Marijuana VS Alcohol debates

:gpost: I prefer to pick alcohol in moderately way because it´s a legal. I would lost everything for ignore the law and make an illegal. It will teachs the children to think it´s okay to do illegal that´s why I prefer to not do that...

That is exactly why we need to change the laws regarding marijuana. Look at the Netherlands for an example. Legalization has not increased drug use. It simply stopped making criminals out of people who were doing nothing wrong except smoking a little weed.
 
I have used pot in the past from the age 13 to age 20. I quit cold turkey after my cousin died in a freak accident. She was riding in with her date's truck and was sleeping while high on pot. She also was drinking. the truck went under the semi truck killed her instantly. Ever since that day I quit pot because I didnt want to sleep and what if it happen to me?

When i was using pot, I slept alots as it help lessen the pains of my migraine headaches. I was not hooked to it. I didnt go and look for it. I only use it every weekend for fun and when i have the headaches.

I was not addicted to it. Nothing. I was drinking too but I don't do that anymore as I am older. I am not addicted to alcohols.

Some people have the addiction to where they cant live without pots or alcohols. It is in their mind. I must have it. so that is the problem.

If i am sick with a horrible disease. I would go back and use pots in moderation to help the pains.

Also I like to mention that when i first tried pot.. i liek the feeling due to high and floating.. till right before i quit using pot. they add the crack in the pot and lead to paranoid and etc. I didnt like it.. that is another reason why I quit due to that.

Now I do drink.. but once in a while.. like occasion like holiday or one time a month just relaxing.. :)


There is actually a drug prescribed for people who are getting chemo-therapy for cancer than has marijuana in it. It is called marinol. So, the drug companies are saying, "You can't go out and buy a joint in its natural form for $5.00 to ease your pain and nausea. But we will make a medicine in the laboratory that has marijuana in it, and charge you 150.00 for the prescription." So in effect,they admit that it is useful for medical treatment, but they are manipulating the situation so that already rich drug companies make the money from its sale. Its the old Golden Rule: them that has the gold, makes the rules. I think it should be illegal for the drug company to make 200% profit on something that can be purchased in a natural state for a minimal amount of money!
 
There is actually a drug prescribed for people who are getting chemo-therapy for cancer than has marijuana in it. It is called marinol. So, the drug companies are saying, "You can't go out and buy a joint in its natural form for $5.00 to ease your pain and nausea. But we will make a medicine in the laboratory that has marijuana in it, and charge you 150.00 for the prescription." So in effect,they admit that it is useful for medical treatment, but they are manipulating the situation so that already rich drug companies make the money from its sale. Its the old Golden Rule: them that has the gold, makes the rules. I think it should be illegal for the drug company to make 200% profit on something that can be purchased in a natural state for a minimal amount of money!

And that drug is perfectly legal and you can show prescription of it when you are getting drug tested.

The effects of marinol is the same as the weed, only it lasts longer. :)
 
And that drug is perfectly legal and you can show prescription of it when you are getting drug tested.

The effects of marinol is the same as the weed, only it lasts longer. :)

Lasts longer, and contributes to the already outrageous wealth of the drug companies.:rl:
 

First of all, I want to :ty: you for share your experience. It´s good to know that you know how to limit with your strong willing.

I would say that your experience is bit opposite to my sister. I have my experience, too is my sister. She addict to the drugs until she ends her life to methadone at 2 years ago. I posted the story about her on my threads.

http://www.alldeaf.com/general-chat/21029-my-sister-drugs-paraphernalia-crack-cocain.html

http://www.alldeaf.com/pictures-videos/29956-memorial-my-sister-childhood-pictures-artwork.html

http://www.alldeaf.com/general-chat/28655-send-condolences-liebling.html

The reason is I created the threads is because I want the people aware about the drug issues.

My sister started smoke tabacoo when she was 9 years old until she tried smoking pot (including marijuana) when she just had 3rd child. Her partner (now ex) knows how to limit himself when he want to smoke kind of weeds. Of course he taught my sister to smoke kind of weeds including marijuna... My sister said to me & my hubby to try it but we refused... They tried to convince us that smoking weeds is much better than smoking tabacoo. She started to addict more and more after tried kind of weeds... and then alcohol. She thought alcohol helps her to get drugs off of her mind but it doesn´t work. Read further at links of my threads...... She have no problem with alcohol but severe problem to rid of drugs... She tried dozen of times to be clean but it doesn´t work... She told me HERSELF that she do wish to stick tabacoo instead of tried kind of weeds including marijuna in first place... after try drugs... not enough then more drug... up to herion... She want to be clean... she tried methadone to rid of drug addiction... Therefore she addicted methadone and then overdose to end her life.



