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dreama said:
Correction: Those that are caught are strictly forbidden around children. Unfortunately some never get caught because they are too XXXX clever.
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ok but point is - several laws are already there that strictly forbid it. there's nothing more we can do if they got XXXX clever. beside - clever how? faked a death and get a completely new ID? go to another country?
 
Hear Again said:
this is true. i was abused/traumatized 3 different ways by my parents and i did nothing about it because i was too afraid to tell another adult for fear of my father going to jail, i didn't know what could be done to rectify the situation and for the most part, until i was 13, i was too young to understand what it meant to tell authorities what was happening to me.
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:gpost: I understand, and can completely relate.
 
Jiro said:
ok but point is - several laws are already there that strictly forbid it. there's nothing more we can do if they got XXXX clever. beside - clever how? faked a death and get a completely new ID? go to another country?
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Let me give you an example how they do it, Jiro. One of my child abusers worked at four schools in seven years. He moved four times in the last 20 years, to four completely different countries. That's how. And when he knew he was about to get caught, he would quit right before they could accuse him and put it on his record. That's exactly what he did--he left the year after some information started circulating. Coincidence? Hardly.
 
Nika said:
Yes. "Snap out of it." "Get over it." "Get out of your funk." "Move on." "Stop moping." "Do something." My family has yelled at me for hours about how I'm always so depressed and it's so annoying to them and how they're sick of me being depressed all the time. "You're such a burden, Nika." That's the worst is when they call me a burden. And they tend to do this when I'm already feeling suicidal, so calling me a burden just gives me more reason to want to end it all. <depressed>
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i'm sorry nika. <hugs> i've had people say the same thing to me. they say things like, "stop feeling sorry for yourself," "lift yourself up by your bootstraps and start thinking positively" or "if you're unhappy with your life, change it." if it were only that easy! people don't understand that when i am in a severe depression, it is *severe* and i become so catatonic that i can't speak, move or think clearly. i also become psychotic where i hear voices that tell me to harm myself. when i experience severe depression, i'm literally bedridden.
 
That too is that rather than assuming something seriously was wrong, I just assumed this happened to all children and I was somehow weak and couldn't handle something that was just normal. I didn't even know it was out of the norm, so I didn't even think it was something I could report. Not to mention many child abusers are excellent at threatening their victims in order to keep it secret.
 
Nika said:
Another thing that pushes all my buttons: when people get mad at me for feeling depressed. I'm sorry, I can't help it. And then they start blaming me for being a pain in the neck and so on. <mad>
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I understand how you feel.
 
Hear Again said:
when i experience severe depression, i'm literally bedridden.
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Same here. Can't get out of bed. Can't leave the house. Unfortunately my parents are in this same house and are constantly on my case about going out and doing something.
 
Nika said:
That too is that rather than assuming something seriously was wrong, I just assumed this happened to all children and I was somehow weak and couldn't handle something that was just normal. I didn't even know it was out of the norm, so I didn't even think it was something I could report. Not to mention many child abusers are excellent at threatening their victims in order to keep it secret.
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Yup, there are all sorts of reasons people dont say anything.
 
Nika said:
Let me give you an example how they do it, Jiro. One of my child abusers worked at four schools in seven years. He moved four times in the last 20 years, to four completely different countries. That's how. And when he knew he was about to get caught, he would quit right before they could accuse him and put it on his record. That's exactly what he did--he left the year after some information started circulating. Coincidence? Hardly.
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I see. I'm very sorry to hear. America has already strict laws and pedophiles (American citizens) cannot get do it. Some countries are very loose with it but we are not. We require criminal background check, credential check, etc. As for foreigner who moved into America to repeat the same crime..... there's nothing we can do about it unless his criminal record is on Interpol file.

again - world's not perfect but we have a serious penalty. Don't forget that pedophiles in prison will be treated worse than what they did to innocent children. Karma's a bitch...
 
Jiro said:
again - world's not perfect but we have a serious penalty. Don't forget that pedophiles in prison will be treated worse than they did to innocent children. Karma's a bitch...
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exactly. this is why pedophiles require their own security protection and/or are sectioned off from the general prison population.
 
Also, many child abusers don't get caught to begin with so they have a clean record so to speak. I know some of them must have because I know one right now that got a job in pediatric oncology. She must have a clean record if she could get that job.
 
Nika said:
Also, many child abusers don't get caught to begin with so they have a clean record so to speak. I know some of them must have because I know one right now that got a job in pediatric oncology. She must have a clean record if she could get that job.
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*shakes head* Thats just retarded.
 
Jiro said:
ok but point is - several laws are already there that strictly forbid it. there's nothing more we can do if they got XXXX clever. beside - clever how? faked a death and get a completely new ID? go to another country?
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I mean they don't get caught in the first place. Have you ever wondered how most prisoners have a low IQ. It's not because people with low IQ's are the only ones to comit crimes. Far from it.

It's because clever criminals don't get caught.

This is particulaly true with sex offenders because if they rape or molest a child that people don't believe for whatever reason the authorities are likely to take the SO's part in the matter. Not the child's part.
 
Nika said:
That too is that rather than assuming something seriously was wrong, I just assumed this happened to all children and I was somehow weak and couldn't handle something that was just normal. I didn't even know it was out of the norm, so I didn't even think it was something I could report. Not to mention many child abusers are excellent at threatening their victims in order to keep it secret.
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i also felt as though the treatment i received was normal. i didn't know otherwise until i was 19 years old and had moved out of the house a year earlier.
 
That too. A lot of child abusers are outwardly generous, to keep others from suspecting them. They will donate to charities, be the popular person, be sociable and overall likable. Then they'll get you in a room just the two of you and it's a whole different story from there. I talked to one of my abusers on the phone once and it was ridiculous how "kind" and "polite" etc. she was. No one would ever suspect her.
 
Nika said:
Also, many child abusers don't get caught to begin with so they have a clean record so to speak. I know some of them must have because I know one right now that got a job in pediatric oncology. She must have a clean record if she could get that job.
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yes I know. It pisses me off. no scratch that. it infuriates me because it is extremely difficult to prosecute the pedophiles because, like you said, they're very clever in not getting caught.
 
typeingtornado19 said:
Yeah, where is the manual that tells you that the things that happen are not normal? I think someone should publish one. I never new a lot of the things that happened were not normal, and sometimes when people tell me they have amazing parents i just roll my eyes.
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They have programs like "good touch, bad touch." However that only includes physical and sexual abuse, not emotional or verbal abuse. And also, how many kids are going to have "good touch, bad touch" pop in their minds when their abuser is saying "if you tell anyone I'll tell mommy and daddy you've been a bad little girl/boy"?
 
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