Know Your Rights - Transgender People and the Law

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They were born with their wrong gender as their brains was functioning like other side of sexual feeling of who they are as human beings. They don't think like their own sex as a boy or girl. If a boy think like a girl and want so badly to transfer from the boy to the girl way of thinking and want to transfer his male to female body. So that there will not be any confusion of what people view at her instead of him. With that surgery, it was not possible back then years ago and the boy or girl will not be able to function as a girl or boy to transfer. Now that surgery is possible to help a person who want to transfer from boy or girl to being a girl or boy.

As for going into the bathroom, a transgender don't think about other people whether a woman or man need to go to the bathroom to pee or their own business. They need to go whether you like it or not. Where can they go if there is no Co-ed bathrooms for them to do their own business.

They have a rights to make decisions on their own to who they want to become as human beings.

For example, like babies being born deaf and had been forced to wear CI and we don't approve of having them wearing it too early in their babyhood. We would rather for the babies to wait until they are old enough to understand if they want to have CI for surgery. Surgery is not to be taken lightly that it will be a safe way to have CI put in for the babies. Should let the deaf child decide if they want to have CI or not, but then if the child later decide to have CI. Then that would be the decision of the child, not the parents or the medical community. That is the difference.

For the transgender, going into surgery will help them if they decide to go through surgery to have sex change from their own sex. Beside surgery is a risky business but they seem to come out okay. So let them if they want to go through sex change. No problem. Do not discriminate them because of who they are when their brains are not who they are.

I don't buy the claim of people's brains causing them to act like if they were someone of the opposite sex. People act/look like they are of the opposite sex by choice. This is not relevant to DNA by any means. Just because there's surgery to allow people to have a sex change, it does not mean it is right. If I was a surgeon, I could not according to my conscience perform a sex change operation on a human being.

As for the restroom issue, a transgender might not care what others would think, but that doesn't mean the transgender should ignore the feelings of others. It doesn't matter if there is a coed restroom or not because if they are biologically a male, they can just use the men's restroom. Simple as that.

Like I stated in this thread and many others that I accept people as a person, but I don't condone their actions, especially when they go against nature.


Yes, we have some transgendered members, especially Saavik and most of us support her choice. She wasn't born with man's brain - she has woman's brain that trapped in man's body.

For me, I was born with completely man - man's brain and man's body. I'm proud to be man, known as masculine. I don't like any girly stuff. You know that my sexual orientation is bisexual because I have affection to two genders - man and woman. I accepted that and proud to be bisexual.

You simply indirectly stated that having affection towards both genders is a choice. Having affection towards the same sex is not something intertwined in one's DNA, but a choice.
 

I hope you eventually put away cigarettes because smoking just decreases one's longevity and poses many health risks.

meh

(drags cigarette deeply and exhales slowly)

I am not an authoritarian


really?

as I am just speaking some simple logic. If you are born a male, you are a male period. If you are born a female, you are a female period.

the above statement qualifies you as an authoritarian. you are dictating terms of a persons being. which sex they are and must remain. regardless of what that person feels themselves to be and is.


All you can say are three words, yet you don't give an explanation to as why you think it doesn't. This is why you make weak arguments.

the above statement from you is a weak argument. but if you insist that i hold your hand then here we go
for some people its the most natural thing to do. further. we as a species have been manipulating and changing natures dictates since we first domesticated fire. nothing unnatural in someone wishing to change their sex to be more appropriate to what they themselves are. rather its unnatural to forbid someone to do it

Yes, I am aware coed bathrooms are in existence, but just because it does, it doesn't make it right.


your jokin right?

It is inappropriate for man to see the nakedness of the opposite sex if he is not married to the female and it is true vice versa. Imagine a coed bathroom in which only one female is in there and a man walks in.


is she buck ass naked?

(drags cigarette.....exhales smoke int hes ape of womens breasts....and...)

He could rape that woman. This is one of many reasons why there shouldn't be a coed bathroom or even dormitories.

are you saying some random guy that needs to piss, opens a door to a washroom sees a women and suddenly due to the sight of a women in a washroom rape her?

really?

really?

less time worrying about my weak arguments and more time thinking through yours is in order here
 
I don't buy the claim of people's brains causing them to act like if they were someone of the opposite sex. People act/look like they are of the opposite sex by choice.


who the hell are you to dictate that to anyone? further so what if it is?

