Marijuana VS Alcohol debates

jillio said:
Yes, it is a lifelong battle. Your cousin that has managed to stay sober for that long deserves admiration.
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I cant imagine how hard it must be for her. I have never been addicted to any kind of drugs so I dont know what it is like. *shudders*
 
Pepsi said:
He don't want too.Thanks for saying you hope it will work out.But it's over it has been for a very long time.
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I am really sorry. U are welcome to come to Baltimore and hang out with me if u need time away for a day or so. :hug:
 
PuyoPiyo said:
I mean when a heavy alcoholism or heavy pothead was using it while they are at home after work, like my brother always get drunk after finish working.
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That's something I don't understand.

A lot of my friends who drink... only drink occasionally. They don't always buy beer to drink at home every night. When I come over to visit, he will share a bottle or two with me while we sit and talk and watch movies or play games. When we go out to dinner or a bar, we'll have a drink or two. They don't come home, go straight to their fridges, and start drinking the rest of the night away as if it's more important than everything else.

I do have a few friends who are serious alcoholics... so bad that it isn't funny. It has resulted in nearly burning down apartments, getting in serious accidents, and going to the hospital several times. Even after these things happened, they don't change... they just drink more and more.

That's one of the reasons why I don't talk to them much any more. Whenever I see them, drinking is the only thing they ever talk about. "Hey man! How are you? We should go to the bar to drink!" "Yo, what's up? I'm having a party on Friday. Let's play beer pong!" "Hey, you graduated? Cool, this calls for gulping down a bottle of vodka!"

Even if I try to bring up something different, they go back to talking about alcohol. "Hey, there's a good OC movie this week. Wanna see it?" "Umm... I guess. Let's play beer pong afterwards!" "I'm going to meet my friend for dinner. Wanna join us?" "I dunno, will there be beer?" "I'm going to a party. We're gonna play Monopoly and watch a couple movies." "Cool, I'll bring the beer!"
 
VamPyroX said:
That's something I don't understand.

A lot of my friends who drink... only drink occasionally. They don't always buy beer to drink at home every night. When I come over to visit, he will share a bottle or two with me while we sit and talk and watch movies or play games. When we go out to dinner or a bar, we'll have a drink or two. They don't come home, go straight to their fridges, and start drinking the rest of the night away as if it's more important than everything else.

I do have a few friends who are serious alcoholics... so bad that it isn't funny. It has resulted in nearly burning down apartments, getting in serious accidents, and going to the hospital several times. Even after these things happened, they don't change... they just drink more and more.

That's one of the reasons why I don't talk to them much any more. Whenever I see them, drinking is the only thing they ever talk about. "Hey man! How are you? We should go to the bar to drink!" "Yo, what's up? I'm having a party on Friday. Let's play beer pong!" "Hey, you graduated? Cool, this calls for gulping down a bottle of vodka!"

Even if I try to bring up something different, they go back to talking about alcohol. "Hey, there's a good OC movie this week. Wanna see it?" "Umm... I guess. Let's play beer pong afterwards!" "I'm going to meet my friend for dinner. Wanna join us?" "I dunno, will there be beer?" "I'm going to a party. We're gonna play Monopoly and watch a couple movies." "Cool, I'll bring the beer!"
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Well my brother don't always talk about the alcohol all the times like those people you know, he just come home from working, sit on the couch and watch TV, also have a beer. This is a relaxing because he was tired from working alot, and he was looking for anything that make him relax and have good time. Nothing wrong about it as long as he is under control of himself.
 
PuyoPiyo said:
Well my brother don't always talk about the alcohol all the times like those people you know, he just come home from working, sit on the couch and watch TV, also have a beer. This is a relaxing because he was tired from working alot, and he was looking for anything that make him relax and have good time. Nothing wrong about it as long as he is under control of himself.
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Under control? Good. If you asked him to not drink for a day, would he?
 
VamPyroX said:
Under control? Good. If you asked him to not drink for a day, would he?
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Why would I? You mean like if I was having a problem with someone who was drunk, or something? If so, I am sure he will understand and not drink front of me. He never drink front of my grandpa who have really terrible alcohol abuse and destroy his liver in the past. It's all about respect thing :)
 
"Everything in moderation" is a motto often said.

When consumed in moderation, marijuana and alcohol do not cause any grave consequence(s) to the user and his/her community.

The puritan message that the American public is, frequently, given is: moderation is not acceptable. You are restricted to a "black and white" scenario, removing all trace of humanism.

Everything in moderation. Anything else is excessive - including abstinence.
 
Wokamuka said:
"Everything in moderation" is a motto often said.

When consumed in moderation, marijuana and alcohol do not cause any grave consequence(s) to the user and his/her community.

The puritan message that the American public is, frequently, given is: moderation is not acceptable. You are restricted to a "black and white" scenario, removing all trace of humanism.

Everything in moderation. Anything else is excessive - including abstinence.
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:lol: :lol:
 
Wokamuka said:
"Everything in moderation" is a motto often said.

When consumed in moderation, marijuana and alcohol do not cause any grave consequence(s) to the user and his/her community.

The puritan message that the American public is, frequently, given is: moderation is not acceptable. You are restricted to a "black and white" scenario, removing all trace of humanism.

Everything in moderation. Anything else is excessive - including abstinence.[/QUOTE]


That I will be in favor of!!! :giggle:
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Pepsi said:
He don't want too.Thanks for saying you hope it will work out.But it's over it has been for a very long time.
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Unfortunately, until he decides that he has a problem and wants to do something about it, there isn't much that family and friends can do to help him.
 
Love is a beautiful thing. Love is not an excuse to give nor is it a hope that things will get better. Love is not a contract; Love is a feeling.

I was in a relationship where an addiction was chosen over me. It hurts every day (when in the relationship) and it hurts when you sympathize. You try to rationalize and you try to have hope. Ultimately, you start to die inside, setting aside your life, your dreams, and your strengths because you are human; you love.

Girlfriend, it's time that you started thinking about your own quality of life. Is this what you want? Is this what you deserve? Is this what your Supreme Being wanted for you?

You (and the other one) need a wake-up call and start living!

That's all I have to say about that.
- Forrest Gump
 
jillio said:
Methadone is actually more addictive than heroin is. I'm sure that she did try very hard, but her disease was stronger. Her story proves that addiction is not a choice someone makes. Their body makes that choice for them. It is a disease, and far too often, it is a fatal disease.
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*nodding, very true*
 
jillio said:
That is exactly why we need to change the laws regarding marijuana. Look at the Netherlands for an example. Legalization has not increased drug use. It simply stopped making criminals out of people who were doing nothing wrong except smoking a little weed.
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Yes it make sense...

The people knows how to limit if they want to drink and smoking.

I find interesting why tabacoo and alcohol are legal, not kind of weeds. I am still open mind on this issues...
 
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