Ladies: would you vote for Palin?

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Reba said:
I looked at each of your links. None of them said that Palin enjoys shooting bear cubs. I believe you owe an apology for posting a slanderous lie.
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Again, check my previous post and RE-READ YouTube - Sarah Palin and Animals and wrote what the video wrote...

"It written in video tube that Palin authorized up to 70% bears (1,400) including mothers and cubs are killed, use wolves, bears, mooses to dress or decoration at her home as fur, bearskin rug,"

I feel that you owe me an apology for jump and accuse me as a slanderous liar.


:bowdown: Frau Moderator
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Oh I see because I thought you are respectful person... ?

From your link:

"An attempt to force the bears to raise their cubs as nature intended has already led to two others being eaten by their confused mother, Wilma."
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Do you see the original pictures of mother polar bear with cub?

Yes, they beleive in polar cub should raise by nature mother that´s time was in Berlin..., not Nuermberg near where I live. They suspected that mother Vera eat one or two cubs because they only see one cub, not more. Thank God, both polar cubs of Berlin and Nuermberg are SAVED..., not KILLED...
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Maria said:
That's natural for hunters who hunt for wild game meats. It's nothin' wrong with bein' a hunter. :)
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Can you please post the source where they shoot bears and wolves for meats (food) because I only know that they shoot mooses for meats? Accord the article, that they shoot bears and wolves for pleasure and for their skins. If you disagree with those links then free to prove me that they shoot bears and wolves for the meats.

I have no problem with hunting for the foods.


 
Liebling:-))) said:
Again, check my previous post and RE-READ YouTube - Sarah Palin and Animals and wrote what the video wrote...

"It written in video tube that Palin authorized up to 70% bears (1,400) including mothers and cubs are killed, use wolves, bears, mooses to dress or decoration at her home as fur, bearskin rug,"

I feel that you owe me an apology for jump and accuse me as a slanderous liar.
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Here is your original statement:

"Do you think a pro lifer like her who loves to shoot wolves and also fire at bear cubs on trees as well for the fun?"

I challenged you to prove that Palin loves to "fire at bear cubs on trees." You have not proven that she does that. None of your links say that Palin loves to fire at bear cubs. Therefore, my original challenge stands.

You are the one who made a false accusation against Palin. That is a libelous slander because you made a damaging false statement against someone.


Do you see the original pictures of mother polar bear with cub?

Yes, they beleive in polar cub should raise by nature mother that´s time was in Berlin..., not Nuermberg near where I live. They suspected that mother Vera eat one or two cubs because they only see one cub, not more. Thank God, both polar cubs of Berlin and Nuermberg are SAVED..., not KILLED...
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Do you disagree with your own posted link?
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Can you please post the source where they shoot bears and wolves for meats (food) because I only know that they shoot mooses for meats? Accord the article, that they shoot bears and wolves for pleasure and for their skins. If you disagree with those links then free to prove me that they shoot bears and wolves for the meats.

I have no problem with hunting for the foods.
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Here's the link you can research yourself. :)

Alaska Department of Fish and Game Division of Wildlife Conservation
 
Reba said:
Here is your original statement:

"Do you think a pro lifer like her who loves to shoot wolves and also fire at bear cubs on trees as well for the fun?"
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You changed several times..

What I said is my view after learn from websites... so?

You asked me for source "Where did you read that she likes to shoot bear cubs? I can't find that story." I provided you plenty of links including mother and cubs... you twisted my post and called me as a slanderous lie because "None of them said that Palin enjoys shooting bear cubs." I showed you again the video written that including mother and cubs... You choose to ignore it and continue to call me a lie and want to see just "fire at bear cubs on trees". I thought you read one of Jillos' links over rape-kit issues but it show your ignorant...

I challenged you to prove that Palin loves to "fire at bear cubs on trees." You have not proven that she does that. None of your links say that Palin loves to fire at bear cubs.
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Do you think such a pro-life person as her (that loves to shoot wolves from the air, fire at bear cubs on trees, and anything that moves on four legs in Alaska for pleasure- even as she is doing her best to deny the eskimos and native Alaskan population their right to subsistence hunting/fishing) would be able to face her lord on the day of judgement when she is asked how she allowed Wasilla to pay for 'emergency contraception' for such sinful people as the 'contraception demanding rape victims' of Wasilla.

Setu on HuffingtonPost

You owe me an apology for make a false accusation for beleive that I make it up.


Therefore, my original challenge stands.
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No, you don't bother to say anything what you think about rape kit, killing animal for pleasure, etc because McCain/Palin is your supporter... like example what Jazzy said ...

AllDeaf.com - View Single Post - MCain's homes is true.

If you conutiue to call me as a slanderous liar then you should also call Jazzy the same as well... ?

