Jesus Wasn't Gods Only Son

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Liebling:-))) said:
I didn't say that we have Gods because I know that there's only one God.

No, I'm not agree that Jesus is a God but Son of God.
Was Jesus there BEFORE the creation was created?
 
Liebling:-))) said:
JW beleive Jesus is son of God like other beliefs.
JWs believe that Jesus is NOT God.
Christians believe that Jesus IS God.
JWs and Christians do NOT believe the same about Jesus.
 
Askjo said:
Was Jesus there BEFORE the creation was created?

That's what JW beleive but I dont.

I beleive Jesus came from God's seed (creation)
 
Reba said:
JWs believe that Jesus is NOT God.
Christians believe that Jesus IS God.
JWs and Christians do NOT believe the same about Jesus.

1. Yes
2. Yes, I learned from Christians around here.
3. Yes but JW is not only one but Catholic, Protestant, etc. who beleive Jesus is son of God.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
I beleive Jesus came from God's seed (creation)
God-the-Father, Jesus-the-Son, and Holy-Spirit, all three, are eternal. That means all three existed forever, together, at the same time, no begining, no end.

Jesus Himself created the Earth and Universe. God did NOT create Jesus because Jesus and God are the same Being.

For a 33-year period, Jesus voluntarily left Heaven to live on Earth. During that time, Jesus lived in a human body. That is called "Jesus Incarnate", meaning Jesus in the flesh (body). He was still the same God Jesus during that time. The same eternal God. The only difference was He was in a human body for that time. He was always still 100 percent God.
 
I recalled that I had a difficult time understand
about God the Father, Jesus the Son, & Holy Spirit
mean the same only One... until
my Mom explained very clearly that it is same thing
as an example when you look
at your father named Bob,
but Bob's father look at Bob as "his own son"
and Bob's sister look at Bob as "her own brother".

Therefore, This same Bob is the same person
with three different perspective relations
"Bob the Father, Bob the Son
and Bob the brother".... Only as an example.
 
New World Translation

The Jehovah's Witnesses use the New World Translation of the Bible. It is a version of the Bible 'translated' by people who were already convinced of the doctrine of the Watchtower Society. Therefore when they would get to a passage which reveals the deity of Jesus (that Jesus is God) they would re-translate it in such a way as to minimize the identity of Jesus.

There are many, many, many examples of this. Let me just point out one huge inconsistency that will, Lord willing, reveal the true nature of this 'translation.'

Christians point out that Jesus is worshipped in the New Testament- we show verses such as Matt. 2:2,11; 14:33; 28:9; John 9:35-38;and Heb. 1:6 to support this. The Watchtower (JW) will admit that people bowed down before Jesus the same way they would to God, but they say that it stopped short of actual 'worship.' In the New World Translation, the Greek word for worship "proskuneo" is translated as "obeisance" ('pay homage to')whenever it is about Jesus, but translated as 'worship' where it clearly refers to GOD. This is something that they had to do KNOWINGLY. They purposely changed the simple meaning of a greek word 'to bow down in worship' to something LESS when it refers to Jesus. Their choice of translations depended completely on their doctrinal view of Jesus, NOT the greek text.

Here is a great site to learn more about the Watchtower and it's dangerous doctrine:
http://www.carm.org/witnesses.htm

Please listen to my heart...I am not condemning people, just false teaching. Jesus hung on the cross and shed His precious blood for every JW on the planet, just like He did for me. His salvation is free and open to all who will call upon Him in repentant faith: "Lord, be merciful to me a SINNER."

He will. Every time. Trust Him as Lord and Savior today.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
I lost my faith to bible now... I realize now that it's authors who wrote different bibles

Yes, there was alot of authors, But God's breath gives life, When God breathed into human authors, He gave life to his word. The Holy Spirit guided the human authors so that their words would be nothing less than the word of God. So the bible is God's word. I'm learning about the bible now, Believe it. LOL!


All scriptures is inspired by God and is usedful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives, It straigten us out and teaches us to do what is right (2 Timothy 3:16)
 
Liebling:-))) said:
I never beleive that Jesus is a God.

Jesus is a son of God, period.

Who made Mary pregnant? Of course GOD! It's him who made her pregnant and give birth to Jesus.


