Israel Vows to Expand Gaza Airstrikes as Death Toll Passes 200

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Jiro,

If you thinking you know about everything then ... why not you go to Middle East BY YOURSELF!!!!!!!! go to Baghdad, Iraq or Gaza or Pakistian or Iran or Afghanistan ... when you touch this soil, next 15 mins later ... you already in Hostage by Terrorists then 1 to 2 weeks later ... if Terrorists gave up with Government then they would kill you by cut head! do you want? I know you do not want to die but real life what Middle East look like, Western Civilization want Middle East to get BETTER and make a peace so we teach Muslim to make sure all Muslim MUST accept with our World in 21st Century and respect every person so every person will respect back! there is no more old fashion! no more animals! we don't want to see or hear what Muslim people always do animals over street for all old story, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, make world sick of it!

old fashion is DONE! Today is 21st Century! wake up! all Terrorists MUST gave up or death!

and why would I be in Middle East or a hostile country? and how is our business to tell them to get on with 21st Century? why do we need other civilizations/countries to be modernized? It's their business, not ours. Beside... there are many Muslims living in America and Europe as citizens. They are peaceful. Islam is a peaceful religion.... just like rest of other religions. Like in any other religions - there are religious fanatics who took things too far and violent.

I know everything enough to mind our business and to not meddle with Middle Eastern affairs. Bush just admitted that this Iraq War was a mistake.
 
and why would I be in Middle East or a hostile country? and how is our business to tell them to get on with 21st Century? why do we need other civilizations/countries to be modernized? It's their business, not ours. Beside... there are many Muslims living in America and Europe as citizens. They are peaceful. Islam is a peaceful religion.... just like rest of other religions. Like in any other religions - there are religious fanatics who took things too far and violent.

I know everything enough to mind our business and to not meddle with Middle Eastern affairs. Bush just admitted that this Iraq War was a mistake.

Though you have not accounted for those mindless militant extremists, we are not going to abide by their two main demands: 1) The eradication of Israel and 2) Converting the world to Islam.
 
Arab nations especially Saudi Arabia have programs and clerics to re-educate youths on proper interpretation of Koran to prevent them from joining terrorist groups and suicide bomber programs. and also.. Palestinians are not interested in living in Canada... not USA... not Jordan... not Egypt.. They want to live in where they used to live and that's in Israel.

Here's an interesting side note -

My Mom and her friends told me that when Arab-Muslim saw any Traveller Canadian people in Jerusaelm, many of them did asking too many question about North America's price land? My Mom and her Friends knew it, Arab-Muslim want take World to rules for Only Muslim, you don't get it! Muslim want take all world by Only Muslim, Muslim hate Jewish and Muslim hate Christian and Muslim hate Hindu too! Muslim CANNNNNNNNNNNNNT accept our lifestyle or our freedom or our religious! they just disrespect! (most of them) but few of Arab-Muslim who is smart, not need war, calm down and peace, know how to respect it and I will be happy to respect back too! whoever is disrespect and I will disrespect same thing!

Now you talk about Israel's land, Palestinian already have West Bank and Gaza! Israel do not want take over West Bank and Gaza, Israel don't need them! but Hamas is only one who did start it ..to attacked on Israel is big mistake!

On 18 June 2008 Israel announced a bilateral ceasefire with Hamas which formally began on 19 June 2008. The agreement was reached after talks between the two camps were conducted with Egyptian mediators in Cairo.

Israel been peacefully for 6 months then Hamas did started it to attacked it! Hamas already broke agreement!

Hamas, unlike the Fatah, refused to accept Israel's existence. Hamas is a Terrorists, got it?
 
and why would I be in Middle East or a hostile country? and how is our business to tell them to get on with 21st Century? why do we need other civilizations/countries to be modernized? It's their business, not ours. Beside... there are many Muslims living in America and Europe as citizens. They are peaceful. Islam is a peaceful religion.... just like rest of other religions. Like in any other religions - there are religious fanatics who took things too far and violent.

I know everything enough to mind our business and to not meddle with Middle Eastern affairs. Bush just admitted that this Iraq War was a mistake.

I already said ... Iraq War is illegal war.