This is not relevant to DNA by any means. Just because there's surgery to allow people to have a sex change, it does not mean it is right.

its not your body. who the hell are you to dictate to anyone what they can do to theirs?
thats called being an authoritarian

If I was a surgeon, I could not according to my conscience perform a sex change operation on a human being.

thats you. different strokes for different folks

As for the restroom issue, a transgender might not care what others would think, but that doesn't mean the transgender should ignore the feelings of others. It doesn't matter if there is a coed restroom or not because if they are biologically a male, they can just use the men's restroom. Simple as that.

it shouldnt matter.

Like I stated in this thread and many others that I accept people as a person, but I don't condone their actions, especially when they go against nature.

are all forms of surgery against nature? or is this just a pet project of yours?


You simply indirectly stated that having affection towards both genders is a choice. Having affection towards the same sex is not something intertwined in one's DNA, but a choice.

so?

making choices is so very human

(drags cigarette, inhales, ...exhales)
 
I have to agree with respectyoda on the bathroom part. There is a reason why men and women's bathrooms are separated. For safety reasons mostly. People are vulnerable in bathrooms.

Most men who walk in a bathroom see a woman will not rape her but there are crazy ones out there that will grab that opportunity to do so. Women try not to put themselves in vulnerable situations where she can get raped. A bathroom would be a perfect place to do so.
 
meh

(drags cigarette deeply and exhales slowly)

Do you understand the health risks of smoking? Do you know the damage you are doing to your body? You know...we only live once.

the above statement qualifies you as an authoritarian. you are dictating terms of a persons being. which sex they are and must remain. regardless of what that person feels themselves to be and is.

The statement I made does not qualify me as an authoritarian. I was just simply stating a [known] fact. If you are biologically a male, you are a still male no matter how much you act/look like a female. This is why I was appalled when a transgender was trying to compete in a track event at the Olympics that he wasn't qualified to be a part of due to his DNA that says he is a female.

the above statement from you is a weak argument. but if you insist that i hold your hand then here we go
for some people its the most natural thing to do. further. we as a species have been manipulating and changing natures dictates since we first domesticated fire. nothing unnatural in someone wishing to change their sex to be more appropriate to what they themselves are. rather its unnatural to forbid someone to do it

I didn't make a weak argument. I just stated that you can't say, "I don't agree with this" or "That isn't right/wrong" without expounding on WHY you don't agree or think that way. People may state something is natural to them, but it doesn't mean it was intended to be that way. It is unnatural for people to change their sex because like I said, it goes against nature. In other words, it goes against how their bodies were created. If one was created to be a male, then it makes zero sense to act/like a female. It is akin to trying to make a dog act and think like a cat when that dog is born to be a dog!


Yes, I am aware coed bathrooms are in existence, but just because it does, it doesn't make it right.[/QUOTE]

your jokin right?

I am not joking at all. Just because man decides something is right, it does not mean it is right. For example, if I suddenly decide that 2 + 2 = 5, does that mean I am right? Like I said, it boils down to logic and reason!

is she buck ass naked?

(drags cigarette.....exhales smoke int hes ape of womens breasts....and...)

What a filthy mind! My point is that it is not right to see the nakedness of someone of the opposite sex that you are not married to.


are saying some random guy that needs to piss, opens a door to a washroom sees a women and suddenly due to the sight of a women in a washroom rape her?

You fail to see my point here. With men being able to access a women's restroom, it will only create opportunities for those who do want to rape, molest, or even kill women. That's why there's the wisdom of having separate bathrooms for both genders. The same can be said for coed dormitories. This only enables men and women to have inappropriate relationships and in often cases, women end up being pregnant and the man leaving the woman. I have seen this all too often, especially having been a college student.


I have to agree with respectyoda on the bathroom part. There is a reason why men and women's bathrooms are separated. For safety reasons mostly. People are vulnerable in bathrooms.

Most men who walk in a bathroom see a woman will not rape her but there are crazy ones out there that will grab that opportunity to do so. Women try not to put themselves in vulnerable situations where she can get raped. A bathroom would be a perfect place to do so.

Precisely!
 

You simply indirectly stated that having affection towards both genders is a choice. Having affection towards the same sex is not something intertwined in one's DNA, but a choice.