You are the one who made a false accusation against Palin. That is a libelous slander because you made a damaging false statement against someone.
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The links, I provided that Palin is for to shoot the wolves, bears and cubs out of pleasure but you choose to ignore or deny it... It's not my problem. I only give the links over shoot wolves, bears including cubs.

Do you disagree with your own posted link?
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Due respect to the thread creator, I would not make :topic: to discuss with you here. I offered my suggestion to discuss at right thread at earlier but you choose to ignore it and call me as Mrs Moderator and then continue to post here..which is disrespectful. *shake my head* .
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Lieblin',

Indian tribes have always hunted, killin' wolves, bears and wild animals for their survival. They even use the wild animals for furs to keep Indian tribes warm durin' winter season. They even traded it with Americans for their stuff such as cups, or guns and things like that Indian tribes never saw before. It's all about their survival.

I don't think that Palin is brutal for killin' moose or what animal she hunts. Indians did the same thing. Why do you focus on Palin as " brutal " when we knew about the Indians' history for killin' animals for their survival ? Indian tribes want to keep their history to stay alive. Everythin' is about Indians that the white people have to follow their culture and tradition. All the lands in Alaska belonged to Indian tribes. It don't belong to white people. Suppose, if the white people want to carve or make somethin' to sell, they have to make somethin' that Indians make such as Totem poles, jade, ivory, jewelry and stuff. It had to be Indians' way, not Americans' way. Alaska is an Indian Terrority. Alaska is not like Germany where you live, neither it be like Texas or Washington D.C. or any state in USA, except Alaska itself alone.
 
Maria said:
Here's the link you can research yourself. :)

Alaska Department of Fish and Game Division of Wildlife Conservation
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:ty: for link... I only see that they hunt moose and caribou for the meat, no word about wolves and bears...
that's link, I got from the link you posted here... Hunting for Trophy Meat, Alaska Department of Fish and Game

I have no problem with fishes, sheep, moose, etc... it's common to catch them for the foods..

Interesting link...

Violations

It is illegal to shoot cubs or a sow accompanied by cubs of either species. It is illegal to hunt or kill a brown/grizzly bear within one half mile of a garbage dump or land fill. No part of a bear can be sold or purchased.

Sometimes people feel they have to shoot a bear that may be threatening life or property. Use your best judgment. If you do kill a bear in defense of life and property you must immediately bring the hide and skull to ADF&G for sealing and make a thorough report on why you killed the bear. If you take the bear with legal methods and means, have a valid hunting license and tags (if necessary) and the season is open, you can keep the bear. Otherwise, you will have to forfeit the bear. It is not legal to shoot a bear and claim defense of life and property if the bear is feeding on the carcass of a game animal that you have shot. The carcass is not considered property in this situation. Read the regulations for more details on this before you go hunting.
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unless you can kill bear as self-protection.

Kodiak Brown Bear Hunting, Alaska Department of Fish and Game


I'm surprised that wolves do not mention in that link... ?

It look like that wildlife is for animal protection... I have read that they fought against Palin... vote to against for shoot wolves, pups and bears, cubs from plane or helicopter (see video) TWICE.... spend taxpayers thousands $$$ on kill wolves and bears... accord the links, I posted.



Interesting link...


I thought that Palin support to kill wolves, bear and bear cubs like what the links, I posted but I didn't know that baby wolves are also killed, too... :tears:

Palin: 14 Wolf Pups shot in Head
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Palin pay people $$$ for each dead wolf.

I feel sick with pain to read more websites over kill animals out of pleasure...


Did Sarah Palin really shoot wolves from a helicopter? - Yahoo! Answers

I do not want to read further...







 
Maria said:
Lieblin',

Indian tribes have always hunted, killin' wolves, bears and wild animals for their survival. They even use the wild animals for furs to keep Indian tribes warm durin' winter season. They even traded it with Americans for their stuff such as cups, or guns and things like that Indian tribes never saw before. It's all about their survival.

I don't think that Palin is brutal for killin' moose or what animal she hunts. Indians did the same thing. Why do you focus on Palin as " brutal " when we knew about the Indians' history for killin' animals for their survival ? Indian tribes want to keep their history to stay alive. Everythin' is about Indians that the white people have to follow their culture and tradition. All the lands in Alaska belonged to Indian tribes. It don't belong to white people. Suppose, if the white people want to carve or make somethin' to sell, they have to make somethin' that Indians make such as Totem poles, jade, ivory, jewelry and stuff. It had to be Indians' way, not Americans' way. Alaska is an Indian Terrority. Alaska is not like Germany where you live, neither it be like Texas or Washington D.C. or any state in USA, except Alaska itself alone.
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I have no problem for hunt the animals for meat but pleasure? It written in your wildlife link that they hunt for meats only... mooses, caribou etc... and also fishes as well... It doesn't written that they hunt bears and wolves for meat. I learn from the links, I posted that they killed wolves and bears for their skins.