I already said ... Israel and Palestinians want peace so badly! Only is HAMAS!!!!!!!! HAMAS IS ONLY ONE WHO DID START WAR!!!! stop racist over Jewish!!! let accept Israel's existence!!!
 
I already said ... Iraq War is illegal war.

I already said ... Israel and Palestinians want peace so badly! Only is HAMAS!!!!!!!! HAMAS IS ONLY ONE WHO DID START WAR!!!! stop racist over Jewish!!! let accept Israel's existence!!!

Yes yes Israelis and Palestinians want peace.... yes yes indeed. but Israelis is not making this any easier for Palestinians to agree with them on peace treaty if IDF is killing many Palestinians civilians. By working with Palestinians... they can remove Hamas for sure but this is not the right way to work with Palestinians to deal with Hamas.
 
USA supports death penalty. Europe does not. Is it our business to tell Europe to use death penalty because it makes country safer by executing dangerous criminals?

I'm sorry to hear about your mom. Sorry but world's not perfect and it's not our place to tell others what to do. I'm very fully-aware of what Middle East is like and what's going in there. I don't like it either but again - it's not our place to make them follow our principles. btw - have you been there?

I never been there, I always been in North America (Canada and USA) that's all in all my own life but one day, I will go to Israel because my mom told me that her friends but her friends mostly (20's) and they want meet me, I was like WTF? Jewish Girl? why not? I don't give a crap about religious but I don't plan to pick Jewish Girl for 100%, nah, I'm perfer I can find one girl who can talk about and discuss about it, share each other, share point of view and opinion, oh well, one day, I will go to Israel, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates for only Dubai and Egypt for only Cairo, sound like awesome but I don't know when? one day, I will surprise it. :D
 
Though you have not accounted for those mindless militant extremists, we are not going to abide by their two main demands: 1) The eradication of Israel and 2) Converting the world to Islam.

Israeli government should keep in mind that those mindless extremists does not run the country. It's the IDF's aggressive response that fueled Palestinians/Arabs' anger which empowered the mindless extremists to "speak" for them. You think Palestinians care about politic? You think they care about who did what? No. No. No. They only care about making some living and bringing food to home. If you make it difficult for them - they will hate you. Stop making Palestinians' lives difficult.

Simple as that. As Sun Tzu said - "A ruler cannot mobilize his armies in a rage; a commander cannot incite a battle in the heat of the moment. Move if it is to your advantage; bide your time if it is not. The enraged and passionate can be restored to good humor, but the dead cannot be brought back to life."

That's how you win the hearts and minds of people.
 
Yes yes Israelis and Palestinians want peace.... yes yes indeed. but Israelis is not making this any easier for Palestinians to agree with them on peace treaty if IDF is killing many Palestinians civilians. By working with Palestinians... they can remove Hamas for sure but this is not the right way to work with Palestinians to deal with Hamas.

perfect then ... remember ... IDF or Hamas did not target over Palestinians civilian because bullet is anywhere! hard to imagine ... if you were on boat when boat's gate open, can see all beach with hill with many bunker with guns! like Saving Private Ryan (Movie) ... I just say ... Bullets is anywhere!

I did not laugh when I see on TV, how many people dead because when I saw on TV News, make me mad at Hamas for broke agreement, Hamas did make World get waste time. I know Palestinians want is ... nice home, have a good job, have a good familys and have a good foods, they been waiting for too long to waiting. I really hate when Public did blames on Israel and USA, I know Israel did not want war and Israel want peace so badly. Only Hamas who not want peace.
 
USA supports death penalty. Europe does not. Is it our business to tell Europe to use death penalty because it makes country safer by executing dangerous criminals?

I'm sorry to hear about your mom. Sorry but world's not perfect and it's not our place to tell others what to do. I'm very fully-aware of what Middle East is like and what's going in there. I don't like it either but again - it's not our place to make them follow our principles. btw - have you been there?

Canada ban Death Penalty since 1970's because This is wrong, If they are criminal killer then they should stay in jail for long time until God order his time up!

If I were killer and they take me to Death Penalty then I will say "Thank You! I have fun time on this Earth, Thank Lord that I am not in cell for bored life, hahahahahaha!" like that! because One World have Two Lifes! First is Human Beings! Second is Ghost Beings!
 
