Law Allowing Guns in Restaurants Takes Effect Wednesday

[Jiro]

Oh, great. Now instead of calling 911 when McDonald's runs out of chicken nuggets, they'll just shoot the clerk!:roll:

My first thought was Oh, boy the days of the Wild Old West are baaaack! when I saw this thread.

Same here!

The image of the saloons and cowboys with their guns!

typical stereotype and a huge misconception about CCW holder. :roll:

as Jillio said in other thread - "It is amazing how those with a personal agenda repeatedly take something unrelated and attempt to spin it to support their agenda. Guess they can't find anything significant without making things appear to be what they aren't and misrepresenting."

 

[Jiro]

If they don't want a shootout in their restaurants where they server alcohol, then don't serve alcohol.

Alcohol is far worse than guns and remember, don't drink and drive. If you're gonna get behind the wheel, you might as well drive a bullet.

Yiz

did you know it's illegal to consume alcohol if you're packing a heat? Just because you're going to bars doesn't mean you're going to drink.

again - got any news about CCW holder doing a shoot-out?

 

[Lighthouse77]

If they don't want a shootout in their restaurants where they server alcohol, then don't serve alcohol.

Alcohol is far worse than guns and remember, don't drink and drive. If you're gonna get behind the wheel, you might as well drive a bullet.

Yiz

alcohol do bring the monster out of some people hence why there are more abuses of any kind when a father or husband is drunk. Not saying alcohol is the cause of abuse, but it does make them not able to think twice what they are doing.
Restaurants serving alcohol would the the reason I would bring a gun. I have no reason to bring a gun to McDonald

 

[jillio]

typical stereotype and a huge misconception about CCW holder. :roll:

as Jillio said in other thread - "It is amazing how those with a personal agenda repeatedly take something unrelated and attempt to spin it to support their agenda. Guess they can't find anything significant without making things appear to be what they aren't and misrepresenting."

Actually, my comment was very related. It was about the presence of guns in restaurants, and the absurdity of allowing such. Illustrated with sarcasm. And if the ability to assess a situation as an emergency or as threatening falls to people that will call 911 to report a restaurant being out of chicken nuggets, we certainly should not be trusting their decision making capacities when it comes to firing a gun in a crowded restaurant.

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

Um...

Jiro's posts are actually rational. Most, if not all, of the things commited on public property involves illegal gun ownership.

Besides... if they have concealed weapon, you wouldn't know about it unless you have a metal detector or pat down the person. So it is n ot like they weren't prohibited from going into restaurants in the first place-- only at bars and nightclubs.

But even then it's illegal to serve alcohol to a known concealed weapon carrier. I don't know about you, but most of the nightclubs up here pat down the person before serving booze... So I imagine that CCW owners will have to wear an armband while they are in the joints.

 

[sallylou]

How about a bazooka? No way to hide that. I always loved the little green army man with the bazooka.

 

[Reba]

Law allowing guns in restaurants takes effect Wednesday

TEMPE -- At Gordon Biersch in Tempe, you'll find more than just the hours of operation on the front door.

Managers at the restaurant have also added a sign that reads "No Firearms Allowed."

They hope the sign will keep out concealed weapons in the wake of a change to Arizona law.

"Everyone has the right to bear arms, however, we feel that mixing alcohol and firearms is a bad decision," says General Manager Cheryl Johnson.

A new law takes effect Wednesday that allows anyone with a permit to carry a concealed weapon into bars and restaurants.

If the owners of those establishments don't want their customers armed, they must put up a sign.

"I think it's crazy," Johnson adds. "We don't allow smoking yet we're allowing firearms in our establishments where liquor is served."

"As a bar operator, we're stumped as to why this would be approved," said Jake Guzman, General Manager of the Library Bar and Grill in Tempe.

The Library also plans to put up signs at the front door indicating they don't allow weapons.

However, two days out, the restaurant's staff still doesn't exactly know how they'll enforce it.

"There has not been one agency that has contacted any of us to educate us on how we handle these situations," said Guzman.

While restaurant managers may disapprove, customers don't seem to mind having lunch next to someone carrying a gun.

"It's it's the law of Arizona," said Kevin Moley of Scottsdale. "Until something happens to suggest it's not viable, I think it should be allowed."

The law will allow permit holders to carry concealed weapons into bars, however, while carrying a weapon they will not be allowed to drink alcohol.

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Maybe they could frisk their patrons as they enter the restaurant.

 

[Reba]

... Not to mention, why should people need to be armed to eat out?

Maybe they have to travel thru a dangerous neighborhood to get to the restaurant. Or maybe they stop at the restaurant on the way home from work, or on the way to another destination that is more dangerous.

Robberies do happen in and around restaurants.

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

Maybe they could frisk their patrons as they enter the restaurant.

They pretty much do!

I remember when my FM got mistaken for a concealed knife when I got frisked, until I showed them what it was.

 

[Reba]

... I still will not trust anyone carrying a gun expect cops or anyone working into law enforcements have legal rights to carrying a gun.

It doesn't matter whether or not you trust them. If they have the legal right to carry, they will. The only thing you can do is post a sign keeping them out of your business establishment or home.

 

[Reba]

They pretty much do!

I remember when my FM got mistaken for a concealed knife when I got frisked, until I showed them what it was.

You were frisked entering a restaurant?

 

[Reba]

My first thought was Oh, boy the days of the Wild Old West are baaaack! when I saw this thread.

In the old West, they checked their guns at the door of the saloon. :P

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

You were frisked entering a restaurant?

It was a well-known campus restaurant (more like coffee shop) with a shoddy history. Brawls often take place, so... the owners did that to cut down on gangs entering the place.

 

[Reba]

I don't fear restaurants that allow guns anymore I feel going to the park and never knowing who have a gun and who don't. Afterall, they don't do gun checkpoint....

That's right.

 

[Reba]

It was a well-known campus restaurant (more like coffee shop) with a shoddy history. Brawls often take place, so... the owners did that to cut down on gangs entering the place.

Oh, my! I've never been in a restaurant that required frisking. If it did, I probably wouldn't want to go there.

 

[kokonut]

Oh, my! I've never been in a restaurant that required frisking. If it did, I probably wouldn't want to go there.

Ah, yes, it'd be a ripe opportunity to try and cop a feel by untrained personnel.

 

[Reba]

I didn't know that McDonald's serve alcohol. If they don't, then the new law doesn't change anything for them.

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

Oh, my! I've never been in a restaurant that required frisking. If it did, I probably wouldn't want to go there.

Yeah... I am 22 right now. I have no intention of going to popular undergrad hangouts any more. Just not my crowd... and I suspect you wouldn't want to go to those places for the same reason.

Fresh-out-of-high schoolers may call me old, but at least I am not getting mixed up with the wrong type any longer.

 

[Reba]

Ah, yes, it'd be a ripe opportunity to try and cop a feel by untrained personnel.

That's not what I was thinking. I meant if the ambiance of a restaurant is that rough, I prefer not to dine there.

 

[Foxrac]

I didn't know that McDonald's serve alcohol. If they don't, then the new law doesn't change anything for them.

No, McDonald's don't serve the alcohol but jillio was point about shot at clerk for not have McNugget, it could be not related to drunk but just crazy person.