False, it is not my choice to be affection to man because it was from my brain and I started experience when I was 3 years old. Bisexuality doesn't means indicate that they have choice - depends on how strong is affection. Some bisexuals have little more affection to opposite sex or same sex and some bisexuals have equal experience, so gender isn't much matter to me so I care about is LOVE.

You are grossly incorrect - there is between genes and sexual orientation.

In the 1997 film Gattaca, Ethan Hawke’s character attempts to circumvent the genetic screening that is the basis of contemporary life. When Vincent Freeman (Hawke) is a newborn baby, a routine heel-tap blood test reveals his entire medical future — a rather far-fetched scenario, but one that speaks to concerns about the role of authenticity, science, and technology in today’s fast-paced global environment.

The future is upon us, and the genetic testing being done now can reveal the past as much as it illuminates the future. The first wave of LGBT consumers who embraced it did so to find out about their ancestry. But as testing organizations, particularly 23andMe, the largest and most popular DNA analysis service, grow their databases, consumers are learning many more things about their lives, including which medications they’re likely to have reactions to, whether they have the gene thought to confer immunity to HIV, or — soon — if there’s a genetic root to their sexual orientation.

How it works is simple: Customers buy a saliva kit online at 23andMe.com, send it in, and the company extracts their DNA from cheek cells preserved in saliva. In its labs, 23andMe then copies the DNA many times until there’s enough to be genotyped. Then, says lesbian scientist Emily Drabant, the DNA is examined for tens of thousands of genetic variants linked to various conditions and traits, and within weeks users get more than 100 reports on diseases, more than 50 reports on traits, more than 40 reports on carrier status, and more than 20 for drug response.

Drabant, who has a Ph.D. in neuroscience, joined 23andMe three years ago. “I came on board to manage our Parkinson’s research, which at the time was one of our largest research projects,” she says. Though she works on all brain disease research, including healthy cognitive aging, boxing and head trauma, and Alzheimer’s, she’s proud of the Parkinson’s research in particular, because of the results. “We now have one of the largest cohorts of Parkinson’s patients, genotyped patients, in the world — over 9,000 people with Parkinson’s. And we identified two new genes associated with Parkinson’s, which is really exciting.” By having such a large study group, Drabant says, 23andMe was able to explore the genes versus environment question as it relates to the disease. “Within that, we found that, in the part that’s genetic, we know less than 10% of the genes involved. So I think it’s very exciting that there’s still a lot left to discover.”

Indeed, as LGBT consumers have used 23andMe to obtain their genetic background, they’ve found plenty of information that is specific to their needs, like cancer risks, HIV resistance and likely progression rate, medication complications, whether they’re prone to substance abuse, who their genetic ancestors are, and whether they are carriers for diseases that put children at risk. For soon-to-be biological parents, screening for these factors can cost $1,000 per test at a typical medical lab; with 23andMe, a couple hundred bucks tells you the results of dozens of tests, such as that for Tay-Sachs. The company can even tell you if that double venti latte is likely to give you a heart attack.

“We’ve taken great care to make genetics understandable to a lay audience, because it’s really complicated,” Drabant says. “So one of the ways we try and do it is by using pictures. We often call these the Waldos.” The Waldos are really a pictogram of 100 people with Waldos, so called because of the similarity to the Where’s Waldo? character. A first set of Waldos demonstrates the frequency of the disease or condition in the population, while a second set shows the frequency of the disease in the population with a specific genetic factor. This helps illusrate the impact a genetic factor has on overall risk of a disease. “So if you have increased risk, you have many more Waldos colored in.”

Can Your Genes Explain Sexual Orientation | Advocate.com

Study seeks DNA clues on homosexuality - USATODAY.com

Male Sexual Orientation Genes Identified

I had went thorough conversion therapy and it didn't work at all. I know that bisexuality was from birth, so you were born straight.
 
meh

(drags cigarette deeply and exhales slowly)

really?

the above statement qualifies you as an authoritarian. you are dictating terms of a persons being. which sex they are and must remain. regardless of what that person feels themselves to be and is.

the above statement from you is a weak argument. but if you insist that i hold your hand then here we go
for some people its the most natural thing to do. further. we as a species have been manipulating and changing natures dictates since we first domesticated fire. nothing unnatural in someone wishing to change their sex to be more appropriate to what they themselves are. rather its unnatural to forbid someone to do it

your jokin right?

is she buck ass naked?

