Know Your Rights - Transgender People and the Law

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I still dont see the wrongness in thia such "unnatural" and "illogical" thing such as been gay, transgender, bisexual or whatever a persons preference is
 
respectyoda said:
It is appalling and sad when people cannot accept their gender. When a person is born a certain gender and tries to act/look like the opposite gender, this just goes against nature.
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What Causes People to Be Transgender? Many health experts believe that being transgender isn't caused by one single thing. They believe it's the result of a complex mixture of biology, psychology, and environmental factors — and not simply a matter of choice.


Not against nature!

Transgender People
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Dreamer03 said:
I still dont see the wrongness in thia such "unnatural" and "illogical" thing such as been gay, transgender, bisexual or whatever a persons preference is
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This is because you don't completely comprehend why this goes against nature.

hurleysrus said:
What Causes People to Be Transgender? Many health experts believe that being transgender isn't caused by one single thing. They believe it's the result of a complex mixture of biology, psychology, and environmental factors — and not simply a matter of choice.


Not against nature!
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Many people claim to be "experts," but often times they cannot substantiate their claims. Transgenderism is caused by environment factors, not biological factors. This is because it is a choice. One cannot claim it is a biological factor because the DNA still states a person is of a certain gender whether or not the person decides to act/look of the opposite gender.
 
respectyoda said:
This is because you don't completely comprehend why this goes against nature.



Many people claim to be "experts," but often times they cannot substantiate their claims. Transgenderism is caused by environment factors, not biological factors. This is because it is a choice. One cannot claim it is a biological factor because the DNA still states a person is of a certain gender whether or not the person decides to act/look of the opposite gender.
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Can you back up your claim that its a choice? No, cuz that quit being "fact" many years ago
 
Who decied what is nature and what is not? Let say "nature" chose that earth is overpopulated
So lets solve this problem!!!! Lets make people like the same gender so there wont be so many babies!!!(ok im making all this up) plus there has been even proven studies in which it is shown that the brain structure of people who are gay or all those other things is different, making it look similar to the opposite sex of whT they were born. My argument is as valid as yours. And its fine you disagree with most people here but got to respect others opinion.
 
hurleysrus said:
Can you back up your claim that its a choice? No, cuz that quit being "fact" many years ago
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Well, his argument is very flawed and he is in state of denial about transgender isn't choice.

I have some transgender friends, especially happily grown up - one woman with man's brain that trapped in woman's body. There were little or no environment that caused her to became transgender, also she loved boy's toys when she were toddler.
 
respectyoda said:
This is because you don't completely comprehend why this goes against nature.



Many people claim to be "experts," but often times they cannot substantiate their claims. Transgenderism is caused by environment factors, not biological factors. This is because it is a choice. One cannot claim it is a biological factor because the DNA still states a person is of a certain gender whether or not the person decides to act/look of the opposite gender.
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Transsexualism [ Part I ]
 
hurleysrus said:
Can you back up your claim that its a choice? No, cuz that quit being "fact" many years ago
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I already backed my claim up about it being a choice earlier in this thread and many others. One makes a conscious choice to undergo a sexual change operation. One makes a conscious choice to change how she/he dresses. One makes a conscious choice on who he/she loves.

Babies are born either a male or a female. Babies are born with a pure mind so they don't suddenly decide they were not supposed to be born a male or a female. People when they grow up are influenced by what they see, hear, touch, and feel and make decisions based on these things. I stated before that if one claims one was born gay, then by the same token, one can claim one is born a murderer, rapist, adulterer, etc. The problem with this is the baby is born with a pure mind and being a rapist, murderer, adulterer is not part of one's DNA so hence, this is not a biological factor.

Dreamer03 said:
Who decied what is nature and what is not? Let say "nature" chose that earth is overpopulated
So lets solve this problem!!!! Lets make people like the same gender so there wont be so many babies!!!(ok im making all this up) plus there has been even proven studies in which it is shown that the brain structure of people who are gay or all those other things is different, making it look similar to the opposite sex of whT they were born. My argument is as valid as yours. And its fine you disagree with most people here but got to respect others opinion.
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Well, if people were the same gender, there would NOT be any babies! It is not proven that the brain structure is responsible for people being gay. It is not the brain that causes people to be gay, a murderer, a rapist, a fornicator, etc. It is the mind. People put things in their mind that causes them to think it is okay to do those things!
 
respectyoda said:

I already backed my claim up about it being a choice earlier in this thread and many others. One makes a conscious choice to undergo a sexual change operation. One makes a conscious choice to change how she/he dresses. One makes a conscious choice on who he/she loves.

Babies are born either a male or a female. Babies are born with a pure mind so they don't suddenly decide they were not supposed to be born a male or a female. People when they grow up are influenced by what they see, hear, touch, and feel and make decisions based on these things. I stated before that if one claims one was born gay, then by the same token, one can claim one is born a murderer, rapist, adulterer, etc. The problem with this is the baby is born with a pure mind and being a rapist, murderer, adulterer is not part of one's DNA so hence, this is not a biological factor.
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So manu mental dosorders that say otherwise to yoyr statment. But heck sexual orientation is not same thing, not a point of comparison between those
 
respectyoda said:

I already backed my claim up about it being a choice earlier in this thread and many others. One makes a conscious choice to undergo a sexual change operation. One makes a conscious choice to change how she/he dresses. One makes a conscious choice on who he/she loves.

