Interesting experience last night

[Jiro]

Jiro, I think you are the dependent person who need someone to interpret for you wherever you want to go like restaurant or other public places. You are just a baby. :P

yes please

 

[Bebonang]

So, my family went to a birthday party for one of my daughter's friends last night. My husband and I were the only hearing people at the party. There had been some kind of mix up with the reservation (we were at a Chucky Cheese type buisness) and they were writing back and forth, trying to figure it out. At the same time the employee said "Wait a minute, we have someone who signs..." and goes off to find that person. (We all, of course, roll our eyes because that means that someone here once learned how to fingerspell from Sesame Street) So, the mom said again, "No, let's just write and finish this".

So, we finally get everything settled and into our party room. They write on the wipe board "If you need anything, let us know". So, the party goes on, and the board works well, they get soda and pizza, kids are having a good time. About an hour later, the party host figures out I can hear :roll: She walks up to me and says "Can you ask them if they want the pizza boxed up?" and I say back "Yeah, you can write that and she'll answer you." The party host looked dumbfounded, but wrote it on the board.

The mom and I just laughed! I am sure the poor 15 year old has no idea why I wouldn't speak and make this easier for her, but if the mom had wanted me to interpret, she would have asked me (she has in the past) and really, she grew up totally oral, so if she had wanted to speak, she would have done it herself!

Now you are learning about the deafness whether sign or oral. Bravo, you did the right thing. Yes, that is what we want to be independent on our own. The Mom was trying to make plan for the party and want to order the pizza for the kids and adults which they are the guests. If the Mom want to ask you to interpret for her to explain to the party manager or waitress (host is the Mom and at the Chucky Cheese restaurant is the manager who take order for the pizza). Then you can interpret to the Mom from what the manager or the waitress want to ask about the pizza instead of writing on the board. It is good that she did not ask for you to interpret if she thinks that she can handle the ordering for the party members. I love it when you tell us the story about that. Thank you, Faire_Joure. It is about time. Now we are getting somewhere.

 

[DDU]

faire, that happens a lot with me. someone tries to go around me and talks to someone who can hear instead of communicating with me. i get pissed off inside, but deal with it. cant really blame people sometimes, they will loo for the easy way out. you educated one more person in how they should deal with any HC.

 

[rain]

So, my family went to a birthday party for one of my daughter's friends last night. My husband and I were the only hearing people at the party. There had been some kind of mix up with the reservation (we were at a Chucky Cheese type buisness) and they were writing back and forth, trying to figure it out. At the same time the employee said "Wait a minute, we have someone who signs..." and goes off to find that person. (We all, of course, roll our eyes because that means that someone here once learned how to fingerspell from Sesame Street) So, the mom said again, "No, let's just write and finish this".

So, we finally get everything settled and into our party room. They write on the wipe board "If you need anything, let us know". So, the party goes on, and the board works well, they get soda and pizza, kids are having a good time. About an hour later, the party host figures out I can hear :roll: She walks up to me and says "Can you ask them if they want the pizza boxed up?" and I say back "Yeah, you can write that and she'll answer you." The party host looked dumbfounded, but wrote it on the board.

The mom and I just laughed! I am sure the poor 15 year old has no idea why I wouldn't speak and make this easier for her, but if the mom had wanted me to interpret, she would have asked me (she has in the past) and really, she grew up totally oral, so if she had wanted to speak, she would have done it herself!

Honestly, I read this and you come across as snide and rude. Not to mention, the whole "eye-rolling" moments in your post just solidify the fact that you're probably not a very pleasant person to be around.

As opposed to laughing and rolling your eyes at the "poor 15 year old", who's clearly trying to do their job, perhaps you could have responded to her question with something other than your callous "Yeah, you can write that and she'll answer you."

 

[Bottesini]

Honestly, I read this and you come across as snide and rude. Not to mention, the whole "eye-rolling" moments in your post just solidify the fact that you're probably not a very pleasant person to be around.

As opposed to laughing and rolling your eyes at the "poor 15 year old", who's clearly trying to do their job, perhaps you could have responded to her question with something other than your callous "Yeah, you can write that and she'll answer you."

