!!!! Thanks for reading!!!!

Now time for a :grouphug: :grouphug:
 
Shiva said:
well only thing i hate when people actually post to inform them that they are leaving due to problems, just to expect some kind of dramas to show up...I would rather leave privately and inform the owner to delete the account. IT that simple....

IF have problem, talk in pm just dont put so much dramas out in public forum and it would prevent worse things to come (usually work that way).

Rockdrummer,

I like how you are focusing on my post, but you are ignoring the post shown above. That person said it first. I was just agreeing.

You did the same thing in the "Gallaudet Protests" forum.

Got a beef with me or soemthing?
 
I just hope that we are able to get some understanding here - and yes, CODAchild, you have your group huggie from me!!

:grouphug: :grouphug:
 
hootster said:
Rockdrummer,I like how you are focusing on my post, but you are ignoring the post shown above. That person said it first. I was just agreeing. You did the same thing in the "Gallaudet Protests" forum. Got a beef with me or soemthing?
Chill bro. I got not beef with you. I was just responding to your post. And yes I can see the other posts but my opinion is the same. It's a public open forum that people can choose what they want to start a thread on. Nobody has broken any rules here so what is the problem. It's like I said before, if you don't like what the thread is about, you don't have to participate in it. It's what makes this country a great place. We all have the freedom to make the choice that suits us the best. If someone wants to start a thread on leaving. so be it. If someone doesn't like them doing that, its ok too. They are entitled to their opinions and free to voice them. There is also the freedom of choice to just stay out of the thread. Sorry if I came across as having a beef with you. I didn't mean it that way and was just voicing my opinon based on your posts. Its all good!!!
 
Cheri said:
:gpost: !! @ DreamDeaf! :ily: :gpost: !! @ CODAchild! :ily:


Yes, I agree, DreamDeaf was right to the point, it was a very good posting!!!

Thank you so much Cheri!!!! :hug: :ily:
 
DreamDeaf said:
I just hope that we are able to get some understanding here - and yes, CODAchild, you have your group huggie from me!!

:grouphug: :grouphug:


You're a sweetie DreamDeaf!!!! Thank you!!!!! :hug: :hug: :ily:
 
rockdrummer said:
Chill bro. I got not beef with you. I was just responding to your post. And yes I can see the other posts but my opinion is the same. It's a public open forum that people can choose what they want to start a thread on. Nobody has broken any rules here so what is the problem. It's like I said before, if you don't like what the thread is about, you don't have to participate in it. It's what makes this country a great place. We all have the freedom to make the choice that suits us the best. If someone wants to start a thread on leaving. so be it. If someone doesn't like them doing that, its ok too. They are entitled to their opinions and free to voice them. There is also the freedom of choice to just stay out of the thread. Sorry if I came across as having a beef with you. I didn't mean it that way and was just voicing my opinon based on your posts. Its all good!!!

Sorry for thinking that you had a beef with me.

I wasnt getting defensive cuz you disagreed with me. I knew that some people would disagree with me. I was getting defensive cuz I thought you were singling me out when other people had the same opinion as I did. Hence, the beef part.

I know that this is an open forum. I dont deny that.

If people want to open a thread like that, whatever floats their boats. I m not giong to stop them.

However, you have to remember that I m entitled to an opinion of my own just as much as you and others are. If I think those threads are a waste of time, I ll say it whether anyone agrees with me or not.

Btw, I DO skip those threads. I stopped reading those threads after a while cuz they were getting annoying.

Again, sorry for the misunderstanings.
 
Different opinions are cool to me, but expressing them rudely is not. IMO. :)
 
DreamDeaf said:
And then there are those people who HATES some peeps here on AD - they will find reasons to belittle, berate and show their hate for that member in any way they choose to do so. I know, because I've been a victim myself.
Yeah, this happened when I was talking about problems with interpreters...one of them here labeled me a bigot when I didn't even say all interpreters were bad.

DreamDeaf said:
It's good when we can have a serious discussion, but when someone posts, and then another follows that person, showing his/her dislike for that person in a post - that's when you gonna have a war.
Of course. On some threads, I get a poster who thinks I'm an idiot because I am a hearing person who s/he thinks is against all cochlear implants. Then I have to keep RE-posting that I am NOT against cochlear implants themselves nor am I against people who use them (and I'm even HAPPY if it works for that person). I'm against the kind of marketing of them directed to parents. I hope you get my point here. ;)

DreamDeaf said:
No matter how you might try to word it in a way, there's always someone that think its being directed at him/her - and then go on a public forum "beating" up the first poster for "going on an attack" against the person thinking that he/she is being attacked.
I've seen this many times. I try to pick apart rather than insult people, but some don't see it that way. :roll:

DreamDeaf said:
I know it gets confusing, but how else do you explain this?
[...]
I still feel the best way is to keep an argument civil - make it into a discussion and NOT use the thread maker or another poster's name against them...
Good idea.
 
Liza said:
Different opinions are cool to me, but expressing them rudely is not. IMO. :)
:stupid: (call me stupid..but I think that hits the NAIL right on the HEAD!)
 
Boult said:
If you really want to ignore a person then use the ignore feature in user cp. I notice they fail to use that often. I have put few on ignore list already..

Cool, I put ignorant people on my ignore list too :stupid:
 
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