I never been there, I always been in North America (Canada and USA) that's all in all my own life but one day, I will go to Israel because my mom told me that her friends but her friends mostly (20's) and they want meet me, I was like WTF? Jewish Girl? why not? I don't give a crap about religious but I don't plan to pick Jewish Girl for 100%, nah, I'm perfer I can find one girl who can talk about and discuss about it, share each other, share point of view and opinion, oh well, one day, I will go to Israel, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates for only Dubai and Egypt for only Cairo, sound like awesome but I don't know when? one day, I will surprise it. :D

so you never been there? well then.... you don't know Middle East any more than I do... :cool2: I plan on visiting Middle East someday... my former college roommate is a relative of Bahrain's oil ministry family. He's been meaning to invite him over to his mansion. :-o
 
perfect then ... remember ... IDF or Hamas did not target over Palestinians civilian because bullet is anywhere! hard to imagine ... if you were on boat when boat's gate open, can see all beach with hill with many bunker with guns! like Saving Private Ryan (Movie) ... I just say ... Bullets is anywhere!

I did not laugh when I see on TV, how many people dead because when I saw on TV News, make me mad at Hamas for broke agreement, Hamas did make World get waste time. I know Palestinians want is ... nice home, have a good job, have a good familys and have a good foods, they been waiting for too long to waiting. I really hate when Public did blames on Israel and USA, I know Israel did not want war and Israel want peace so badly. Only Hamas who not want peace.

the only reason public and UN are blaming Israel is because they went too far with retaliation and the collateral damage is unacceptable.
 
so you never been there? well then.... you don't know Middle East any more than I do... :cool2: I plan on visiting Middle East someday... my former college roommate is a relative of Bahrain's oil ministry family. He's been meaning to invite him over to his mansion. :-o

My Mom and My Mom's side Familys told me everything how much dangerous in Middle East is, My Mom did been in Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, West Bank, Israel, Gaza and Egypt.

Nice Mansion, Bahrain .... oh yeah, I know where is it but I hope you will love it when you get there ... Bahrain reallllly nice place. :cool2:

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the only reason public and UN are blaming Israel is because they went too far with retaliation and the collateral damage is unacceptable.

Okay, We do still blames on USA Government for drop bomb over 4 of our Canadian Armys killed in Afghanistan in 2002? USA Government don't care and said "This is accident" then World is not a perfect.
 
the only reason public and UN are blaming Israel is because they went too far with retaliation and the collateral damage is unacceptable.

What a hot issue debate here!

Don't you realize that U.N. charters mostly are from muslim states nowadays? Yup! So therefore we shouldn't be surprised a why the U.N. had been attacking Israel especially in last 30 years. Israel holds the most resolutions provided by U.N., the known as an anti-Israel so far. Old news, really.

We cannot deny that the Hamas and Palentines are known the real terrorists as it has proven in the history and still are. They just want to wipe Israel off the map and steal the land from Israelis.

Remember what God told Abraham His promise to judge those who attacks Israel and bless those who support Israel, and it has shown so true for a long time. We need to stay support Israel while try our best to keep Mideast in peace yet it has been awfully tough a task to do!
 
Okay, We do still blames on USA Government for drop bomb over 4 of our Canadian Armys killed in Afghanistan in 2002? USA Government don't care and said "This is accident" then World is not a perfect.

lol on the behalf of United States, I apologize about that. if it's any condolence to you - the pilot was charged with dereliction of duty and he retired. :cool2:
 
lol on the behalf of United States, I apologize about that. if it's any condolence to you - the pilot was charged with dereliction of duty and he retired. :cool2:

Good Try! that why I been waiting for your respond, seem like you did search over the Internet, Good Job.

oh yeah, right then story is old news.

I do understand how you feel about school issus but I do worry is Hamas issus because I don't want to see Hamas to make everything lead to World War III and First Nuclear Strike it .... Jerusalem .... then Second Nuclear Strike it .... Rome .... then all world armys going to Middle East to become Bigger War, I would not like it and I will not accept it, I will not let Nostradamus to win last of story what he saw it in near 500 years ago! I want to see all timeline to change it!

that why I don't want time getting running out of time! if we are too slow then everything will lead to World War III, I'm sure USA do not want, Russia do not want, China do not want, Israel do not want and Arab World do not want.