(drags cigarette.....exhales smoke int hes ape of womens breasts....and...)

are you saying some random guy that needs to piss, opens a door to a washroom sees a women and suddenly due to the sight of a women in a washroom rape her?

really?

really?

less time worrying about my weak arguments and more time thinking through yours is in order here

Oh yes, it is totally up to you to smoke or not. It is your choice. I'm sure that you already know that cigarette is bad for health but you chose to smoke, despite about consequence.

It is not my thing to tell you to quit because it is your ultimate decision and I don't think it is necessary to tell you that smoking is bad for you, because you already know that and you took risk.

No surprise about respectyoda dislikes homosexuality and transgender, so it is his choice but he should quit judging us and keep words to himself. I know Steinhauer and Reba don't agree about gay marriage or gay lifestyle but they respects us. I don't have much interest to debate with him based on flawed study.

I found your argument is much better.
 
False, it is not my choice to be affection to man because it was from my brain and I started experience when I was 3 years old. Bisexuality doesn't means indicate that they have choice - depends on how strong is affection. Some bisexuals have little more affection to opposite sex or same sex and some bisexuals have equal experience, so gender isn't much matter to me so I care about is LOVE.

You are grossly incorrect - there is between genes and sexual orientation.

There's no correlation between genes and sexual orientation. There was a gay scientist who tried to find genes that are responsible for one's sexual orientation and couldn't find it. If there were twins then by your twisted logic, both would be gay, but that's often not the case! DNA is the blueprint for how we look physically, NOT the blueprint for how your brain functions or how one will act emotionally. If you want to make this argument, then by the same token, you can claim one was born a rapist, murderer, fornicator, adulterer, and so on. A baby is born with a pure mind, hence the baby cannot decide whether it is gay or not. This leaves us with the logical conclusion that one grows up to decide whether or not he/she is gay.

Homosexuality also goes against the concept of reproduction. Two gay people cannot reproduce. This is the very reason why there's a man and a woman. Two genders! If the first two people on Earth were of the same gender and gay, you and I wouldn't be in existence! Did two genders happen by accident? Look at our bodies. Was our bodies an accident? Definitely not! Our bodies are so complex and yet, it proves that we were born to be straight. Homosexuality in conclusion is nothing more than a choice just like you choose what to wear, eat, drive, etc.

You may care about love, but keep in mind there are a lot of types of love that are unnatural.
 
why so authoritarian?

you dont know whats goin on inside any one to make that call....

they do

you DONT


whats it matter to you for anyway?

WOW hoichi.....first time I actually agree with you:giggle:
 

Do you understand the health risks of smoking? Do you know the damage you are doing to your body?


sure do

You know...we only live once.

no we dont

The statement I made does not qualify me as an authoritarian. I was just simply stating a [known] fact. If you are biologically a male, you are a still male no matter how much you act/look like a female.

that fact of yours is based on something that can change


I didn't make a weak argument. I just stated that you can't say, "I don't agree with this or "That isn't right/wrong" without expounding on WHY you don't agree or think that way.


i was just getting started

People may state something is natural to them, but it doesn't mean it was intended to be that way. It is unnatural for people to change their sex

why?

because like I said, it goes against nature.

how do you know natures not for it?

In other words, it goes against how their bodies were created.

so any surgery that alters the human body after birth you are opposed too?

If one was created to be a male, then it makes zero sense to act/like a female. It is akin to trying to make a dog act and think like a cat when that dog is born to be a dog!

why are you comparing human biengs to cats and dogs?

I am not joking at all. Just because man decides something is right, it does not mean it is right. For example, if I suddenly decide that 2 + 2 = 5, does that mean I am right? Like I said, it boils down to logic and reason!

let me get this straight. your using arithmetic to illustrate a point regarding human beings, internal being regarding gender?



What a filthy mind!


no argument here

My point is that it is not right to see the nakedness of someone of the opposite sex that you are not married to.

how much nakedness sis shown in washrooms these days? and further you may believe seeing the nakedness of the opposite sex your not married to is not right.
but thats your religious conviction

mine i love seeing the nakedness of woman. and them me. hell i'm a nudist. and in my early days was a fairly fast streaker when i had a few to many..all in good fun, alas youth is wasted on the young
get together with some close friends and get naked.

have fun

trust me


The same can be said for coed dormitories. This only enables men and women to have inappropriate relationships


yeah the amount of NSFW sex in dorms at gally was awesome.

