Most issue you're concern in political?

Choice one and rant then.

  • HEALTH, live and see bright

    Votes: 10 25.0%
  • EDUCATION, control me to make smart please

    Votes: 4 10.0%
  • GUN, fear or not fear?

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, more rainbow

    Votes: 4 10.0%
  • ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTION, get out

    Votes: 5 12.5%
  • TAX, spend bore me

    Votes: 5 12.5%
  • OTHER, tell me and rant more

    Votes: 12 30.0%

  • Total voters
    40
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I am back and speechless after saw those posts here...

I cannot understand why you provided the link to throw my face here for since I already stated in my first post to blame taxes to cause unemployment rate. I tried to explain in my next post that social system has nothing do with tax issues when someone claim that social system is the blame which is not. After read those link, I know that I am right. It´s not everything what the link says between taxes and social system.

Now I can see that you refused to accept my knowledge when I ask you wait until I am back and try to explain the difference between taxes and social system. That´s what you want to beleive is fine... I don´t bother to say anything further.
 
I didn't realize that I needed your permission to post.
 
I didn't realize that I needed your permission to post.

Oh I am sorry that you interpret my post in the wrong way.

It show that you can´t accept my knowledge, that´s all.

You really do not need link because I already stated in my first post about taxes and unemployment rate... but you continue to blame social system which is not. I told you that I am trying to explain you the difference when I am back. You choose to not accept my knowledge. Why should I say anything further then?
 
The issues that concern me are:

1. Animal research. I think it should be banned as it costs a lot of money and the money comes from health and providing the disabled with services which is sadly lacking at the moment. Plus Animal research is very cruel to the animals.

2. Pollution and Global warming. Already been mentioned but it's something that concerns me greatly.

3. Substidised Factory farming. Not only does factory farming cause global warming and is increadably cruel but it is also substidised by the government. :pissed:

4. Warfare: It costs the government a lot to send troops to Iraq and it's very bad as many people here in Britian did not want to go to war in the first place.

5. Crappy health care. Because all the money goes into torturing animals instead of cutting down waiting lists. My mum was put on waiting lists even when she had cancer.

6. Crappy transport. There needs to be better public transport as it's overpriced at the moment so people use their cars in stead and that causes more pollution.

7. World poverty. The world banks screw poor people in 3rd world countries. Also many firms move to 3rd world countries so they can exploit the people there who will work for less money and lower standards. So the 3rd world try to move to the west. I don't blame them. It's only human after all. Plus some of them have to leave because they are being persicuted in their own countries.
 
The issues that concern me are:

1. Animal research. I think it should be banned as it costs a lot of money and the money comes from health and providing the disabled with services which is sadly lacking at the moment. Plus Animal research is very cruel to the animals.

2. Pollution and Global warming. Already been mentioned but it's something that concerns me greatly.

3. Substidised Factory farming. Not only does factory farming cause global warming and is increadably cruel but it is also substidised by the government. :pissed:

4. Warfare: It costs the government a lot to send troops to Iraq and it's very bad as many people here in Britian did not want to go to war in the first place.

5. Crappy health care. Because all the money goes into torturing animals instead of cutting down waiting lists. My mum was put on waiting lists even when she had cancer.

6. Crappy transport. There needs to be better public transport as it's overpriced at the moment so people use their cars in stead and that causes more pollution.

7. World poverty. The world banks screw poor people in 3rd world countries. Also many firms move to 3rd world countries so they can exploit the people there who will work for less money and lower standards. So the 3rd world try to move to the west. I don't blame them. It's only human after all. Plus some of them have to leave because they are being persicuted in their own countries.

USA isn't 3rd world country in general.

Some part of USA are so.
 
Oh I am sorry that you interpret my post in the wrong way.

It show that you can´t accept my knowledge, that´s all.
What makes your "knowledge" so special and exempt from debate? I question everyone's input, and everyone should question mine. If I got upset about all the posters who don't "accept my knowledge" I'd be dead of a stroke by now.

You really do not need link because I already stated in my first post about taxes and unemployment rate... but you continue to blame social system which is not.
That's exactly why I posted the link; the expert explained it in more detail than I could. That link supported my claim that the increase in taxes was due to an increase in the need to support benefits that are expected by people in a socialistic society, or what is sometimes called a "nanny state".

Also, I wanted to show that it's not just a German or European problem. If the USA tries to follow the Euro way, then we could possibly face the same problems down the road.

I told you that I am trying to explain you the difference when I am back. You choose to not accept my knowledge. Why should I say anything further then?
Just because I posted my supporting data doesn't mean you can't post your supporting data or opinion.
 
