It must get tiring!

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CSign said:
Unfortunately you don't seem to understand. Or you're letting your unjustified negative feelings towards me to cloud your critical thinking skills.

SEE is not a language, remember?
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No it isn't. But that point has nothing to do with what I am saying. It does, however, have quite a bit to do with your claim that there were many programs using SEE as the language of instruction.:cool2:
 
deafskeptic said:
Given the cumbersomeness of SEE, PSE is the default for TC.
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Yes. And not even a good representation of PSE. Still uses too many artificial markers and things like tense. None of those are necessary in a visual language.
 
I'm going to do an errand and can get more pancakes....
 
jillio said:
No it isn't. But that point has nothing to do with what I am saying. It does, however, have quite a bit to do with your claim that there were many programs using SEE as the language of instruction.:cool2:
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I never said many programs use SEE as the language of instruction.

I said that there were many programs that use SEE, which is correct.

Stop trying to manipulate the language to suit your needs.
 
CSign said:
I never said many programs use SEE as the language of instruction.

I said that there were many programs that use SEE, which is correct.

Stop trying to manipulate the language to suit your needs.
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:laugh2: Backpedaling again.:laugh2:

You can ride this merry-go-round by yourself today, SEESign. I have a party to attend with my friends.:wave:
 
I ate at Steak n Shake.. (slurping my vanilla milkshake)
 
Babyblue said:
I ate at Steak n Shake.. (slurping my vanilla milkshake)
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Steak and Shake was my son's fav restaurant when he was a teen. I still like it. I love their 1/2 price happy hour for shakes. It is right on my way home!
 
jillio said:
Steak and Shake was my son's fav restaurant when he was a teen. I still like it. I love their 1/2 price happy hour for shakes. It is right on my way home!
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I would go there once in a while when I lived in Charlotte NC. Don't think there's any Steak and Shake here in Lynchburg but i'll check.
 
CSign said:
I never said many programs use SEE as the language of instruction.

I said that there were many programs that use SEE, which is correct.

Stop trying to manipulate the language to suit your needs.
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yes you did say that... by answering her question.

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jillio said:
Yep, I read it. And you are wrong again. It says it right there in the paragraph where it discusses the difference between SEE I and SEE II.

I am still looking for the answer to my question regarding the name of one school that uses SEE I or SEE II as the language of instruction. You claim there are many. Surely out of that "many" you can name just one.:cool2:

Since you can't seem to find it, here you go:

In SEE1, all compound words are formed as separate signs - instead of using the ASL sign for butterfly, SEE1 places the signs for but, er, and fly in sequential order. SEE1 also uses the same sign for all homonyms - the same sign is used to sign blue and blew.

SEE2 was developed by Gerilee Gustason, Esther Zawolkow, and Donna Pfetzing in the early 1970s. As an offshoot of SEE1, many features of SEE2 are identical to that code system. Initializations and grammatical markers are also used in SEE2, but compound words with an equivalent ASL sign are used as the ASL sign, as with butterfly. SEE2 is also used in Singapore. About 75% to 80% of SEE2 signs are either borrowed from ASL or are modified ASL signs. Signing Exact English uses more markers as opposed to Signed English, which uses 14 markers.
As there is no more formal use of SEE1, Signing Exact English is no longer referred to as SEE2, but rather SEE.

So, how about those schools using SEE as their language of instruction, since it is not used formally any longer?
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CSign said:
Oh my goodness. Too funny. Read again Jillio when your head has had a chance to decompress.

SEE I (Seeing Essential English) is no longer used which is why SEE II (Signing Exact English) is now referred to only as SEE. Hence the reason why I said Seeing Essential English was a moot point.

Also, you are just confusing people further with your misperceptions. It clearly states that the sign for Butterfly is the same in ASL as in SEE.

You would like a link to one school that uses SEE?

Ok. Here are two. Enjoy ;-)

Crown Valley Elementary School: Deaf & Hard of Hearing (DHH Program)

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so.... in other word - you're unable to find a single school that uses SEE as the language of instruction, correct?
 
Jiro said:
yes you did say that... by answering her question.

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so.... in other word - you're unable to find a single school that uses SEE as the language of instruction, correct?
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I really feel sorry for some of you. Really.

I provided two links to two different schools that use SEE. Jillio was saying that virtually no schools use SEE. She also requested I provide the name of one, to which I provided two.
 
Jiro said:
yes you did say that... by answering her question.

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so.... in other word - you're unable to find a single school that uses SEE as the language of instruction, correct?
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Bingo!
 
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I feel sorry for kids who are 'receiving' instruction through SEE. It must really be tiring for THEM.
 
CSign said:
I really feel sorry for some of you. Really.

I provided two links to two different schools that use SEE. Jillio was saying that virtually no schools use SEE. She also requested I provide the name of one, to which I provided two.
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Too little, too late. Next time maybe you will go into the discussion a little better prepared.:laugh2:
 
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An anonymous, well-respected member of AD gave me a wedgie. :-0
 
jillio said:
SEE was used in the past. It is not currently used as it was in the 70's. None of the MCEs are. PSE is officially recognized as contact signing.

TC does not use SEE as the language of instruction.
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Just for clarification, what would you call the sign language/method/whatever aspect of TC?

jillio said:
Nope. Not telling Deaf people anything about SEE., except the one that asked a specific quesiton. Am telling a hearing parent that is confused.
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Wasn't referring to you. :) I didn't "attack" only one side......
 
jillio said:
That sucks! They make a great burger and shake! Of course, not the healthiest of menus, but a gal has to splurge every now and then.:giggle:
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I had the mushroom and swiss burger.. they make awesome burgers but crappy fries.. :(

So I just got a burger and a Vanilla shake.. Not good for my waistline but excellent for my tastebuds!! :lol:
 
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