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[somedeafdudefromPNW]

I can certainly say... it's the first time I ever seen a follower of Judaism reject the word "Jew."

It's not the same thing as the deaf/Deaf/hard-of-hearing/hearing impaired though.

 

[whatdidyousay!]

I know a couple people who are Jewish, and none of them have ever expressed disliking of the word "Jew". I think it depends on the person, so I do not think that you should be getting angry with someone for not knowing of your disliking of the word. I am sure that Reba did not intend to offend you as she most likely did not know you were Jewish.

That is just my point! The person that use the word "JEW" DOES NOT
know me and she is not Jewish! I think Reba is able to speak for herself!
I wrote inmy my post that "OUR Rabbi" would not marry my sister . I think that should be clear enough that I am Jewish! loghead you're not Jewish and I am not your friends! Reba does not have the liberty to call my sister or me a Jew!

 

[whatdidyousay!]

I can certainly say... it's the first time I ever seen a follower of Judaism reject the word "Jew."

It's not the same thing as the deaf/Deaf/hard-of-hearing/hearing impaired though.

souggy you're Anti Semitic!! I have been call a "Jew" and believe me it was not meant to be nice! It the same as calling a Black person the "N" word! And just how many Jewish people do you know!!
And I guess you never heard people say " I Jew then down!" when they got some good deal ! That is Anti Semitic !

 

[whatdidyousay!]

Just FYI:

from dictionary.com:

Jew⋅ish
  /ˈdʒuɪʃ/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [joo-ish] Show IPA
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–adjective
1. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of the Jews or Judaism: Jewish customs.
2. Informal. Yiddish.

Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2009.

Usage Note: It is widely recognized that the attributive use of the noun Jew, in phrases such as Jew lawyer or Jew ethics, is both vulgar and highly offensive. In such contexts Jewish is the only acceptable possibility. Some people, however, have become so wary of this construction that they have extended the stigma to any use of Jew as a noun, a practice that carries risks of its own. In a sentence such as There are now several Jews on the council, which is unobjectionable, the substitution of a circumlocution like Jewish people or persons of Jewish background may in itself cause offense for seeming to imply that Jew has a negative connotation when used as a noun.



Just like I said.

You will never get it as you're not Jewish! You do not ask someone you do do not know if they're a Jew! You could ask the wrong person one day and find yourself flat on the ground! I do not give a FUCK what that thing said that you posted! There is time and place to use the word 'Jew' and you did not do that ! I would be fine with a Jewish person asking me if I was "Jew "
but not a gentile!

 

[Jiro]

souggy you're Anti Semitic!! I have been call a "Jew" and believe me it was not meant to be nice! It the same as calling a Black person the "N" word! And just how many Jewish people do you know!!
And I guess you never heard people say " I Jew then down!" when they got some good deal ! That is Anti Semitic !

so in your case - you were called "Jew" in a very racist way. Shame on them. But many of us used "Jew" in a non-racist way because it is a correct term. I have many Jewish friends and I live very close to Jewish community. It's pretty much everywhere around here. Since you do not like that word... what can we say for you in a noun form?

Jewish is the adjective word. Judaism is the name of religion. and what about noun form for a Jewish person? what is it?

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

souggy you're Anti Semitic!! I have been call a "Jew" and believe me it was not meant to be nice! It the same as calling a Black person the "N" word! And just how many Jewish people do you know!!
And I guess you never heard people say " I Jew then down!" when they got some good deal ! That is Anti Semitic !

Like I said, you would be the first follower of Judaism, online or in real life, I have known that reject the word "Jew."

I don't appreciate being called anti-Semitic, by the way, considering I almost converted to Islam three years ago.