Babies are born either a male or a female. Babies are born with a pure mind so they don't suddenly decide they were not supposed to be born a male or a female. People when they grow up are influenced by what they see, hear, touch, and feel and make decisions based on these things. I stated before that if one claims one was born gay, then by the same token, one can claim one is born a murderer, rapist, adulterer, etc. The problem with this is the baby is born with a pure mind and being a rapist, murderer, adulterer is not part of one's DNA so hence, this is not a biological factor.



Well, if people were the same gender, there would NOT be any babies! It is not proven that the brain structure is responsible for people being gay. It is not the brain that causes people to be gay, a murderer, a rapist, a fornicator, etc. It is the mind. People put things in their mind that causes them to think it is okay to do those things!
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No you did not back it with anything but your opinion.

Say I was born 100% female, then had genetic testing done in my 20's and found out I carry male chromosomes.... are you saying I am not natural? I gave birth to 4 kids, was born female so why do I carry male chromosomes IN MY DNA?
 
respectyoda said:

I already backed my claim up about it being a choice earlier in this thread and many others. One makes a conscious choice to undergo a sexual change operation. One makes a conscious choice to change how she/he dresses. One makes a conscious choice on who he/she loves.

Babies are born either a male or a female. Babies are born with a pure mind so they don't suddenly decide they were not supposed to be born a male or a female. People when they grow up are influenced by what they see, hear, touch, and feel and make decisions based on these things. I stated before that if one claims one was born gay, then by the same token, one can claim one is born a murderer, rapist, adulterer, etc. The problem with this is the baby is born with a pure mind and being a rapist, murderer, adulterer is not part of one's DNA so hence, this is not a biological factor.


Well, if people were the same gender, there would NOT be any babies! It is not proven that the brain structure is responsible for people being gay. It is not the brain that causes people to be gay, a murderer, a rapist, a fornicator, etc. It is the mind. People put things in their mind that causes them to think it is okay to do those things!
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Just other state of denial, it is not my mind to state bisexual as my sexual orientation and it was come from my brain, so I shared my experience with conversion therapy didn't work for all people, so you can't change straight man into gay man, unless you are pretending to be gay man.

Don't compare gay to murderer, rapist and thieve. No wonder why almost all of us disagree with your statement.
 
Dreamer03 said:
So manu mental dosorders that say otherwise to yoyr statment. But heck sexual orientation is not same thing, not a point of comparison between those
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Many people claim certain things are a mental disorder, but the truth is that people didn't take care of their mind.

hurleysrus said:
No you did not back it with anything but your opinion.

Say I was born 100% female, then had genetic testing done in my 20's and found out I carry male chromosomes.... are you saying I am not natural? I gave birth to 4 kids, was born female so why do I carry male chromosomes IN MY DNA?
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You said, "Say..." This is just a theoretical scenario which does not bear weight in this debacle. It is impossible for a woman to carry male chromosomes. In other words, it is impossible for a woman to have a Y chromosome, but on the other hand, there have been cases where a man was born with an extra Y chromosome in which he had female organs.
 
hurleysrus said:
No you did not back it with anything but your opinion.

Say I was born 100% female, then had genetic testing done in my 20's and found out I carry male chromosomes.... are you saying I am not natural? I gave birth to 4 kids, was born female so why do I carry male chromosomes IN MY DNA?
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Of course, it is his pure opinion.

I think he expects that I will be PERFECT PERSON - STRAIGHT. :roll:
 
Foxrac said:
Of course, it is his pure opinion.

I think he expects that I will be PERFECT PERSON - STRAIGHT. :roll:
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Better syart making better life decions. Go be straight!!!(im seriously joking) and there is cases of people born with chromosomes of both genders. And then there is also people who are consider both men and woman.
 
respectyoda said:
Many people claim certain things are a mental disorder, but the truth is that people didn't take care of their mind.



You said, "Say..." This is just a theoretical scenario which does not bear weight in this debacle. It is impossible for a woman to carry male chromosomes. In other words, it is impossible for a woman to have a Y chromosome, but on the other hand, there have been cases where a man was born with an extra Y chromosome in which he had female organs.
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FYI, its not theoretical, I still haven't been comfortable sharing those results because of bigotry.... not impossible, just rare. Its a mild form of hermaphroditism from what the Dr. Said
So bash away and call me a freak now, cuz I know your type
 
hurleysrus said:
FYI, its not theoretical, I still haven't been comfortable sharing those results because of bigotry.... not impossible, just rare. Its a mild form of hermaphroditism from what the Dr. Said
So bash away and call me a freak now, cuz I know your type
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*hug* you no freak and dobt let this person tell you so. Got to admit you are pretty brave and strong for saying it.
 
Gender is what's between your ears, sex is found between your legs. Just because I was born one sex doesn't mean I have to accept it since I know I'm not, it's wrong and I can change it without it affecting anyone else's life. If you're born poor, do you just accept it or try everything you can to lead a less stressful, happier life?

I'm going to be blunt here and say this.. What the hell do you know about trans issues? What do you know about the issues moral crusaders such as yourself cause not only for trans people like myself, but gay people face? I don't smoke tobacco, but those who do I don't care, those who don't smoke at all, I also don't care. What does it matter what others do to feel complete and happy in their lives? We live maybe 80 years or so and die, that's it. Don't want to be with a member of your sex, don't, feel comfortable as your birth sex, cool.

After reading all that guy's posts, I have to share the first thing that popped in my mind.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6DEgywU-hM"]George Carlin - This guy is ****ing stupid - YouTube[/ame]

Either this guy is a troll or just a self-righteous bigot who lacks even a modicum of empathy.
 
OMG!!! My head hurts after respectyoda hits my head with his bible book. :dizzy:
 
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