You only know that Native Americans hunt for survive due their tradition which is not compare with Palin.

 
Polar bear is vulnerable, very closer to become endangered due global warming because of ices are start melting as sea level rises and alot of killed during hunting games, Canada has implemented the restriction for hunting against polar bear, I feel very bad for polar bear, they are my favorite bear.

If any animals, such as wolves, moose, deer or bears are become endanger then what would happen? If we don't take care of it then it could become extinct and hunting would become unpopular in future.

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Brian? what's up? you don't reply my post yet...
 
Liebling:-))) said:
I have no problem for hunt the animals for meat but pleasure? It written in your wildlife link that they hunt for meats only... mooses, caribou etc... and also fishes as well... It doesn't written that they hunt bears and wolves for meat. I learn from the links, I posted that they killed wolves and bears for their skins.
You only know that Native Americans hunt for survive due their tradition which is not compare with Palin.
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It's normal for Indians to kill bears and wolves to make their own boots to keep their feet warm and also for coverin' their heads. It's nothin' wrong. Americans that live in Alaska learned Indians' way of how to make things for their future survival. If, anythin' should happen to Alaska, the Americans will know what to do by learnin' through Indians' way, because Alaska is very, very tough place to live. It's not like here or your country. Alaska can kill you, if you don't know how to survive by Indians' way. You could die easy by starvation, or brutal " cold " in winter. I got some terrible red " scar " on my thighs when I walked in very brutal winter... boy, it ain't that pretty, but that's how Alaska is. I am glad my thighs are healed after I moved down here in Florida. I already experienced through Alaska myself - both winter and food. It ain't that easy, girl. It's why they hunt animals for some good reasons, be it for food or clothings or both.

Sometimes, they have to shoot wolves in order to save deers, mooses, and such, because of its low numbers of deers, mooses, polar bears and etc. Wolves are growin' fast and they are predators for deers, mooses and such. It's another reason why they had to shoot wolves. There are soo many things you don't know about Alaska. All you have to do is experiencin' Alaska yourself by livin' there. You will understand why. :)
 
Maria said:
It's normal for Indians to kill bears and wolves to make their own boots to keep their feet warm and also for coverin' their heads. It's nothin' wrong. Americans that live in Alaska learned Indians' way of how to make things for their future survival. If, anythin' should happen to Alaska, the Americans will know what to do by learnin' through Indians' way, because Alaska is very, very tough place to live. It's not like here or your country. Alaska can kill you, if you don't know how to survive by Indians' way. You could die easy by starvation, or brutal " cold " in winter. I got some terrible red " scar " on my thighs when I walked in very brutal winter... boy, it ain't that pretty, but that's how Alaska is. I am glad my thighs are healed after I moved down here in Florida. I already experienced through Alaska myself - both winter and food. It ain't that easy, girl. It's why they hunt animals for some good reasons, be it for food or clothings or both.

Sometimes, they have to shoot wolves in order to save deers, mooses, and such, because of its low numbers of deers, mooses, polar bears and etc. Wolves are growin' fast and they are predators for deers, mooses and such. It's another reason why they had to shoot wolves. There are soo many things you don't know about Alaska. All you have to do is experiencin' Alaska yourself by livin' there. You will understand why. :)
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That makes a lot of sense about hunting wilds for clothing and food because living in Alaska can be very cold-- could be as bad as -50 °F
 
I understand why because of the overpopulated of wolves in Alaska but why wouldn't the biologists send them off to a zoo or be adopted since there are many places around the country that would have take them.

I'm sorry but there's just no sense of killing those poor little wolf pups.. :(
 
Killing baby animals is brutal to me and do not bother telling me that it is not brutal.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
I have no problem for hunt the animals for meat but pleasure? It written in your wildlife link that they hunt for meats only... mooses, caribou etc... and also fishes as well... It doesn't written that they hunt bears and wolves for meat. I learn from the links, I posted that they killed wolves and bears for their skins.

You only know that Native Americans hunt for survive due their tradition which is not compare with Palin.
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sigh...... Oh well.... Maria, I guess it's pretty much hopeless to headbutt with animal rights activists. Who said it was for pleasure? It's called animal culling and what do you propose about these dead animals? Throw it into garbage? At least we recycled it in a way.... we take the skin and eat the meat or let the scavengers eat it. It's nature way - nothing is wasted.
 
Angel said:
Ugh, that's horrible brutal practice, no animal deserves this and I thought "real" hunters hunt on foot not plane.


Sigh, cruelty to animals happens every day...
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Yes, I think these people who hunt from the air are cowards to go on foot to hunt.
 
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