(drags cigerette, inhales smoke..pauses....exhales smoke in the shape of NSFW nipple clamps.....)

and in often cases, women end up being pregnant and the man leaving the woman. I have seen this all too often, especially having been a college student.[/COLOR]

yeah...
 
There's no correlation between genes and sexual orientation. There was a gay scientist who tried to find genes that are responsible for one's sexual orientation and couldn't find it. If there were twins then by your twisted logic, both would be gay, but that's often not the case! DNA is the blueprint for how we look physically, NOT the blueprint for how your brain functions or how one will act emotionally. If you want to make this argument, then by the same token, you can claim one was born a rapist, murderer, fornicator, adulterer, and so on. A baby is born with a pure mind, hence the baby cannot decide whether it is gay or not. This leaves us with the logical conclusion that one grows up to decide whether or not he/she is gay.

Homosexuality also goes against the concept of reproduction. Two gay people cannot reproduce. This is the very reason why there's a man and a woman. Two genders! If the first two people on Earth were of the same gender and gay, you and I wouldn't be in existence! Did two genders happen by accident? Look at our bodies. Was our bodies an accident? Definitely not! Our bodies are so complex and yet, it proves that we were born to be straight. Homosexuality in conclusion is nothing more than a choice just like you choose what to wear, eat, drive, etc.

You may care about love, but keep in mind there are a lot of types of love that are unnatural.

Your argument is grossly flawed and not all DNA research about sexual orientation came from gay scientists. I had to take Biology and Sociology, so both professors agreed about sexual orientation comes from genes. Homosexuality used to be mental illness until APA removed it in early 1970s, so mental illness, especially bipolar polar, schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, depression, anxiety, schizoaffective are from hereditary, so homosexuality was one of them.

A 'gay Gene?' - Is Homosexuality Inherited? | Assault On Gay America | FRONTLINE | PBS

I don't care about "unnatural" and my religious belief is very different from you, so your religious belief is not compatible with my belief. You need quit to judging me based on my lifestyle and it is none of your business. You and your families are your business, not me, hoichi, Jiro, Mew, Jess, Mark, Derek, Dreamer03, FF and all AD members.

I'm not going waste my time with your flawed argument and you can say whatever you want, but nobody is going follow your argument.

Sexual orientation isn't choice, period and your stance doesn't change me.
 
Got to admit im on your side hoichi. We have had our disagreements in point of vjew. Right now im all for your side.
 
It is appalling and sad when people cannot accept their gender. When a person is born a certain gender and tries to act/look like the opposite gender, this just goes against nature.

Appalling? Your attitude is appalling.
 
There's no correlation between genes and sexual orientation. There was a gay scientist who tried to find genes that are responsible for one's sexual orientation and couldn't find it. If there were twins then by your twisted logic, both would be gay, but that's often not the case! DNA is the blueprint for how we look physically, NOT the blueprint for how your brain functions or how one will act emotionally. If you want to make this argument, then by the same token, you can claim one was born a rapist, murderer, fornicator, adulterer, and so on. A baby is born with a pure mind, hence the baby cannot decide whether it is gay or not. This leaves us with the logical conclusion that one grows up to decide whether or not he/she is gay.

Homosexuality also goes against the concept of reproduction. Two gayi people cannot reproduce. This is the very reason why there's a man and a woman. Two genders! If the first two people on Earth were of the same gender and gay, you and I wouldn't be in existence! Did two genders happen by accident? Look at our bodies. Was our bodies an accident? Definitely not! Our bodies are so complex and yet, it proves that we were born to be straight. Homosexuality in conclusion is nothing more than a choice just like you choose what to wear, eat, drive, etc.

You may care about love, but keep in mind there are a lot of types of love that are unnatural.

Authoritain
 

I hope you eventually put away cigarettes because smoking just decreases one's longevity and poses many health risks.




I strongly suggest you to make one single post in which you make a comment to each of my posts, all for the purpose of avoiding double [or triple, quadruple] posting. I am not an authoritarian as I am just speaking some simple logic. If you are born a male, you are a male period. If you are born a female, you are a female period.



All you can say are three words, yet you don't give an explanation to as why you think it doesn't. This is why you make weak arguments.



