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Mew, assuming one's brain has all the appropriate hormones, neurotransmitters, etc., wouldn't they be able to make a turn around by exclusively learning to do it in their head? I can understand introducing meds to make up for a lack of body substance, but I just don't see any sense with messing up what is already provided to begin with? Sorry if I'm direct, just need to understand why.
 
Mew, assuming one's brain has all the appropriate hormones, neurotransmitters, etc., wouldn't they be able to make a turn around by exclusively learning to do it in their head? I can understand introducing meds to make up for a lack of body substance, but I just don't see any sense with messing up what is already provided to begin with? Sorry if I'm direct, just need to understand why.

Typically... people who are diagnosed with a mental illness, are not "curable," per se. They may make improvements... but rarely will ever be completely cured of said issue. People with depression have the greatest chance of having a turn around without medication since there are many kinds of depression. Seasonal depressions ( like in the winter * a lot of people in Alaska get this or get depressed from a lack of sun light for long long periods of time. ) So, depression does have a better turn around. That's just a mental illnesses assuming she even has depression. * I have seen people on Lexapro as a booster with 2 or more medications to treat bipolar disorder * Bipolar disorder is a completely different demon in it's own. So many different chemical imbalances and fluxes, there's no controlling that, and well, lets not even get into anything involving Schizophrenia. There's no really learning how to control or do it in your head... believe me... I've tried... many times... over and over... to control mood disorders in my head without the aid of medications. Taking medications feeling well and thinking to myself "I've got this, I don't need these!" Only to discover in a week or so after stopping them I didn't have it, and I was back down in the same downward spiral I was in again. Sadly, it's nothing you can control. Everything is in my brain, believe me. I am a high functioning individual. I am certainly not unintelligent my any means. All it is, just a chemical imbalance, sadly. They don't understand everything about it completely, yet. Maybe people with very minor cases of depression... possibly? But I don't believe they would prescribe medication for those cases, they'd probably send them to therapy or something along those lines. Is that along the lines of what you are talking about? :hmm: The question you are asking is if people can eventually learn to control their illness? Sadly, a lot of the homeless you see around here... are mentally ill. :( Not medicated, of course.
 
Typically... people who are diagnosed with a mental illness, are not "curable," per se. They may make improvements... but rarely will ever be completely cured of said issue. People with depression have the greatest chance of having a turn around without medication since there are many kinds of depression. Seasonal depressions ( like in the winter * a lot of people in Alaska get this or get depressed from a lack of sun light for long long periods of time. ) So, depression does have a better turn around. That's just a mental illnesses assuming she even has depression. * I have seen people on Lexapro as a booster with 2 or more medications to treat bipolar disorder * Bipolar disorder is a completely different demon in it's own. So many different chemical imbalances and fluxes, there's no controlling that, and well, lets not even get into anything involving Schizophrenia. There's no really learning how to control or do it in your head... believe me... I've tried... many times... over and over... to control mood disorders in my head without the aid of medications. Taking medications feeling well and thinking to myself "I've got this, I don't need these!" Only to discover in a week or so after stopping them I didn't have it, and I was back down in the same downward spiral I was in again. Sadly, it's nothing you can control. Everything is in my brain, believe me. I am a high functioning individual. I am certainly not unintelligent my any means. All it is, just a chemical imbalance, sadly. They don't understand everything about it completely, yet. Maybe people with very minor cases of depression... possibly? But I don't believe they would prescribe medication for those cases, they'd probably send them to therapy or something along those lines. Is that along the lines of what you are talking about? :hmm: The question you are asking is if people can eventually learn to control their illness? Sadly, a lot of the homeless you see around here... are mentally ill. :( Not medicated, of course.

Definitely what I had in mind, thanks Mew! :hug: I guess it's a situation about how the brain is permanently wired regardless if a new learning experience is good or bad? Like the saying goes, once you start, you can't stop.
 
