Reba said:
Yes, America is the great "melting pot". For over 300 years, that melting pot blended people of all backgrounds, nationalities, religions, colors, languages, and cultures, into AMERICANS. The problem now is, immigrants into America no longer want to become AMERICANS. They want America to adjust to their languages and cultures.
When my great, great grandfather arrived from Portugal, he learned to speak English. He married an American woman from Nova Scotia. When their son was born, he gave him an "American" first name. My gggrandfather was not ashamed of his Portuguese heritage. In fact, he wrote a book about Portugal, became a translator of Portuguese for other immigrants, and eventually became a consul to Portugal, and a vice consul to Brazil (Portuguese-speaking nation).
I grew up in a neighborhood of first and second generation Italians and Greeks. They learned English, worked hard, and became AMERICANS. They didn't expect other people to learn their language and customs.
In high school, my best friend's parents were from Holland. They spoke English.
When I was in the Navy, many of my shipmates and their wives were from the Phillipines. They spoke English at work and in public.
If I were to move to another country, I would expect to learn the language and culture of that country. That is natural. Why can't we expect that of people who move to the United States?
What has happened? Has the fire of love for America gone out under the melting pot?
I don't mind about melting pot (will explain briefly about that one below) but you are right about learning the languages.. I have a issue about it myself. If these people want to move in our country, fine but they MUST learn our language or else. I am lucky enough that Swedish people can speak/write english (I would say approx 90% of them can).. but if they couldn't, I would take some courses or something to learn how to write swedish language to communicate with them. Actually other countries have the same problem with Americans' attitude toward their languages when they visit their countries... These people
included Americans have zero respect for each other's cultures & languages.
Ok about melting pot... I still don't understand why people complain about melting pot. Look, who lives in 'America' first?
Native Americans.
Not us. Honestly, whoever complain about 'melting pot' made me sick and angry. Native Americans LIVES in this country first before pilgrims invaded, massacred and raped Native Americans. Don't anyone dare to complain about 'melting pot' issue. If anyone want to complain about 'melting pot' then fine, move back to Europe where these people belong to in first place. It is miracle enough that God didn't punish these people for that crap talks or is he plan to? Sorry but I sure as hell hope it will be latter one.
Now I am curious about language... why not we respect this country's original language a.k.a. Native American language? Why are we speaking english right now while complain about mexicans or whoever move in and demand to have fair access when americans massacred Native Americans and destroyed their cultures & language? That's where I fail to understand why people kept contradicting themselves 24/7 about that one.
Like it or not, Native Americans are the
first people who live in America. If we, americans want to talk about respect, show the respect for Native Americans first before anyone can babbling nonsense about langauges & cultures. I will say again, it is miracle that God didn't punish us for that... or it is highly probable that he plan to.
ravensteve, as usual, you babbled nonsense about homosexuality, liberals, etc etc.. There are higher AIDS rate in heterosexuals than homosexuals, I already posted the hard datas and articles... where is yours? You always babbled 24/7 without any evidences or facts to back your statements up. Good try but no cigar for you, bub.
I soon will post the new thought-provoking topic in On-topic Debates or this General Chat forum which will 'nuke' this nonsense topic to oblivion. Naturally, I will post the hard datas or articles to back me up. I will do that on Sunday when I go to the church for first time since... my parents' divorce? I couldn't remember. There is a well-known but obscure priest (named Reverend Goodhand, I believe..) who will come to give the sermon and preach at the church 50 or so miles away from my place. I heard lot about him so I want to go and see for myself. If I think what he plan to say, it definitely will aid my new thought-provoking topic (that's why I plan to post on Sunday right after his preach. He have been preach at different churches for 60 years (he's 80's) and very good friend with Mother Theresa.
Taylor said:
Good post Reba. I did some traveling over the past 20 hours or so and just got back. I stopped into a regular fast food restaurant to grab breakfast on the road. One thing that caught my attention was everything posted on the wall of the restaurant was in Spanish....The menu was in english, but everything on the walls..from the bulletin board to the prizes that come with certain meals to advertisements were all in Spanish. Sometimes its easy to forget we live in America. It seems to me that America is losing its culture. While I'm open to other cultures joining ours, I'm realizing that the culture I grew up with in this region is no longer my culture
I am even more sad that America's first language, Native Americans are destorying and forgetting. I don't really care about 'our' culture until we restore the country back to Native Americans
then I can talk and discuss concerning about our culture but not this time. Also our culture is still alive and well in Europe anyway.
Regards,
Magatsu