What makes your "knowledge" so special and exempt from debate? I question everyone's input, and everyone should question mine. If I got upset about all the posters who don't "accept my knowledge" I'd be dead of a stroke by now.

1. This thread is not under Debate Section.
2. I live here in Germany and know a lot about the difference between taxes and social system.


That's exactly why I posted the link; the expert explained it in more detail than I could. That link supported my claim that the increase in taxes was due to an increase in the need to support benefits that are expected by people in a socialistic society, or what is sometimes called a "nanny state".

No, this link didn´t say everything but those link support my claim about taxes and unemployment what I stated in my first post.

Also, I wanted to show that it's not just a German or European problem. If the USA tries to follow the Euro way, then we could possibly face the same problems down the road.

If Americans follow the example of European Social System then they will have no problem to have any health treatments, children´s welfare and interest, etc. They won´t end homeless when they are out of work, etc. and more list....

Just because I posted my supporting data doesn't mean you can't post your supporting data or opinion.

Websites didn´t tell everything than the people know in their real life. That´s fine when you support those link which you thought it tell you everything than me. I do not expect you to beleive me but it would be nice when we show respect each other about our countries like what I show my feeling and respect to ADers´s posts here where the creator created "Most issue you´re concern in political". I would not throw ADers´s face with link to prove them that I am right and they are wrong but show my respect and feeling for them because it´s them who have experience and feeling in real life than websites. It´s about concern and feeling.
 

Well there is no way for me to doubting about the global warmings. I believe those people who doubt the global warming are very stupid.

When I was little, I still remember the temperature of summer was always 75-85, but when I was in middle school it happened to be 85-90, then high school became 90-95, and today it ended up as 90-100 in Washington. Everyone would think Washington is very cool place during summer, but NO. It's not anymore. It is now a dry and hot, include humidity during summer with about 90-100 temperature. Everyone sweats and even can't go outside because too hot in Washington during the summer, just like Texas.

Global Warming is very serious issue today, those doubting Global Warming is a old news.

I am go for Green Party, Grassroots Party, or Greenpeace!
 
If Americans follow the example of European Social System then they will have no problem to have any health treatments, children´s welfare and interest, etc. They won´t end homeless when they are out of work, etc. and more list....
Oh, sure. We can have high unemployment, high taxes, lack of free enterprise, nanny government, and robotic citizens, just like Euros. That's a wonderful goal. :roll:

No thanks.


Websites didn´t tell everything than the people know in their real life.
If that's true, why do you post so many googled links? I don't complain about you posting lots of links about American life. What's the big deal?

Our personal experiences show the microcosm and details of real life. Links with statistics and facts show the big picture. Personal experiences and factual links can work together, supporting each other. They both have value.

... the creator created "Most issue you´re concern in political". ..
OK. I'm concerned that our politicians are being swayed to follow too many European ways, and they're forgetting or ignoring the American way. That's my concern.
 
Oh, sure. We can have high unemployment, high taxes, lack of free enterprise, nanny government, and robotic citizens, just like Euros. That's a wonderful goal. :roll:

No thanks.



If that's true, why do you post so many googled links? I don't complain about you posting lots of links about American life. What's the big deal?

Our personal experiences show the microcosm and details of real life. Links with statistics and facts show the big picture. Personal experiences and factual links can work together, supporting each other. They both have value.


OK. I'm concerned that our politicians are being swayed to follow too many European ways, and they're forgetting or ignoring the American way. That's my concern.

Also raise more gas prices too. :lol:
 
Well there is no way for me to doubting about the global warmings. I believe those people who doubt the global warming are very stupid.

When I was little, I still remember the temperature of summer was always 75-85, but when I was in middle school it happened to be 85-90, then high school became 90-95, and today it ended up as 90-100 in Washington. Everyone would think Washington is very cool place during summer, but NO. It's not anymore. It is now a dry and hot, include humidity during summer with about 90-100 temperature. Everyone sweats and even can't go outside because too hot in Washington during the summer, just like Texas.

Global Warming is very serious issue today, those doubting Global Warming is a old news.

I am go for Green Party, Grassroots Party, or Greenpeace!

What's global warming in your signature?

Is it bad? how would kill people?
 
In South Carolina, we're enjoying the longest, coolest spring in many years. :)

I could never support the Green Party because they support eugenics.
...As in America, Hitler's eugenics were merely one aspect of a larger "Green" theme--a theme that continues, of course, as the Red/Green alliance of today. The Nazis were probably the first major political party in the Western world to have a thoroughgoing "Green" agenda.
Eugenics and the Left
 
Oh, sure. We can have high unemployment, high taxes, lack of free enterprise, nanny government, and robotic citizens, just like Euros. That's a wonderful goal. :roll:

No thanks.

