Has anybody tried their HA in their implant ear?

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faire_jour said:
Step one.

Is there a difference between speech awareness and speech comprehension?
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Don't insult my intelligence faire_jour. I know a great deal about hearing loss -- probably more than you since Miss Kat has only been deaf for 4 years. I've been hard of hearing for 31 years and deaf for 4.
 
Hear Again said:
Don't insult my intelligence faire_jour. I know a great deal about hearing loss -- probably more than you since Miss Kat has only been deaf for 4 years. I've been hard of hearing for 31 years and deaf for 4.
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Is that a yes?

She could hear speech, but not understand it. In closed sets she could use the super-segmental pattern differences in the words to identify them. She could not understand them.
 
But to be able to repeat back you need to be able to understand and hear what is being said .
 
Deafteen90 said:
But to be able to repeat back you need to be able to understand and hear what is being said .
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And that is why she wasn't able to repeat back the words. (But actually, a bird can repeat, it can not understand)
 
faire_jour said:
And that is why she wasn't able to repeat back the words. (But actually, a bird can repeat, it can not understand)
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A bird with a CI won't understand either. That is not going to change.
 
faire_jour said:
Is that a yes?

She could hear speech, but not understand it. In closed sets she could use the super-segmental pattern differences in the words to identify them. She could not understand them.
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Did you see the word yes anywhere in my post?

How could she identify words if she couldn't understand them?

What do you mean by "super segmental pattern differences?" Is that a fancy synonym for the word syllable?
 
I have repeated it a thosand different ways, but if someone doesn't understand by now, they won't.

I'm moving on.

If people choose to believe that somewhere in Utah there is a CI surgeon implanting *star* hearing aid users with amazing residual hearing...I don't even care :roll:
 
Bottesini said:
If you can produce the same sound with comprehension or not you still heard.

Hearing the sounds with the different electronic of the CI should not make her comprehend more if she could already reproduce it.
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Exactly. If one can hear the sound well enough to repeat it consistently and acurrately, then they are hearing what is being produced. Just because they cannot connect what they are hearing to a particular concept doesn't mean they haven't heard it. That is where understanding that a particular sound is the same thing as the sign as the print word as the picture. That is an understanding of the symbolic nature of language, and has nothing to do with being able to hear the sound. And it is the very reason to advocate for a whole language approach such as that used in a Bi-Bi atmosphere. Just because a person can hear a sound does not mean they can process that sound to meaning. I can hear a sound in Japanese. Howver, because I have no familiarity with the Japanese liguistic symbology, I cannot process that sound to meaning. That doesn't mean I haven't heard it accurately.
 
You never answered my question faire_jour. What do you mean by super segmental pattern differences?
 
faire_jour said:
I have repeated it a thosand different ways, but if someone doesn't understand by now, they won't.

I'm moving on.

If people choose to believe that somewhere in Utah there is a CI surgeon implanting *star* hearing aid users with amazing residual hearing...I don't even care :roll:
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I am more thinking Munchausen's by proxy.
 
faire_jour said:
She couldn't repeat them back. She would point to the right picture at 80%.
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If she is pointing to the right picture, that is not only hearing, it is comprehension of what she heard.
 
Bottesini said:
I am more thinking Munchausen's by proxy.
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You just accused me of abusing my child by putting her through unnessassary medical procedures for my own attention. That is UNACCEPTABLE! Who do you think you are? How dare you?!!
 
faire_jour said:
I have gone over this again and again.

When given 4 words to chose from, she could tell the difference between BABY and TOOTHBRUSH 80% of the time.
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Then she was discriminating 80% of the time.
 
No parents would have gotten their child a ci if they had great residual hearing, i know I wouldnt
 
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