Iran will do military exercise on how to close Strait of Hormuz

[DeafCaroline]

That's because I am waiting for them... You can rave all day about what is wrong with a democracy, but you have not answered the question of what is better than a democracy.

Nothing wrong with democracy. But to invade and force your own political ideology onto society is something else.

jillio didn't say there's anything wrong with democracy - you did. She said to launch wars and force it upon other nations is "the American way".

And she's right.

 

[jillio]

Whenever you are ready...

You are going to have to demonstrate some comprehension of the posts already made. You have yet to do that. You don't even understand that your questions have already been answered. If there is something you would like to discuss based on the answer given, then please let me know what that might be.

 

[DeafCaroline]

And, a beautiful history major at that.

Are you saying that Truman's endorsement of Israel was not a factor?

Not a factor in what?

 

[jillio]

Nothing wrong with democracy. But to invade and force your own political ideology onto society is something else.

jillio didn't say there's anything wrong with democracy - you did. She said to launch wars and force it upon other nations is "the American way".

And she's right.

Exactly. And to the question of "what is better than democracy" I replied, "It depends on the culture." Evidently, he is not understanding the answer nor the implications of that answer.

 

[VacationGuy234]

Not a factor in what?

The creation of the Jewish State.

And yes, Jillio, I thought you might...

 

[jillio]

The creation of the Jewish State.

And yes, Jillio I thought you might...

You thought I might what? You seem to be partial to using partial phrases that don't communicate your full meaning.

 

[DeafCaroline]

The creation of the Jewish State.

And yes, Jillio I thought you might...

Of course US involvement in the creation of Israel is a factor. Where did I say it wasn't?

 

[VacationGuy234]

Of course US involvement in the creation of Israel is a factor. Where did I say it wasn't?

Well, the absence of it seemed to point in that direction. I stand corrected.

I'll let you and kokonut hash that out...

 

[DeafCaroline]

I'll let you and kokonut hash that out...

Oh joy.

 

[kokonut]

Whenever you are ready...

See what I mean?

 

[VacationGuy234]

See what I mean?

Take heart, they really are a lot of fun..

 

[jillio]

See what I mean?

From the man who doesn't even know what he means the majority of the time. He has to wait for someone else to tell him.

 

[kokonut]

Take heart, they really are a lot of fun..

Loads!

 

[jillio]

Loads!

Like you would have a clue! Vacation Guy is at least able to keep up a conversation with us in his own words. You can't carry on a conversation without posting copies and pastes. LOL

 

[saywhatkid]

Maybe we can ask nicely to Iran if they are making nuclear weapons and allow nuclear inspectors unfettered access and visit their nuclear facilities? That worked pretty well when Obama asked nicely to have their drone back.

It also worked well when W Bush asked Iraq for those same allowances. He attacked, and we are still there. If Obama attacks Iran, using the same timeline, will you support him? Or should he hold off until after election 2012?

See what I mean?

Still waiting...

 

[kokonut]

Still waiting...

Still waiting until Iran gives full unfettered access to their nuclear facilities if it's just for peaceful means (i.e. electrical generation).

 

[kokonut]

Still waiting...

Oh, if the U.S. can get the approval from the U.N. Security Council to go ahead and give the green light for force in Iran. Sure.

 

[Jiro]

I would really love to hear their view and reasons as well.

it's no brainer. their view and reason are 100% opposite of what you said. they do not support Zionists. they too do wish to live in peace with Muslim people like what ancestors did for thousands of years.

 

[Jiro]

Really, I take it they are not Zionist?

correct.

Are your friends from Israel?

some are. some aren't.

I know there are Jewish people who do not believe in Zion, but they actually believe the state could exist under other rulers such as when the Romans ruled those lands?

what kind of question is that?

I stand corrected if the Jewish people do not believe Israel was created because of the Jewish people and should be ruled by the Jewish people.

therefore aliens.

Would it be OK with your friends if say the President of Iran, for example, ruled Israel? And, would they feel that the state of Israel exist as a Jewish State if this were the case?

huh? why are you asking this kind of nonsense gibberish?

I'm very interested in this.

Why are you interested in something illogical and fallacious? None of your questions make any sense at all.

 

[Jiro]

To think about democracy IS to think about the people in those countries. But I have not failed to notice, you have not answered my question.

why do you believe democracy can work in any country? Afghanistan and Iraq were "liberated" by Americans. Americans gave them "democracy".

what do you think how it's going in there? beautiful?