I was wrong, I was just like you at the begin, Confused just like you. Let me tell you something so interesting. Here it is. God gets down to earth, a young couple named Joseph and Mary were engaged to be married, An angel appeared to both of them and said that Mary had been selected by God to be the mother of the Messiah. They were told that God's spirits was inside of her, You see that part of saying God's spirits, Jesus is really God. It proved right there. And that she would give birth to a son to be named Jesus, who would be the Savior of the world.

So, Jesus is really God. ;)
 
Cheri said:
I was wrong, I was just like you at the begin, Confused just like you. Let me tell you something so interesting. Here it is. God gets down to earth, a young couple named Joseph and Mary were engaged to be married, An angel appeared to both of them and said that Mary had been selected by God to be the mother of the Messiah. They were told that God's spirits was inside of her, You see that part of saying God's spirits, Jesus is really God. It proved right there. And that she would give birth to a son to be named Jesus, who would be the Savior of the world.

So, Jesus is really God. ;)
whats your point attachd with jesus is God??

my question for you, Jesus was the son of God. I believe that He was son of God like me as I am child of God?

Result you said: Jesus was God but I aint God? ahhhh interesting this objective topic!


But Let me tell you,
Liebling:-))) said:
I never beleive that Jesus is a God.

Jesus is a son of God, period.
She was right of what she mentioned.. I don't believe that he is God neither... because I read through genesis to revelation for years and years.. I noticed that Jews and disciples claimed that Jesus was the Son of God. They never said that he was God.. get it?

Look at holy scripture: acts 8:37, 9:20, John 1:34, Luke 4:41, Matthew 14:33, 16:16, 8:29......

Those people/ disciples called him title as the son of God, or son of the living God, or the son of most high God.. they never gave him title he is God.. but modern day, those people saying "Jesus is God"!

You wont believe that I AM G-O-D!
 
ckfarbes said:
whats your point attachd with jesus is God??

my question for you, Jesus was the son of God. I believe that He was son of God like me as I am child of God?

Result you said: Jesus was God but I aint God? ahhhh interesting this objective topic!


But Let me tell you, She was right of what she mentioned.. because I read through genesis to revelation for years and years.. I noticed that Jews and disciples claimed that Jesus was the Son of God. They never said that he was God.. get it?

Look at holy scripture: acts 8:37, 9:20, John 1:34, Luke 4:41, Matthew 14:33, 16:16, 8:29

Those people/ disciples called him title as the son of God, or son of the living God, or the son of most high God.. they never gave him title he is God..

You wont believe that I AM G-O-D!

You are NOT God and no body is. Jesus Himself is only GOD... the ONE and ONLY GOD. :)
 
CyberRed said:
You are NOT God and no body is. Jesus Himself is only GOD... the ONE and ONLY GOD. :)
I was thought that you refused to talk to me either as your whole rest for good.. but i am wrong..

my answer is yes that what I believed that I AM GOD! i dont care what kind of things/ words you people thinking of me in that way I am.. you don't know what the specifiy God mean to you.. Look at John 4:24 which most powerful verse you people don't understanding fully completed for your whole life of rest!

I am humble as long as I know it coming where i came from.. because I know him, I am from Him , I am him! i am his coming almighty!
 
ckfarbes said:
You wont believe that I AM G-O-D!
Well, many anti-Christs said, "I am God." Anti-Christ is 666 himself! What about you?
 
ckfarbes said:
my answer is yes that what I believed that I AM GOD!
If you belong to God, you are a CHILD of God, not "God." Who is God? This refers to God the Trinity: God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. If I belong to God, I never say, "I am GOD." But I said, "I am a child of God." See the difference between "children of God" and "God."
 
Askjo said:
If you belong to God, you are a CHILD of God, not "God." Who is God? This refers to God the Trinity: God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. If I belong to God, I never say, "I am GOD." But I said, "I am a child of God." See the difference between "children of God" and "God."

Aren't sons children too? Woud Jesus be a more special son and therefore child of the Father than other people, making him God too?
 
RedFox said:
Aren't sons children too? Woud Jesus be a more special son and therefore child of the Father than other people, making him God too?

You have to remember that Jesus died for all of us on the cross and He purchased us with His Blood to forgive us our sins...so therefore, He is the Son of God. We are sinners and He is not. We don't die on the cross for people, because of our sins. Jesus is sinless.

When we accept Jesus Christ as our personal Saviour, then we are called the "children" of God as God's family ( born-again spiritually ). :)
 
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