Wow! I am very sorry about your sister... I agree with you, she need to know how to control herself from the drugs, but that's too bad.. *sigh* I am actually speechless when reading this while I am not really surprised because I personally know many people have the same problem and died like your sister. Also I think it was wrong that you sister to peg you and your husband to try the drugs, it's your and husband's choice to not try the drugs, I remember when I bought my first Hookah (a cooking tobacco smoking pipe), I was surprised that my parents allow me to smoke it in their house, also they asked me if they can try it. I think it's because it doesn't smell bad, or even taste like ashes alittle like other tobacco smoking, anyway, I haven't asked them to allow me to smoke it in their house or ask them to try it, except talking about it some. I respect their choices.

Again, I am really sorry about what happened to your daughter, honestly, everytime if I hear someone's story about their crack habit and died, that scare me. It scare me to hear those because I still have the demands to do the crack again inside my mind even though I haven't went back to the crack for about 5 years now, but when hearing those, it make me thinking, "What if I get fuck with the world and go back to the crack, then become homeless and strave to death like those?".

Anyway, it's my expression.. That's really terrible about your daughter.. I am sure everything's okay, she's happy now without drugs today :)

Sorry, I has to disagree that marijuna are the safest drug. I withnessed my sister´s experience. It make her addict more and more... I would say all drugs are not safety and could affect health.

*sigh* Well... I have something to say, what I learned from the treatment, sometimes it helps when I was on "softer drugs" (like alcohol or marijuana), I should think to keep with it and tell myself that I don't need any different drugs, this is the best drug in the world I would use this time and if it run out, I will not think about different drugs and this the same drug is the best in the world for me to buy next time. This does help me, I tend to force myself to think about the alcohol and marijuana if I think about the crack again.

But not everyone will be the same. Some people will try that method and failed due to trying different drugs, some people feel like other "softer drugs" doesn't safisy(sp?) themselves but those "heavy drugs", it's just that many people have different things that they have to learn. I am sure that your sister have a way to learn how to control herself. :)

I do respect your witness of your sister and I am sorry for your loss. :hug:

As much as I sympathize with your tragedy, Liebling, please try to keep in mind that it wasn't the marijuana that was responsible. It was your sister's addictive personality. Most marijuana smokers do not go on to use heroin, or any other drugs. For her, marijuana was dangerous, but chances are very good, with an addictive personality, she would have ended up using harder drugs even if she had never smoked marijuana. That is not to say that this wasn't a tragedy for your sister, and for your whole family. Your pain is justified. I understand your feelings. I just don't think that marijuana caused the problems. Just like some people drink alcohol for many years, but never become an alcoholic because they do not have a genetic predispositon to addiction, somepeople can smoke marijuana for years and never become addicted or move to harder drugs to satisfy their addictive tendencies.

Yupp that's right, that's what my treatment told me.

PuyoPiyo tried to tell you that it´s Pespi´s husband who lost his job when he know about the law but he choose to violate it and took the drugs. It´s his choice, not marijuana itself.

*nods* That's right.

Yes it make sense because he choose to break the law. It´s his own responsible for job loss when he knows that marijuna is an illegal.

Exactly :)

You both are correct... about drugs and alcohol at work...

It´s her husband who choose to violate the law when he know it´s illegal to smoke marijuana... no matter either in or out of job. He would get caught either if he smoke outside or inside of work place...

Right. It's all from him that cause everything become into problem, nothing else.
 
That is exactly why we need to change the laws regarding marijuana. Look at the Netherlands for an example. Legalization has not increased drug use. It simply stopped making criminals out of people who were doing nothing wrong except smoking a little weed.

Exactly! I am already tired of dealing with criminals just for smoking the weed, but sadly it's only the way.
 
Wow! I am very sorry about your sister... I agree with you, she need to know how to control herself from the drugs, but that's too bad.. *sigh* I am actually speechless when reading this while I am not really surprised because I personally know many people have the same problem and died like your sister. Also I think it was wrong that you sister to peg you and your husband to try the drugs, it's your and husband's choice to not try the drugs, I remember when I bought my first Hookah (a cooking tobacco smoking pipe), I was surprised that my parents allow me to smoke it in their house, also they asked me if they can try it. I think it's because it doesn't smell bad, or even taste like ashes alittle like other tobacco smoking, anyway, I haven't asked them to allow me to smoke it in their house or ask them to try it, except talking about it some. I respect their choices.

:ty: - yes my sister said that smoking weed is nice smell than tabacco. Yes I do realized that she has a weak willing and do not limit it.

Again, I am really sorry about what happened to your daughter, honestly, everytime if I hear someone's story about their crack habit and died, that scare me. It scare me to hear those because I still have the demands to do the crack again inside my mind even though I haven't went back to the crack for about 5 years now, but when hearing those, it make me thinking, "What if I get fuck with the world and go back to the crack, then become homeless and strave to death like those?".

