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Byrdie714 said:
Jiro's quote sums it up:



Next thing you know--"professionals" will come on AD and labels us AD addicts and prescribe medication for us! :lol:
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BiNgO !
 
Byrdie714 said:
Not necessairly as there has been situations where an individual that suffers from bi-polar and is on medication do lash out and attack.
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i'm not denying that. what i'm saying is that the incidence of manic episodes varies from person to person. just because someone has a single manic episode doesn't necessarily mean they will experience another.

by the way, i'm fully aware of the fact that there are bipolars who lash out while on meds. i'm one of them. i rapid cycle on an hourly basis and it is known that rapid cycling is very difficult to treat. my pdoc has told me not to expect my rapid cycling to ever go away while on meds since it can never be completely eliminated.
 
Byrdie714 said:
Not necessairly as there has been situations where an individual that suffers from bi-polar and is on medication do lash out and attack.
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research has proven that a combination of therapy and meds is the most effective treatment protocol for bipolar.
 
Byrdie714 said:
Guess you can't take a joke eh?

Oh...that's right--your avatar has warned us that the next mood swing is in 6 minutes. :roll:
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that's right, i can't -- not when it comes to something as serious as diagnosing mental illness. so sue me.

as for my avatar, it describes me perfectly which is why i have it there in the first place. if you want to roll your eyes at my avatar, be my guest. it's a free country and i won't take it personally.
 
Byrdie714 said:
Guess you can't take a joke eh?

Oh...that's right--your avatar has warned us that the next mood swing is in 6 minutes. :roll:
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oh you! behave :cool2:
 
Statistics have stated that 3 out of 200 people suffer Bipolar.

That's only 0.015% of the population.....
 
Overdiagnosis of Bipolar Disorder Among Substance Use Disorder Inpatients With Mood Instability.
Goldberg JF, Garno JL, Callahan AM, Kearns DL, Kerner B, Ackerman SH.

From the Department of Psychiatry, Mount Sinai School of Medicine, New York, N.Y., USA. Joseph.goldberg@mssm.edu.

BACKGROUND: Among substance use disorder (SUD) patients, mood instability and high-risk behaviors may suggest the presence of bipolar disorder. However, active substance abuse impedes efforts to diagnose bipolar illness validly in patients with mood complaints. METHOD: The authors retrospectively reviewed records for 85 adults admitted sequentially over a 1-year period (August 1, 2005, to July 31, 2006) to a private inpatient dual-diagnosis unit for substance abuse/dependence and mood disorders. A senior research psychiatrist conducted diagnostic interviews based on DSM-IV criteria to ascertain current and lifetime manic or hypomanic episodes during abstinent periods. RESULTS: Only 33% of subjects with suspected bipolar diagnoses (28/85) met DSM-IV criteria for bipolar I or II disorder. DSM-IV bipolar patients were significantly older (p = .029) and more likely to have made past suicide attempts (p = .027), abused fewer substances (p = .027), and were less likely to abuse cocaine (p < .001) than those failing to meet DSM-IV criteria. Inability to affirm bipolar diagnoses most often resulted from insufficient DSM-IV "B" symptoms associated with mania or hypomania (55% or 45/82), inability to identify abstinent periods for assessing mood symptoms (36%, 29/81), and inadequate durations of manic/hypomanic symptoms for DSM-IV syndromic criteria (12%, 10/84). Patients not meeting DSM-IV criteria were most often presumed to have bipolar disorder solely on the basis of the presence of mood instability, although this feature held little predictive value for DSM-IV bipolar diagnoses. CONCLUSIONS: Many patients with active SUDs who are diagnosed in the community with bipolar disorder may not actually meet DSM-IV criteria for bipolar I or II disorder. Caution must be exercised when attempting to diagnose such patients, particularly when mood instability or cocaine use is present.
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Overdiagnosis of Bipolar Disorder Among Substance ...[J Clin Psychiatry. 2009] - PubMed Result

Overdiagnosis of bipolar disorder may lead to unnecessary use of medications and the risk of harmful side effects, noted lead author Dr. Mark Zimmerman, director of outpatient psychiatry at Rhode Island Hospital and an associate professor of psychiatry and human behavior at Brown University.

"Clinicians are inclined to diagnose disorders that they feel more comfortable treating. We hypothesize that the increased availability of medications that have been approved for the treatment of bipolar disorder might be influencing clinicians who are unsure whether or not a patient has bipolar disorder or borderline personality disorder to err on the side of diagnosing the disorder that is medication responsive," Zimmerman said in a prepared statement.
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Bipolar Disorder Might Be Overdiagnosed - Mental Health Disorders on MedicineNet.com

Mark Zimmerman, of the Rhode Island Hospital and Brown University, has been studying the way that Bi-polar Disorder is diagnosed for more than a decade. He states that until about 6 years ago the disorder was typically under-diagnosed, when he began to see a reversal in diagnostic trends. He undertook to look at 145 patients who volunteered to have their diagnosis reviewed and found that, while many showed signs and symptoms that placed them on the depression spectrum, more than half did not meet the criteria for Bi-polar, despite that diagnosis.
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The Overdiagnosis of Bi-Polar Disorder | Psychology Today Blogs

These are just a few sources on the subject of over diagnosis of bi-polar disorder.

Taking too many prescribed medications can mimic the disorder too.
 
Hear Again said:
look it up on google, medline, a similar journal or any website having to do with bipolar disorder. i don't have time or the desire to do that for you.
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Then you can't stand by your opinion. Simple as that. :)
 
Byrdie714 said:
Statistics have stated that 3 out of 200 people suffer Bipolar.

That's only 0.015% of the population.....
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actually, the statistic is more like 2% of the population which equates to 5.7 million u.s. adults.

your point is?

by the way, your indication that it "only affects 0.015% of the population" minimizes the significance of this disorder. just because 2% of the population suffers from bipolar doesn't mean that measures shouldn't be taken to find a cure.
 
Hear Again said:
actually, the statistic is more like 2% of the population which equates to 5.7 million u.s. adults.

your point is?

by the way, your indication that it "only affects 0.015% of the population" minimizes the significance of this disorder. just because 2% of the population suffers from bipolar doesn't mean that measures shouldn't be taken to find a cure.
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Is Bipolar Affective Disorder a rare condition? In the general population, approximately 3 people out of every 200 people have Bipolar Affective Disorder. Bipolar II Disorder occurs less frequently than Bipolar I. Between one and two million Americans suffer from Bipolar Affective Disorder.
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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) about Bipolar Affective Disorder

I showed you mine--where's yours stating that it's 2%?
 
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As I'm on sidekick, I'm closing up my thread for a clean up later as it had gone offtopic.
 
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