Yes, I am aware coed bathrooms are in existence, but just because it does, it doesn't make it right. It is inappropriate for man to see the nakedness of the opposite sex if he is not married to the female and it is true vice versa. Imagine a coed bathroom in which only one female is in there and a man walks in. He could rape that woman. This is one of many reasons why there shouldn't be a coed bathroom or even dormitories.
The bathrooms in businesses can only be used by one person at time . I do not know how the coed bathrooms are setup in dorms. Then I guess you do not watch movies , if you did you might see a naked women you're not married to . And that would "inappropriate" for you.
 
There is a big difference between accepting one as a person and accepting a person for their ways. We do accept everyone as a person, but we shouldn't condone certain ways that go against nature. Like I said in my previous post, those who want to act/look like their are of the opposite sex goes against nature. A person who is biologically a male should never be in a ladies restroom and vice versa.

Haha, and homophones don't want gays in the bathroom cuz they might be checking them out... haha.... jokes on you cuz unless they told you, you probably wouldn't know. You wannause my bathroom be my guest. I don't care what gender you are or want to be just don't kill me. Where is the problem, anyone can rape attack or kill and its the ones you DON'T expect that will get you.....
 

If you surely do then I guess you are okay with having lungs full of tartar and having the possibility of lung cancer among other risks.


no we dont

You haven't said why you don't think we live once. We only have one life to live on this Earth! Sorry to burst your bubble, but we are definitely not cats that have nine lives.

that fact of yours is based on something that can change

What? You are not making sense here. Even though one can change to dress/act like the opposite sex, this does not change the fact that a person is biologically a female or male. There is no point in changing something that one cannot change!

i was just getting started

If you were just getting started then I advise you to take more time in adequately answering questions. It is not like you have to post your answer to a posed question quickly. You can easily take your time to craft out an explanation that was well thought of.



It is unnatural because like I stated earlier, a gender is not something you can change inwardly so there's no point in changing it outwardly if it is still the same inwardly. It is the same as dying one's hair color. That person can claim to be a blonde, but it still doesn't change the fact that the DNA of this person says the hair is naturally brown.


how do you know natures not for it?

This is quite simple to answer. According to nature and biology, a person is born to be one of two genders! Going under the knife or dressing/acting differently for the purpose of changing one's gender goes against nature that defined that person biologically as a male or a female.

so any surgery that alters the human body after birth you are opposed too?

Now, don't put words in my mouth as you must be careful upon interpreting my statements. Surgeries are needful when altering the human body without interfering with how the DNA defines the body. For example, if one is born with three arms, it is okay to cut the arm that is not supposed to be there.


why are you comparing human biengs to cats and dogs?

This is a relevant example because a dog is born with DNA that defines it as a dog. It is the same as a human being as one is born with DNA that defines the being as a male or a female. We cannot change one's DNA in a way that the being would change genders.

let me get this straight. your using arithmetic to illustrate a point regarding human beings, internal being regarding gender?

Like I stated before, I am using various examples of where just because someone claims something, it doesn't mean it is logically true and sound. If I claim 2 + 2 = 5, it doesn't mean this is a logically true and sound statement. The same can be applied to this discussion. Just because man claims it is okay to change genders, it doesn't mean it is right. Think about it. If everyone were to change their gender by dressing/acting differently then what's the point of being born a certain gender? Think about it.


how much nakedness sis shown in washrooms these days? and further you may believe seeing the nakedness of the opposite sex your not married to is not right.
but thats your religious conviction

My point is that there's no benefit in seeing nakedness of others that you are not married to or have no reason to because this can just cause people to have inappropriate thoughts, especially lustful ones.

mine i love seeing the nakedness of woman. and them me. hell i'm a nudist. and in my early days was a fairly fast streaker when i had a few to many..all in good fun, alas youth is wasted on the young
get together with some close friends and get naked.[/QUOTE]

I am sorry to hear that.



yeah the amount of NSFW sex in dorms at gally was awesome.

I am sorry you think like that.

Do you mean you have separate bathrooms for men and women in your house??

This was about coed bathrooms shared by men and women at the same time. Having a bathroom that can be only used by one person is irrelevant to this thread/debacle because of course a man can use a single-user bathroom after a woman comes out of the bathroom.

The bathrooms in businesses can only be used by one person at time . I do not know how the coed bathrooms are setup in dorms. Then I guess you do not watch movies , if you did you might see a naked women you're not married to . And that would "inappropriate" for you.

Of course, it'd be inappropriate to see any degree of nakedness of people in movies, even books and magazines because this is nothing more than filthiness.
 
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