Daughter? I do not have a daughter but both boys. I guess it´s my sister you confused with.

Yes, my 23 years old nephew feel the same as you as well. He was lighty addict to drugs. It scared him off after learn the news of his mother´s death. He haven´t touch drugs ever since.

Yes it does the same with acohol... you would become homeless when you addict alcohol more and more. My mother is an alocholic and live in street... She prefer to live in street with groups when she has her own small apartment. :dunno2:


Anyway, it's my expression.. That's really terrible about your daughter.. I am sure everything's okay, she's happy now without drugs today :)

:confused: I don´t have a daughter... I guess you mean that my sister´s daughter? No, it´s my sister´s son who abuse the drugs and quit after learn death of my sister.

*sigh* Well... I have something to say, what I learned from the treatment, sometimes it helps when I was on "softer drugs" (like alcohol or marijuana), I should think to keep with it and tell myself that I don't need any different drugs, this is the best drug in the world I would use this time and if it run out, I will not think about different drugs and this the same drug is the best in the world for me to buy next time. This does help me, I tend to force myself to think about the alcohol and marijuana if I think about the crack again.

Yes, it´s good to know that you limit with kind of drugs. You choose marijuana when you feel it´s right for you and limit with it. It does the same with acohol and kind of drugs..

But not everyone will be the same. Some people will try that method and failed due to trying different drugs, some people feel like other "softer drugs" doesn't safisy(sp?) themselves but those "heavy drugs", it's just that many people have different things that they have to learn.

Yes, I agree with this... like I know how to limit alcohol if I want to drink it. Other people can´t limit when they want to drink...


I am sure that your sister have a way to learn how to control herself. :)

How? She was dead already of drug overdose.


I do respect your witness of your sister and I am sorry for your loss. :hug:

:ty: I still miss her dearly and also her sign langauge.
 
:ty: - yes my sister said that smoking weed is nice smell than tabacco. Yes I do realized that she has a weak willing and do not limit it.



Daughter? I do not have a daughter but both boys. I guess it´s my sister you confused with.

Yes, my 23 years old nephew feel the same as you as well. He was lighty addict to drugs. It scared him off after learn the news of his mother´s death. He haven´t touch drugs ever since.

Yes it does the same with acohol... you would become homeless when you addict alcohol more and more. My mother is an alocholic and live in street... She prefer to live in street with groups when she has her own small apartment. :dunno2:

Yeah anything can cause homeless if people don't take their own responiblities.

:confused: I don´t have a daughter... I guess you mean that my sister´s daughter? No, it´s my sister´s son who abuse the drugs and quit after learn death of my sister.

Sorry for my misreading on your posts, I was kinda in hurry because of moving ya know :lol: My bad.

Yes, it´s good to know that you limit with kind of drugs. You choose marijuana when you feel it´s right for you and limit with it. It does the same with acohol and kind of drugs..

Yupp I a glad that I learned it :)

Yes, I agree with this... like I know how to limit alcohol if I want to drink it. Other people can´t limit when they want to drink...

Right.

How? She was dead already of drug overdose.

I mean when she was alive ;)


:ty: I still miss her dearly and also her sign langauge.
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No problemo :)
 
Methadone is actually more addictive than heroin is. I'm sure that she did try very hard, but her disease was stronger. Her story proves that addiction is not a choice someone makes. Their body makes that choice for them. It is a disease, and far too often, it is a fatal disease.


Yea, I have watched different reality/documentations about people who are addicted to those kinds of drugs. Many of them desperately want to quit but their bodies makes it so difficult for them. That's why I admire my cousin who used to be addicted to meth and herion managed to be sober since 1998. I am sure the addiction is still making life difficult for her and she will have to continue to fight it for the rest of her life.
 
Only thing I wish that someone shouldn't encourage me to take either marijuana or alcohol. That waste my time as I tired of being reject at most of time.
 
PuyoPiyo tried to tell you that it´s Pespi´s husband who lost his job when he know about the law but he choose to violate it and took the drugs. It´s his choice, not marijuana itself.
Don't worry about it, it already been discussed. Pepsi never had blamed the marijuana to begin with.
 
Yea, I have watched different reality/documentations about people who are addicted to those kinds of drugs. Many of them desperately want to quit but their bodies makes it so difficult for them. That's why I admire my cousin who used to be addicted to meth and herion managed to be sober since 1998. I am sure the addiction is still making life difficult for her and she will have to continue to fight it for the rest of her life.

Yes, it is a lifelong battle. Your cousin that has managed to stay sober for that long deserves admiration.
 
*off topic*

Liebling..I wanted to say how sorry I am about your sister. I cant imagine the pain u must have felt. :hug:
 
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