Definitely what I had in mind, thanks Mew! :hug: I guess it's a situation about how the brain is permanently wired regardless if a new learning experience is good or bad? Like the saying goes, once you start, you can't stop.

Like Pringles! :D :laugh2: Or those bagel chips.... :shock:

I've accepted it. I have to take pills the rest of my life... Oh well. Some people judge you for it... some don't. If people pass judgement for something that you can't control ( an illness per se ) that's their own close mindedness. I don't ask for pity... I usually crack jokes about it at work most of the time to lighten tense situations when everyone is stressed about heavy work loads. :P :laugh2: It's just because people see crap on TV and think it's like that... :roll: Oh well, you can't change judgmental peoples minds. If they're not willing to talk and get to know you and base their decision off something you can't help... well, that's their problem. :) :P
 
Well, I woke up in a lot of pain in my back and shoulder, but more in the back, so I emailed my instructor and counselor to let them know that I was going to be late for class because I was going to take a hot bath and soak in some hot water for a bit and go to student health right after.

Nobody got the message and apparently a group of staff and police were called to my room because nobody got my message and were knocking for some time, but I didn't hear them. So when I came out with only a towel around me I instantly came face to face with an unknown woman with a radio in her hand and I'm standing there again, with only a towel around me and I had to go get my hearing aids so I could see what she wanted.

She told me they were knocking for a while and asked why I didn't answer them.. Still have back and shoulder pain right now, been popping ibuprofen all day, it's not helping, but that was likely the most embarrassing moment of my life coming out from bathing and all those people there.

Thinking of making a sign for my door that says "If you're knocking and not getting a reply, it's either because I'm not here or I'm not wearing hearing aids right now."

Next time I have to see any of those people for anything, it's most likely going to cause some pretty bad anxiety. Bad day so far.. :'(
 
Wondering if you were able to track down if those emails eventually showed up? That might help to find out what would work to keep from having problems in the future.

Well, I woke up in a lot of pain in my back and shoulder, but more in the back, so I emailed my instructor and counselor to let them know that I was going to be late for class because I was going to take a hot bath and soak in some hot water for a bit and go to student health right after.

Nobody got the message and apparently a group of staff and police were called to my room because nobody got my message and were knocking for some time, but I didn't hear them. So when I came out with only a towel around me I instantly came face to face with an unknown woman with a radio in her hand and I'm standing there again, with only a towel around me and I had to go get my hearing aids so I could see what she wanted.

She told me they were knocking for a while and asked why I didn't answer them.. Still have back and shoulder pain right now, been popping ibuprofen all day, it's not helping, but that was likely the most embarrassing moment of my life coming out from bathing and all those people there.

Thinking of making a sign for my door that says "If you're knocking and not getting a reply, it's either because I'm not here or I'm not wearing hearing aids right now."

Next time I have to see any of those people for anything, it's most likely going to cause some pretty bad anxiety. Bad day so far.. :'(
 
Some of that stuff ( Lexapro is taken for people either with depression or anxiety but 99% of the time depression. ) Any drug that treats any mental issue ( depression, bipolar, schizophrenia or whatever ) needs to be tapered off and you should being tapered up onto a new drug as you're being decreased off of your current one. At no point should they just suddenly stop any medication or have you un-medicated. I seriously hope for your sake, they're tapering you up on another one...

My mom couldn't pay medical insurance for me and my family anymore. I take it for anxiety. It costs $333.99. I can't afford to pay for it because I had to pay kennel $172.80 for my dog to stay with them for 8 days while I am visiting my family. I will probably have to pay about $400 for X-ray for my dog tomorrow. His leg is swollen.
 
Wondering if you were able to track down if those emails eventually showed up? That might help to find out what would work to keep from having problems in the future.

They did, but what an embarrassing moment coming out of the bathroom and having people being right there when you get out and only having a towel covering you.
 
