Is this right?

She actually understands almost everything we say to her using speech. We The amazing thing with sign as opposed to asl is the fact that she picks up sign alot faster. We soemtimes tell her a word several times for her to "get it". With sign, we show her once or twice and she knows it.
Click to expand...
This is exactly why I think even oral sucesses should learn ASL/Sign as a second language. Visual processing is a STRENGH among dhh kids.
 
Oh and Cloggy, I AM a hoh person. I strongly disagree with your assertain that we hoh (and CI users who can percieve speech with the implant are functionly hoh) are more "hearing then deaf"
I can hear......but I don't hear the way a hearing person hears. I will never know what sound is like, for hearies. Yes, I know that the CI sounds very "nautral", but it's probaly not like what hearing people perceive as sound. We have been pushed towards hearing society, on the assumption that we're more hearing then deaf........that's not always the case.
We are in between..neither fully Hearing, but also not Deaf....there's a quote I have on my AIM profile:
"As a person who is hard of hearing, I'm not always accepted in the hearing world. However, some Deaf people don't accept me because I can speak. Gradually I am finding a place for myself in both worlds." - "I was #87" Anne Bolanger
 
Lillys Dad, you doing fine... It's mainly important to have communicate with her... until you are familiar to understand her as the same as she understand you as well. What you doing is fine...
 
deafdyke said:
Oh and Cloggy, I AM a hoh person. I strongly disagree with your assertain that we hoh (and CI users who can percieve speech with the implant are functionly hoh) are more "hearing then deaf"
I can hear......but I don't hear the way a hearing person hears.....
Click to expand...
CI -users might be hoh but with the possibiltiy to "hear well" or "hear nothing" they make up their own group.
Lotte hears better than my mother-in-law who's hoh and wears a HA. I can whisper to Lotte, she whispers back. She hears well with CI. She hears nothing without it.... (but reads lips)
Sounds to me that your hearing falls inbetween that..

CI-users are put in the hoh category, because they are no longer deaf (in the sense that they can hear) AND because they will never hear the same as a "normal" hearing person....
Well, My experience is that many CI-users hear better than some hearing people.....
 
Well I mean it does vary tremendously.......I'd have to say that I think the MAJORITY of CI'd folks would be classified as hoh.
 
hey lilys dad. I read some more of this. You mention that your daugther doesnt sign exactly what she suppose to say. that is very very normal. My 2 boys goes thru the same thing. nothing is wrong with that because they are learning how to say it in right way. Same concept as baby say "Da" but they mean daddy or dad.. Sometime they say things that didnt come out exactly but close enough. Same thing for sign. Hope that helps.
 
i hate to point this out to Deafdyke and Cloggy. Plese dont aruge about CI.. Just respect Lillys dad.. Hes only here to asksome questions. I understand both of you want to point out some things. Just please remember its just a questino Lillys dad want to ask NOThing to do with CI issuse you both feedback abt
 
Lillys dad said:
All kids have tantrums!LOL

Jilliio, I know we disagree with some of your CI issues, and I respect that. I do tend to agree with Cloggys statement. I know she is still deaf. I have no problem with that. The CI does not "fix" the fact. Besides, I dont want her fixed because there is nothing wrong with her. The fact that she is deaf is just a part of who she is.

I will continue later, I gotta go.
Click to expand...


Yeah, we do disagree with some of the CI issues, and I respect that as well. But perhaps you misunderstood. I was not classifying you with the parents that use CI to "fix" their deaf children. I was actually complementing you on being perceptive enough to understand that deaf with CI is still deaf.
 
jillio said:
......... I was actually complementing you on being perceptive enough to understand that deaf with CI is still deaf.
Click to expand...
Is that really the case...???
People with CI fall in-between hearing and deaf and are in their own niche.
They can choose to be deaf - hearing people cannot do that...
They can choose to hear - deaf people cannot do that....

Will my daughter (4 years old, bi-lateral CI) really know what it is to be deaf ??
 