 

[Jiro]

You will never get it as you're not Jewish! You do not ask someone you do do not know if they're a Jew! You could ask the wrong person one day and find yourself flat on the ground! I do not give a FUCK what that thing said that you posted! There is time and place to use the word 'Jew' and you did not do that ! I would be fine with a Jewish person asking me if I was "Jew "
but not a gentile!

then it is you who have a problem with the term "Jew". You need to get it resolved. Like I said - this Jewish person didn't have a problem with my question - "You Jew?" that I asked couple days ago.

what if you got mad at this person who asked you if you're "Jew" and you didn't know he's Jewish? Please get it resolved. Speak to your Rabbi.

 

[jillio]

You will never get it as you're not Jewish! You do not ask someone you do do not know if they're a Jew! You could ask the wrong person one day and find yourself flat on the ground! I do not give a FUCK what that thing said that you posted! There is time and place to use the word 'Jew' and you did not do that ! I would be fine with a Jewish person asking me if I was "Jew "
but not a gentile!

I am Jewish, and have never objected to being identified as "Jew." I am also black, and I don't object to that term, either. I also am Irish on my father's side, and have never found "potato eater" to be particularly offensive either.

 

[Bottesini]

then it is you who have a problem with the term "Jew". You need to get it resolved. Like I said - this Jewish person didn't have a problem with my question - "You Jew?" that I asked couple days ago.

what if you got mad at this person who asked you if you're "Jew" and you didn't know he's Jewish? Please get it resolved. Speak to your Rabbi.

Jew too! You can ask me anytime. (although I married a Christian so we are very mixed now.)

 

[Bottesini]

Like I said, you would be the first follower of Judaism, online or in real life, I have known that reject the word "Jew."

I don't appreciate being called anti-Semitic, by the way, considering I almost converted to Islam three years ago.

an·ti-Sem·ite (ān'tē-sěm'īt', ān'tī-)
n. One who discriminates against or who is hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews.
an'ti-Se·mit'ic (-sə-mĭt'ĭk) adj.

THis may get locked as I explain religion to you, but it is likely that a potential convert to Islam would be anti-semitic.

 

[Jiro]

Jew too! You can ask me anytime. (although I married a Christian so we are very mixed now.)

exactly. If you ask whatdidyousay if he's a "Jew" and he blasted you for being anti-Semitic for saying "Jew" (while he didn't know you're Jewish).... That is not right. This is not a time or place to get angry at people for asking you if you're a "Jew" in non-racist tone.

That's why I think he should apologize to Reba and Souggy.

 

[Bottesini]

exactly. If you ask whatdidyousay if he's a "Jew" and he blasted you for being anti-Semitic for saying "Jew" (while he didn't know you're Jewish).... That is not right. This is not a time or place to get angry at people for asking you if you're a "Jew" in non-racist tone.

That's why I think he should apologize to Reba and Souggy.

Agreed!

 

[Bottesini]

souggy you're Anti Semitic!! I have been call a "Jew" and believe me it was not meant to be nice! It the same as calling a Black person the "N" word! And just how many Jewish people do you know!!
And I guess you never heard people say " I Jew then down!" when they got some good deal ! That is Anti Semitic !

No it is not!! "Kike" is the word you want for that. I would get mad at that word too.

 

[jillio]

No it is not!! "Kike" is the word you want for that. I would get mad at that word too.

Agree 100%.

 

[Jiro]

No it is not!! "Kike" is the word you want for that. I would get mad at that word too.

You know - I never knew how was that word formed.

unrelated tidbit... "Gook" - a derogatory term for Koreans (and also other Asians especially Vietnamese) was formed in Korean War. "Hanh-gook" is the korean word for "Korea" and that's how American soldiers coined it for NK soldiers..... and then later it was used in Vietnam War for Vietnamese soldiers as well. Chink is for Chinese people. Gotta love American's colorful (yet negative) terms for each race. It fascinated me to how they come up with it.

N-word - because of African countries called Niger and Nigeria.