My mom couldn't pay medical insurance for me and my family anymore. I take it for anxiety. It costs $333.99. I can't afford to pay for it because I had to pay kennel $172.80 for my dog to stay with them for 8 days while I am visiting my family. I will probably have to pay about $400 for X-ray for my dog tomorrow. His leg is swollen.

There are much cheaper anxiety prescriptions available out there! Maybe see about going to a walk in clinic. Since you have been diagnosed with anxiety, see if your previous doctor will give you a letter stating your diagnosis. Usually you can go to a clinic ( Here we have places like Walgreens that have walk in clinics with P.A.s, ARNP's and doctors that usually just cost a $50.00 copay to walk in and see one.) Taking that letter in should be enough if you are experiencing anxiety or withdraws to get them to write you a script for a treatment medication for another anxiety script. Really, it depends on the severity of your anxiety, the licensing of that particular medical professional and what your previous doctor is willing to do. Honestly if you have a previous script from your last doctor, that is really your best bet, and most doctors don't fill 30 days at a time, they give you a few months at a time ( x amount of refills before x date for example ) Ask if he will move it to the generic. Even then, Lexapro shouldn't be THAT expensive. :shock: It's been out for a long time and there IS a generic for Lexapro called Escitalopram. It works just as well and most patients report no difference. As far as the price is concerned, I do not believe that you have been checking around or someone has lied to you. I checked in multiple states, including my own ( known for higher medication costs ) with no insurance and the cost for name brand Lexapro runs around $100 - $125 dollars. Lexapro Prices, Coupons and Information - GoodRx Those are just some stores ( known for higher prescription costs as well, walmart is usually cheaper.) The cost for the generic version Escitalopram I'm sure is much much cheaper. You just have to do some digging around, but the generics are always cheaper than the name brands. Good luck to you, hope it helps.

P.S. ( Other similar drugs to Lexapro that are FAR cheaper that you can find for around 6 - 10 bucks a month if you're interested I can get you a list... they are highly recommended for the treatment of chronic anxiety.) :)
 
Ironically, I feel better physically when I'm doing manual labor or taking a brisk walk. Today, I stacked firewood, did yard/garden work, raked lots of mulch, rearranged landscaping stones, and did other various outdoor projects. Tomorrow I have dreaded paper work to do, which is also a physical pain for me. I take frequent breaks on my treadmill, which helps. Also, I feel better if I sit in a rocking chair or swing and keep moving, rather than sitting in a regular chair.
 
relieved... I didn't completely fail pre-calc... I did fail the final, but got a D for the whole course. here's to hoping I do better when I retake it in the fall with the instructor I had for the last 2 math classes (elementary and intermediate algebra). A in ASL 1, B in Human Physiology, and still waiting on English grade.
 
relieved... I didn't completely fail pre-calc... I did fail the final, but got a D for the whole course. here's to hoping I do better when I retake it in the fall with the instructor I had for the last 2 math classes (elementary and intermediate algebra). A in ASL 1, B in Human Physiology, and still waiting on English grade.
Sometimes all it takes is a different instructor. :)
 
and class set up. I did the course redesign with former instructor, and that worked for me (and we could use notes on tests/exams). This semester, full out 100% online (with exams done at the testing center, NO NOTES), uurrgghh. and the instructor (apparently the toughest math instructor on campus) was really not of much help when I talked to him in person either so... yeah will be glad to go back to the other instructor and class set up. so wish I can just call it quits with advanced math, but..... I still want to get into radiography if possible so I'll give pre-calc another shot.
 
and class set up. I did the course redesign with former instructor, and that worked for me (and we could use notes on tests/exams). This semester, full out 100% online (with exams done at the testing center, NO NOTES), uurrgghh. and the instructor (apparently the toughest math instructor on campus) was really not of much help when I talked to him in person either so... yeah will be glad to go back to the other instructor and class set up. so wish I can just call it quits with advanced math, but..... I still want to get into radiography if possible so I'll give pre-calc another shot.
Yes, classes/students are better online and some are not. I'm fortunate in that my online classes allow the tests to be taken at home, open-book, open-notes. But I fully agree that some instructors are big helps, and some are not.