Lilllydad ya are doin it right i always sign to my boys when they goin thur the same thing ur daughter did.. both boys are deaf but one have autusim and dont sign much maybe 10 signs but he does understand what im talkin about or showmy expression etc
 
Lilly´s Dad
Really, You are doing the right things. I am proud of your kid Lilly. her like to learn, just good! what is of important to communicate. If it has motivation, then remains always so. good luck, I think your kid Lilly are so cute ;)
 
:ty: to everyone, quick question from a beginner. When fingerspelling, is your palm supposed to face the person you are speaking with, or does it face you?
 
Lillys dad said:
:ty: to everyone, quick question from a beginner. When fingerspelling, is your palm supposed to face the person you are speaking with, or does it face you?
Click to expand...

Toward the audience, usually, although some letters face in to the signer (G, H, P). If you look at pictures of the fingerspelling alphabet, it's usually from the perspective of the audience.
 
:ty: That helps! As I was parcticing the alphabet, I noticed some of the letters I was signing faced me, while others were facing away from me.
 
Good Thread Lilly's Dad! I too wonder if I am doing the signs in the right order with Isaac, but he seems to know what I am communicating to him. I think with Isaac it is repitition that counts. If I am serious about Isaac stopping something, I tell him to stop hitting dogs, stop. I don't know if it is right, but he understands. It is so cute to see him sign too. His vocabulary amazes me. He does about 130 signs now and he's only 19 months! Kids pick up on stuff so quickly!
 
Cloggy said:
Is that really the case...???
People with CI fall in-between hearing and deaf and are in their own niche.
They can choose to be deaf - hearing people cannot do that...
They can choose to hear - deaf people cannot do that....

Will my daughter (4 years old, bi-lateral CI) really know what it is to be deaf ??
Click to expand...


Will she ever know what it is to be hearing????
 
jillio said:
Will she ever know what it is to be hearing????
Click to expand...
Why wouldn't she??

Technically: (Wikipedia): hearing is the sense by which sound is perceived.
Hearing, or audition, is one of the traditional five senses and refers to the ability to detect sound. In humans and other vertebrates, hearing is performed primarily by the auditory system: sound is detected by the ear and transduced into nerve impulses that are perceived by the brain.
Click to expand...

And according to my definition, she hears.....

She answers when I call from another room,
She hears the planes fly over our house,
She understands when I whisper,
She hears birds,
She hears the doorbel, telephone, microwave, oven... and knows the difference,
She talks to me on the speakerphone.. understanding it's me,
She passes on messages from us to her siblings,
She sometimes dislikes the sound of the toilet flusing (and takes off her CI for a moment),
She wants to sing songs before going to bed,
She ...... hears.....
 
Yeah, she hears, but it's not the way hearing people hear.
Dhh kids do not and cannot hear the way hearing people hear. We hear......but the way we perceive the sound is different from what you hearing people hear. It's really hard to explain.
I can hear pretty well, but totally not the way hearing do. My idear of sound, is more tactile and visual.
 
deafdyke said:
Yeah, she hears, but it's not the way hearing people hear.
Dhh kids do not and cannot hear the way hearing people hear. We hear......but the way we perceive the sound is different from what you hearing people hear. It's really hard to explain.
I can hear pretty well, but totally not the way hearing do. My idear of sound, is more tactile and visual.
Click to expand...
Like you said yourself... You hear differently, still you hear.
Same with CI.. No matter what they hear, they hear....

If I ask her to repeat "tree", she'll repeat that without problems, correct.
If I would ask a deaf person, it might be distorted because the person is deaf.
If I would ask a hoh person, it might be distorted, because she can hear a little.

How DO hearing people hear?? WHat does it sound in anyones head??
If the microwave does a "pling", I might hear a "plong", you might hear a "plang" but both of us hear the microwave... My daughter might hear a "plung".
Why is her "plung" NOT hearing but your "plang" is hearing?????
 
Back
Top