Iran to send warships near U.S. Border

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Secretblend said:
Well, lets be carefull here. Look at USA when it started.. England was where we are today and USA then is where Iran is and we defeated them.


Just never know.

Also it's not just Iran, if something happens, other countries might and probably will come to Iran defense. Would be kinda hard to fight them all together while dealing with other 2 wars ( one really since we are supposed to be pulling out of Iraq soon.)
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During the UN assembly, when Iranian President started talking, there was a mass walk out.

Walkout at U.N. as Ahmadinejad speaks - CNN
 
Secretblend said:
True but that was politics.. War once it gets going is not all politics. True feelings and etc will come out.
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Yes, you are right. But .... wouldn't their actions be considered an act of aggression by the UN?
 
Heck, me and my Coleman canoe can...........nevermind :io:
 
Steinhauer said:
Yes, you are right. But .... wouldn't their actions be considered an act of aggression by the UN?
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Just to clarify, You mean Iran's action?

if so, depends on how close they get to "border" and what they do while near the "border" .

I don't put much stock in UN anyways since they are even worse politically wise than D.C. is..But that's MY opinion.
 
Tousi said:
Looky, Steiny! I got a mess of ball bearings from one of your motorcycle cadavers fer dat slingshot!!
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Sounds like a plan! We can meet them out on the open water at high noon!

(I don't actually know what high noon means .... ) :giggle:
 
It sounds like some of you are crapping bricks.
 
Secretblend said:
Oh? How so?

Also where did I even mention Vietnam?
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Well, the difference in strength comparison between the present United States and Iran is far, FAR larger than the strength comparison between 18th century American colonists and the British Empire.

Modern technology and war science is much different than it was 200 hundred years ago, 20 years ago, or even 10 years ago. Geography, climate, etc. no longer offer the same advantages in modern warfare. The U.S. Army has done a good job at figuring out how to get around all of that.

I brought up Vietnam because it is another David vs. Goliath analogy, and we didn't win that one. But like I was saying, even since Vietnam, our military capabilities have increased 10-fold while the rest of the world's has not.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Well, the difference in strength comparison between the present United States and Iran is far, FAR larger than the strength comparison between 18th century American colonists and the British Empire.

Modern technology and war science is much different than it was 200 hundred years ago, 20 years ago, or even 10 years ago. Geography, climate, etc. no longer offer the same advantages in modern warfare. The U.S. Army has done a good job at figuring out how to get around all of that.

I brought up Vietnam because it is another David vs. Goliath analogy, and we didn't win that one. But like I was saying, even since Vietnam, our military capabilities have increased 10-fold while the rest of the world's has not.
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But you have to admit anything can happen for whatever reason.. All the world power have always gone down and disapper in history.. It'll be our turn sooner or later..
 
Secretblend said:
But you have to admit anything can happen for whatever reason.. All the world power have always gone down and disapper in history.. It'll be our turn sooner or later..
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lol.... trust me - nothing's gonna happen. Look at North Korea. nothing happened. just a naughty little boy playing with match.
 
Secretblend said:
But you have to admit anything can happen for whatever reason.. All the world power have always gone down and disapper in history.. It'll be our turn sooner or later..
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True, but I think we'll drag the rest of the world down with us first.
 
Jiro said:
lol.... trust me - nothing's gonna happen. Look at North Korea. nothing happened. just a naughty little boy playing with match.
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I disagree.. It'll be more of USA destroying it self I think.. but anything can happen..
 
Steinhauer said:
Doesn't Iran have ballistic nukes now?
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No, Iran does not have ballistic nukes. They don't even have nukes.

They do, however, have an nuclear power plant. The Iranians claim it's for peaceful purposes. Which is very possible, since lots of countries have nuclear power plants for peaceful purposes.

The West fears that Iran wants to use nuclear power waste material to make nuclear weapons. Iran claims that they won't do this.

It doesn't appear that there is any evidence of intent to make weapons.

But who knows?

Iran floating a ship in international waters is hardly a concern. The US spends more than half of all military spending in the world. We can easily squash a single boat like a bug. We could squash the entire Iranian Navy in an afternoon.

But you know the news media will play this up for sensationalist value. Looks like some people here have bit the media lure, too.

I mean, really, "nuking Iran"? C'mon.

Get some perspective. We, the USA, are king of the hill. Nuking a country would be committing genocide.

Now to return to your regular scheduled programming...
 
Watertown Daily Times | Iran’s nukes


The U.N. nuclear agency report citing evidence that Iran is working on nuclear weapons is not surprising.

A stream of intelligence suggests that Iran is working secretly on a nuclear payload for a missile and other parts of a nuclear weapons program.

The International Atomic Energy Agency said it is receiving evidence that is credible, “extensive and comprehensive.”In short, the agency has become “increasingly concerned.”
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Again, Iran does not have nukes.

There is suspicion that they may be "working on" nukes.

This does not constitute proof.

Remember, prior to the invasion of Iraq, the news media and American intelligence were banging the drum saying that Iraq was ready to launch attacks with weapons of mass destruction.

In all our years occupying that country, no such weapons, chemical, nuclear or otherwise, have ever been found.

So much for "solid intelligence" on Iraq.

The news media even hyped up a supposed connection between Saddam and Al-Queda. No such connection existed, and the secular government of Saddam and Al-Queda were enemies.

Be very careful trusting information about Iran. I, of course, cannot rule out the possibility that Iran is working on a nuclear weapon. But we have been fooled before by our own government.

Don't be a sucker.

They've been drumming the war drum against Iran since Bush II. Obama's administration continues the drum beat.

They've been saying that an Iranian nuclear weapon is "two years away" since at least 2003. It's 2011 now and they are still saying "just two years away".

Something is fishy here.

Be very careful with what you read.
 
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