It's something deaf people and their friends and family go through a lot. After a lifetime, it gets tiresome.

Maybe you should get a few years of experience in the deaf community out in the public before you pass judgment.

 

[faire_jour]

Honestly, I read this and you come across as snide and rude. Not to mention, the whole "eye-rolling" moments in your post just solidify the fact that you're probably not a very pleasant person to be around.

As opposed to laughing and rolling your eyes at the "poor 15 year old", who's clearly trying to do their job, perhaps you could have responded to her question with something other than your callous "Yeah, you can write that and she'll answer you."

No matter what I do, even when I'm right, people manage to find fault with me.

 

[faire_jour]

It's something deaf people and their friends and family go through a lot. After a lifetime, it gets tiresome.

Maybe you should get a few years of experience in the deaf community out in the public before you pass judgment.

Love your quote at the bottom Bott! Mine would say "You find fault with 99% of the time, and I'm pretty sure I know why!"

 

[rain]

It's something deaf people and their friends and family go through a lot. After a lifetime, it gets tiresome.

Maybe you should get a few years of experience in the deaf community out in the public before you pass judgment.

Wait, what? She was asked a question, I don't care if she's been asked it a thousand times before, that doesn't give her the right to be rude about it.

I mean, I use to work at Best Buy and do you know how many times I'd get asked the same, repetitive, "stupid" questions? I didn't respond to customer #4571 by rolling my eyes and laughing at them like some pretentious teenager.

 

[rain]

No matter what I do, even when I'm right, people manage to find fault with me.

It's funny, you think you're "right" because a bunch of your internet friends tell you so. What I'm telling you, as someone who doesn't know you or your personality, is you came across as a rude and snide customer.

You are the worst kind of person to deal with in the customer-service industry, I just wish I believed in karma.

 

[naisho]

I think it's just quick to pass judgment about how she described the experience for the "sucky ASL person". I mean I can see basis of the argument and how others would feel offended, but read more of FJ before making sure that's the position you want to perceive from her. Then again I can be a sucky ASL person.

As for the topic, I had similar experiences in LV where lots of interactions were done by the deaf with the hearing. Restaurants, hotels, etc.. Sometimes I felt an urge to go up and ask if they wanted any help because it looked like it was taking more time than necessary, the hearing were like "what" or "What do they want?". Or if we were lost, instead of spending time trying to write it on pen and paper I would just straight up ask, 10 seconds compared to a minute or two.

I think the best thing I learned about that trip was to have patience with them dealing with the hearing public. It was a good experience all in all.

 

[DDU]

faire, you are hearing ! therefore in a deaf forum you are wrong. rofl

 

[Bottesini]

Wait, what? She was asked a question, I don't care if she's been asked it a thousand times before, that doesn't give her the right to be rude about it.

I mean, I use to work at Best Buy and do you know how many times I'd get asked the same, repetitive, "stupid" questions? I didn't respond to customer #4571 by rolling my eyes and laughing at them like some pretentious teenager.

It's funny, you think you're "right" because a bunch of your internet friends tell you so. What I'm telling you, as someone who doesn't know you or your personality, is you came across as a rude and snide customer.

You are the worst kind of person to deal with in the customer-service industry, I just wish I believed in karma.

If you read that over, you will find no mention of eye rolling. That emoticon tells us she was disappointed at being caught and singled out as hearing.

You are completely missing the point. She did a little education there in letting the staff know that deaf people can deal on their own with customer service.

You don't understand it is really bad manners for someone to jump in and handle interactions like that.

It isn't all about making customer service feel happy. More training would be good. But if the business doesn't give training, inevitably the worker will be educated by the public.

 

[Bottesini]

faire, you are hearing ! therefore in a deaf forum you are wrong. rofl

Well at the moment she is being castigated by a hearing person who has been studying ASL online for less than a week.

 

[Bebonang]

If you read that over, you will find no mention of eye rolling. That emoticon tells us she was disappointed at being caught and singled out as hearing.

You are completely missing the point. She did a little education there in letting the staff know that deaf people can deal on their own with customer service.

You don't understand it is really bad manners for someone to jump in and handle interactions like that.