I hope you get the right combination of instructors and class modes. :)
 
Typically... people who are diagnosed with a mental illness, are not "curable," per se. They may make improvements... but rarely will ever be completely cured of said issue. People with depression have the greatest chance of having a turn around without medication since there are many kinds of depression. Seasonal depressions ( like in the winter * a lot of people in Alaska get this or get depressed from a lack of sun light for long long periods of time. ) So, depression does have a better turn around. That's just a mental illnesses assuming she even has depression. * I have seen people on Lexapro as a booster with 2 or more medications to treat bipolar disorder * Bipolar disorder is a completely different demon in it's own. So many different chemical imbalances and fluxes, there's no controlling that, and well, lets not even get into anything involving Schizophrenia. There's no really learning how to control or do it in your head... believe me... I've tried... many times... over and over... to control mood disorders in my head without the aid of medications. Taking medications feeling well and thinking to myself "I've got this, I don't need these!" Only to discover in a week or so after stopping them I didn't have it, and I was back down in the same downward spiral I was in again. Sadly, it's nothing you can control. Everything is in my brain, believe me. I am a high functioning individual. I am certainly not unintelligent my any means. All it is, just a chemical imbalance, sadly. They don't understand everything about it completely, yet. Maybe people with very minor cases of depression... possibly? But I don't believe they would prescribe medication for those cases, they'd probably send them to therapy or something along those lines. Is that along the lines of what you are talking about? :hmm: The question you are asking is if people can eventually learn to control their illness? Sadly, a lot of the homeless you see around here... are mentally ill. :( Not medicated, of course.

uneasy it I had alots of muscle sparsm and twitch leg and arm.. alots. I have ADHD is serious. I have serious ADHD. I have alots of ADHD is very serious impossible. I have no idea what is happened. I have suffer anxiety I think so problem on muscle sparsm. doctor said muscle sparsm serious. I am no idea what I am figure out muscle sparsm cause really uneasy. I am very surprised first times never heard it is very complication medication is very risk level. It is very risk I always avodiance always usually to opposite to odd. serious It is very risk anxiety increase. is very more increase made of neruobiochemical and expertiment to specialist nurse. failure it is tragic is very really uneasy gain made of serious. made of follow to up the thems. I think so complex. neuro wont doesnt' work better impossible to medication all serious it is very serious.


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I've accepted it. I have to take pills the rest of my life... Oh well. Some people judge you for it... some don't.

Reminds me of this image I saw a while ago, indeed that's what's difficult about mental illness, it's not some tangible thing like deafness. You can't just "snap out of it"

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Ironically, I feel better physically when I'm doing manual labor or taking a brisk walk. Today, I stacked firewood, did yard/garden work, raked lots of mulch, rearranged landscaping stones, and did other various outdoor projects. Tomorrow I have dreaded paper work to do, which is also a physical pain for me. I take frequent breaks on my treadmill, which helps. Also, I feel better if I sit in a rocking chair or swing and keep moving, rather than sitting in a regular chair.

Reba, that is great you had a good day. You did a lot. I hope there are many more good days ahead for you. Stay strong!!!
 
Reminds me of this image I saw a while ago, indeed that's what's difficult about mental illness, it's not some tangible thing like deafness. You can't just "snap out of it"

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These illustrated are physical A Nihilist. I meant the sort ASSUMING overall brain function is normal. She did point out with an abnormal brain function, of course meds are necessary. In this case, me thinks you need a script for skittles! :P
 
These illustrated are physical A Nihilist. I meant the sort ASSUMING overall brain function is normal.

Duh, I know those are physical, the point is that with mental illness you can't just stop being so depressed or stop having hallucinations. That cartoon was showing the how absurd it is when people give bad advice assuming that it's a simple matter of mind over matter or just "walk it off".
 
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