Then I feel sorry for children and homeless and also suffer health care as well.

You already have over 5% unemployment rate in America when therer'e no social system... :) where it come from? Of course TAX!!!!!!!! :)

I am really glad that I have social system here.


If that's true, why do you post so many googled links? I don't complain about you posting lots of links about American life. What's the big deal?

But I am not like you who throw the link to prove you wrong. I don't demand you to prove me like some ADers did but respect your post. I only give the links when the ADers request to or link at general debate threads like relgions, CI, polities, abortion etc.


Our personal experiences show the microcosm and details of real life. Links with statistics and facts show the big picture. Personal experiences and factual links can work together, supporting each other. They both have value.

Okay, this is your choice... I only beleive the people who experienced in real life. I don't ask anyone to prove me with source/link but respect their posts. I don't throw link on their faces to prove them wrong but suggest them to visit google if they want to. I link to show them what I know about my country.

OK. I'm concerned that our politicians are being swayed to follow too many European ways, and they're forgetting or ignoring the American way. That's my concern.

Okay, I respect your concern but I understand where Americans come from.

My only concern is high employment rate and taxes, that's all.
 
I could never support the Green Party because they support eugenics.

:lol: Its about environment-friendly..., not Nazi... You keep on talk about Nazi in several threads... It look like that Nazi is your favorite word or what...
 
My only concern is high employment rate and taxes, that's all.[/COLOR]

When you have a government system that pays for people to live even if they don't work, it is doing a few things:

1. It's taxing the money from those who produce and giving the product of their work to someone who didn't earn it. (This is why taxes are high.)

2. It's sending the message to those who don't want more than the government gives that they need not actually work for themselves, which means they don't produce, which means they're not taxed much, which means taxes on others will have to be raised to cover what these people on the government teat use up.

3. It's essentially forcing one person to pay someone else's bills before they pay their own. Because money is taken from one's paycheck before they even see it, and used for other people, you're essentially forcing people to work for the benefit of others before they work for themselves. That's not right. (It's almost a form of covert slavery, if you think about it. What else is forcing someone--at the threat of government penalty--to work for someone else's ends and not your own?)

So, not only does socialism not work in the long run--because while it claims to make everyone equal it makes them a very LOW quality of equal as more people choose not to produce--since they need not--but socialism also isn't moral. It's not moral to do through the government what one person can't do morally.

Let me put it this way. The government is supposed to get its authority from the consent of the people. The government, therefore, should have no more rights than any one person. If you're hungry, and you have no food and no money for food, it would be fine to ASK others to help you, to feed you. But it would NOT be right--it would be immoral--for you to take a gun, walk up to your neighbor's house, knock on the door, and when he answers say "give me food, or I will hurt you." Right? I mean, you wouldn't do that. You wouldn't say "give me money for my rent, or I will shoot you." Right?

But what you want is someone else to do that FOR a person who needs rent or food. You want the government to go to your neighbor and use the threat of GOVERNMENT force to get money from him to give to someone else. How is that more moral? Because people vote for it? What if everyone in your neighborhood decided that you don't need your computer, and they come in, take it, sell it, and use the money for someone who they think needs it more than you? Is that right? Is it immoral when a neighborhood does it, but not when a government does the same thing?

And if you say government doesn't threaten people with a gun--really they do. Almost any act of government is ultimately an act of force.

Say you don't pay your taxes. What happens? They fine you. What happens if you don't pay the fines? They arrest you. What happens if you don't want to be arrested? They force you to go to jail. What happens if you try to escape? Ultimately, this is what the gov't does--it forces people to follow laws. So, we have to be careful what should and shouldn't be a law, don't we?

Socialism advocates we redistribute wealth. It claims that the state owns the product of people's labor--not the individual. That, to me, is immoral.

Your work--whatever work you do that someone pays for--is the result of you spending TIME from your life. Time you don't get back. If you spend your time to make money, and then buy a car, and I STEAL your car, I've stolen TIME from you, because now you have to work again, make more money, and replace your car. I took a portion of your life you can't get back--the time you invested to earn the money to buy your car. Even if you have insurance that replaces it--someone's time is going to replace that car, and I've stolen it. I've stolen a part of your life. That's what theft is. That's why I'm against ANYONE stealing--be it a person, or the government.

We should help people. We should donate time and money to food and clothe those who can't. But that should be of our free choice, not at the point of a gun--whether its the gun of a thug or a government.

Whether your system works or not (and it doesn't work well) doesn't really matter. The system that would threaten people to work for someone else and not themselves is not a moral system. It's the same thing that slavesmasters do to slaves.
 
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