It isn't all about making customer service feel happy. More training would be good. But if the business doesn't give training, inevitably the worker will be educated by the public.

That is what I meant. The hearing waitress or waiter is not use to the deaf people and did not know how to communicate especially when she or he had to write on the board for the Pizza boxed in like doggy bag. Right? It would be nice if all restaurants can be educated about deafness to help them to communicate better without looking for an interpreter or any members who is hearing like children for interpreter which is a no-no. I understand that FJ should be kind to nice to the waitress as saying "No, I can not interpret for her and would you kindly write down in pen and paper or on the board to ask her if she want the pizza to take home." instead of being rude as she or he is working. I guess it is hard to make it the right way or the wrong way. But I can see what she is saying in her thread.

 

[Rubiegem8280]

F_j, I think it would have been hard not to react with a friend, at a party with kids, in some manner. But asking her to communicate with the person in charge of the party was right on! Kuddos! I only help out (being HOH out with deaf friends) when my friend give me the "what did they say?" looks. Otherwise I let her handle it, she is an adult who has been on her own for years and done fantastic, she doesn't need me to mother. Besides she is much better at lip reading then me! And I am just doing the same thing. But because I was hearing longer and my vocalization is clearer they assume I am hearing and speak around her a lot, so I redirect bck to her. Gets them confused sometimes but she appreciated handling her own order and things. Besides I have no idea what she wants..... I mean in your situation it had been working out the whole party with the mom handling it, why change then? She didn't ask you to step in.....

 

[rain]

If you read that over, you will find no mention of eye rolling. That emoticon tells us she was disappointed at being caught and singled out as hearing.

You are completely missing the point. She did a little education there in letting the staff know that deaf people can deal on their own with customer service.

You don't understand it is really bad manners for someone to jump in and handle interactions like that.

It isn't all about making customer service feel happy. More training would be good. But if the business doesn't give training, inevitably the worker will be educated by the public.

I did read her post, and her eye rolling, ie:

At the same time the employee said "Wait a minute, we have someone who signs..." and goes off to find that person. (We all, of course, roll our eyes because that means that someone here once learned how to fingerspell from Sesame Street)

...started when they told her there was someone who knew sign, and FJ (with her optimistic attitude!) was apparently 'psychic' enough to know that whoever knew sign was just a lame finger-speller.

Here's where "You are completely missing the point", there is a right way and a wrong way to respond to certain situations. If FJ felt that the mother could handle the situation, and kudos for thinking that, then she should have told the employee in a better, less condescending manner than "uhh, yeah, write it on the board and she'll answer you"

I know a lot of you are friends with FJ but you're doing her a big disfavor by telling her she's "right" when clearly she comes across as a 'you know what' in these situations.

Bebonang seems to understand how to handle this situation kindly, FJ is a big girl...and she should take notes.

Well at the moment she is being castigated by a hearing person who has been studying ASL online for less than a week.

What does studying ASL and handling situations in public have to do with eachother? Is that suppose to, somehow, invalidate what I'd said? Does it help to let you know that I speak 3 other languages?

 

[Bottesini]

I did read her post, and her eye rolling, ie:



...started when they told her there was someone who knew sign, and FJ (with her optimistic attitude!) was apparently 'psychic' enough to know that whoever knew sign was just a lame finger-speller.




What does studying ASL and handling situations in public have to do with eachother? Is that suppose to, somehow, invalidate what I'd said? Does it help to let you know that I speak 3 other languages?

No your three languages mean nothing. It does invalidate your position and comments that you know nothing about deaf people.

Go get involved in the community in real life before you start making judgments and telling everyone what to do.

 

[Jiro]

No matter what I do, even when I'm right, people manage to find fault with me.

 

[faire_jour]

It's funny, you think you're "right" because a bunch of your internet friends tell you so. What I'm telling you, as someone who doesn't know you or your personality, is you came across as a rude and snide customer.

You are the worst kind of person to deal with in the customer-service industry, I just wish I believed in karma.

Why does the host think they have the right to NOT talk to the Deaf adult and instead deal with me? That is above and beyond rude.

 

[faire_jour]

faire, you are hearing ! Therefore in a deaf forum you are wrong. Rofl

yep!