Only Iran, Hamas and Al-Qeada, they want Earth become Darkness by them! they want show world that Islam can take World Rules and Superpower than USA or Russia or China, I know many Islam who is not terrorists and they just regular people, they do not want war and they perfer peace, same thing Jews do not want war and they perfer peace too! nobody want war, only Iran and Terrorists want war.
 
Good Try! that why I been waiting for your respond, seem like you did search over the Internet, Good Job.

oh yeah, right then story is old news.

I do understand how you feel about school issus but I do worry is Hamas issus because I don't want to see Hamas to make everything lead to World War III and First Nuclear Strike it .... Jerusalem .... then Second Nuclear Strike it .... Rome .... then all world armys going to Middle East to become Bigger War, I would not like it and I will not accept it, I will not let Nostradamus to win last of story what he saw it in near 500 years ago! I want to see all timeline to change it!

that why I don't want time getting running out of time! if we are too slow then everything will lead to World War III, I'm sure USA do not want, Russia do not want, China do not want, Israel do not want and Arab World do not want.

Only Iran, Hamas and Al-Qeada, they want Earth become Darkness by them! they want show world that Islam can take World Rules and Superpower than USA or Russia or China, I know many Islam who is not terrorists and they just regular people, they do not want war and they perfer peace, same thing Jews do not want war and they perfer peace too! nobody want war, only Iran and Terrorists want war.

There you go - you've already listed superpower countries who do not want it... that's more than enough reassurances that nuclear wars or Armageddon or some Nostradamus myth won't ever happen. Believe me - Iran & terrorists are not enough to cause WW-3 if even they tried.
 
point is - the time changed thru history and you can't just reverse the clock back to Day 1. America used to belong to Native Americans. Should we just move out now and give land back to Native Americans? No but the best we can do is to coexist peacefully and fairly. Israelis and Palestinians used to get along together and lived together for quite a while before the UN's Partitions Plan. The great Islamic Empire which ruled entire Europe and Middle East for centuries was very very tolerant to all religions living under Islamic Empire. With all religions coexisting peacefully together... this civilization flourished with great prosperity & peace and a tremendous advancement in all subjects. Many of our tools, navigational knowledge, medical knowledge, scientific/mathematical knowledge, chess, etc. were discovered & invented by them.

I blame Zionists & British for phucking it up. Moral of the story... segregation is always an epic fail. It failed in American history and it will fail in Israel as well.

most of Islamic countries are peaceful and they are interested in only one thing - trades. That's why they are very good at oil businesses and investments.. despite of their "primitive/archaic" lifestyle and laws compared to Western way.
You don't get it. Palestinians don't want peaceful co-existence with Jews. They don't want to live together. They want "death to Israel." They want the country of Israel to disappear, along with the people in it.

Palestinians who supported Hamas made themselves unwelcome in Arab nations. It was their own support for terrorism that got them kicked out of Arab countries. They brought it upon themselves.
 
Why this fuss about "Palestinians"? I can't find Palestine in my atlas, nobody will, and nobody has been able to since 1948.
 
There you go - you've already listed superpower countries who do not want it... that's more than enough reassurances that nuclear wars or Armageddon or some Nostradamus myth won't ever happen. Believe me - Iran & terrorists are not enough to cause WW-3 if even they tried.

Do you want to know the truth of all the history? Islam or Muslim did not birth in Jerusalem or Israel, they do not live there in 5,000 years between 1,000 years ago! Cairo, Egypt or Israel or Lebanon or Turkey or Greece ... under Roman Empire!!!

Islam or Muslim did birth in Saudi Arabia area for long time! Mecca, Sandi Arabia is their TRUE homeland, Islam or Muslim did birth by 632 AD (1,400 years ago)!

Jews really older than Christian but Christian really older than Islam or Muslim!

Muslim or Islam need to learn how to respect another race or religious to live, Muslim or Islam MUST accept with FREEDOM!!! sighing
 
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