 

[Bottesini]

You know - I never knew how was that word formed.

unrelated tidbit... "Gook" - a derogatory term for Koreans (and also other Asians especially Vietnamese) was formed in Korean War. "Hanh-gook" is the korean word for "Korea" and that's how American soldiers coined it for NK soldiers..... and then later it was used in Vietnam War for Vietnamese soldiers as well. Chink is for Chinese people. Gotta love American's colorful (yet negative) terms for each race. It fascinated me to how they come up with it.

N-word - because of African countries called Niger and Nigeria.

One explanation is that the word kike originates from the word
"keikl", in Yiddish, which means "circle". At Ellis Island, one of
the main immigration checkin points, immigrants were intially
grouped by religion and language in order to make it easier for
them to communicate with each other and also to be identified more
quickly by waiting relatives there to meet them. Christians were
marked off with an 'X' which was likely really supposed to be a
cross; Jews were marked with a circle which was really likely
supposed to be the Star of David. It is easy to see how the staff
could become sloppy at drawing these symbols as 'x' and 'o'. The
word "keikl" was used by the Jews making fun of the poorly drawn
star; they referred to each other as being 'circles'.
Unfortunately, from this innocent usage, the term aquired a
derogatory meaning.
Robert L. Chapman's "Ameri


Read more: Question 19.13: What is the origin of the word "kike"?

Question 19.13: What is the origin of the word "kike"?

 

[dogmom]

oh boy.....

<below just talking about me and my own family>
my folks and myself have all been targets of anti-Semitism, including my mother involved in a conversation which that phrase "Jew someone down....." was used; my dad and his family went when he was kid to Texas due to health reasons related to his sister and they ran into both Klan and Nazis and didn't stay - maybe if there hadn't been any kids involved my Bubbie and Zayde would have stayed, don't know. None of us personally reject the word "Jew" used in a way that to us is plainly not meant to be hurtful....although yes, I do get a this kinda "gut reaction" concern if someone who I know is not Jewish, says "Jew" without any obviously positive connotations - however, then I think - where is that coming from? what can I ask or know before I say that person is anti-Semitic? Is the anti-Semitism really true?

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

Actually the "N-world" didn't come from "Nigeria" or "Niger."

It's a corruption of the word "negro," the Iberian (Spanish/Portuguese) word for "black."

And guess who controlled the slave trade? The Portuguese!

 

[Reba]

That is just my point! The person that use the word "JEW" DOES NOT
know me and she is not Jewish! I think Reba is able to speak for herself!
I wrote inmy my post that "OUR Rabbi" would not marry my sister . I think that should be clear enough that I am Jewish! loghead you're not Jewish and I am not your friends! Reba does not have the liberty to call my sister or me a Jew!

I'm sorry if I offended you. You are the first person that has been offended for being called a Jew by me. I have had Jewish friends for more than 45 years, and none have ever said that they didn't want to be called Jews. Since you mentioned a Rabbi, I assumed the people for whom he would be performing weddings would be Jews, not Gentiles, not Christians, not Muslims, not Hindus, etc. That's why I asked.

Can you please tell me why you find the word "Jew" so offensive?

 

[Reba]

souggy you're Anti Semitic!! I have been call a "Jew" and believe me it was not meant to be nice! It the same as calling a Black person the "N" word! And just how many Jewish people do you know!!
And I guess you never heard people say " I Jew then down!" when they got some good deal ! That is Anti Semitic !

When the word Jew is used in the proper context it shouldn't offend anyone.

The proper context is to use Jew as a noun. The improper, and offensive way to use it is as you described the verb "to Jew down", or as a modifier such as "Jew lawyer." That would be insulting.

Of course any name would be offensive if someone is yelling it in a derisive way.

People who are NOT anti-Semitic and NOT implying any insult, are proper in using the word Jew to identify someone.

The word "Jewish" is a modifier, not a noun, so it can't be used to identify a person.

I never use the word Jew as a way to offend someone.

It's very sad that anti-Semitic people have misused a beautiful word in their hateful way. It's even sadder if we let them win.