Is it ever ok for kids NOT to use ASL?

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Byrdie714 said:
And they don't even know geogrpahy! :shock:
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LOL, yep. I remember playing on a text based online game and one girl who was about 15 or 16, asking others what country England was. My jaw just dropped.
 
faire_jour said:
The percentile of the national average on the IOWA tests.
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Then that would be the 10th percentile and the 35th percentile? Because that is quite a different figure than 10% and 35%.

And is that a comprehensive score, or indiviual subtest scores?
 
jillio said:
And you haven't enrolled her why?
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Because I was taught by the Deaf community that a bi-bi school will meet her needs better than a mainstream enviroment with an interpreter. She is a very poor interpreter user, and I wanted her to have free communication between herself and the teacher and her peers. She is only in Kindy, we will be changing her placement, we always intended to eventually. We knew the school wouldn't be able to provide an appropriate education when she was older (not enough students). It is sad, but we think she will have to eventually end up in the mainstream.
 
jillio said:
Then that would be the 10th percentile and the 35th percentile? Because that is quite a different figure than 10% and 35%.

And is that a comprehensive score, or indiviual subtest scores?
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That is the comprehensive score.
 
faire_jour said:
Because I was taught by the Deaf community that a bi-bi school will meet her needs better than a mainstream enviroment with an interpreter. She is a very poor interpreter user, and I wanted her to have free communication between herself and the teacher and her peers. She is only in Kindy, we will be changing her placement, we always intended to eventually. We knew the school wouldn't be able to provide an appropriate education when she was older (not enough students). It is sad, but we think she will have to eventually end up in the mainstream.
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"Have" to, or you "choose" to?
 
Jillio -- how do you do it? I wish I had your debating skills and patience.
 
jillio said:
And where does your school district rate?:cool2:
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Above the state of New York's average which is above the national average. BTW we are one of the top feeder schools for the Ivy League.
 
rick48 said:
Above the state of New York's average which is above the national average. BTW we are one of the top feeder schools for the Ivy League.
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That's a rather vague answer. Got any actual figures?
 
jillio said:
I've produced the empirical evidence time and time again. Just because you choose to ignore it doesn't mean it hasn't been produced.



Your typical response but you never seem to produce it. I am still waiting for the last round of research I asked you for.

Open your eyes and the proof is all around you. The Deaf/deaf have tried to relate their experiences to you over and over again. Unfortuantely, your ears are plugged and your eyes are closed.

Oh, but I have indeed listened to them but actual people who we met and talked to not anonymous people on an internet forum if that is what you are suggesting parents use as the basis for their decisions then I feel sorry for any who follow your advice.

To answer your question: It is quite simple, Rick. ASL provides 100% access to communication, whether the child is deaf of deaf or deaf of hearing. Duh.

Again, how big is that environment? That you cannot answer the question, no excuse me, that you refuse to answer it demonstrates that you know that the answer is that it is a very small environment.


Is your concern what works best for the child, or what works best for the parent? Obviously, what is best for the parent is your primary concern.

Again, that is nothing more than your biased opinon and the typical response of one with no argument: to personalize and attack. We just chose a different path for our child than you, I can accept that each child is different and unique and the success of a child raised differently than mine neither threatens me nor diminishes the success achieved by my child.

Sorry that you are so threatened by children raised with oral language as their primary mode of communication but if you want to be a part of the deaf community then you better learn to accept them because they are coming in waves.
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:)
 
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