Has anybody tried their HA in their implant ear?

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Or probably Miss Kat is going to be offensive like her before she's eight
 
Okay whoa. There is a LOT of misunderstanding here. I'm surprised at the comments by Deafteen90 and Hear Again. I cannot be the only deaf person who can pick out words from a closed set based on vowels only. Pre CI, I barely heard consonants (if I even heard them at all), but lets say that a closed set had "Baby, hot dog, loopy, hiya" (all 2 syllable words), I probably can get 80% right. I just listen for the vowels, but if you said "aa ee, oh og, ooo ee, eye a" I would have not noticed the missing consonantes at all. Does that make sense?
 
Daredevel7 said:
Okay whoa. There is a LOT of misunderstanding here. I'm surprised at the comments by Deafteen90 and Hear Again. I cannot be the only deaf person who can pick out words from a closed set based on vowels only. Pre CI, I barely heard consonants (if I even heard them at all), but lets say that a closed set had "Baby, hot dog, loopy, hiya" (all 2 syllable words), I probably can get 80% right. I just listen for the vowels, but if you said "aa ee, oh og, ooo ee, eye a" I would have not noticed the missing consonantes at all. Does that make sense?
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Listening for the vowels means you are hearing the vowels, and processing them to meaning. That is all that they were saying. If you can pick it out of a closed set, and get it correct, you have discriminated the difference between the sounds. As long as you can accurately apply meaning to what you have heard, you have comprehension, whether it is comprehension based on understanding ayee as meaning a human infant, or baby meaning a human infant. You just would not repeat it accurately. But receptively, you have understood.
 
jillio said:
Listening for the vowels means you are hearing the vowels, and processing them to meaning.
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Exactly. I could hear vowels with my left ear pre-CI, but that was still considered hearing according to the CI audi who evaluated me.
 
Daredevel,

No offense, but given the fact that you were raised orally, I would have thought you'd know the difference between hearing and comprehension.
 
jillio said:
Listening for the vowels means you are hearing the vowels, and processing them to meaning. That is all that they were saying. If you can pick it out of a closed set, and get it correct, you have discriminated the difference between the sounds. As long as you can accurately apply meaning to what you have heard, you have comprehension, whether it is comprehension based on understanding ayee as meaning a human infant, or baby meaning a human infant. You just would not repeat it accurately. But receptively, you have understood.
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Correct, but those are just vowels. If you gave me a closed set of "Dog, hog, mog, log" I will get 0% speech discrimination, but if you gave me the closed set that I mentioned before I will get a higher percentage. Or if you give me the closed set WITHOUT me looking at it, I also will get 0% or a very low percentage.
 
Hear Again said:
Daredevel,

No offense, but given the fact that you were raised orally, I would have thought you'd know the difference between hearing and comprehension.
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No I understand, but there's comprehension by "figuring out" which word it is by elimination in a closed set. You hear "hot dog", you have a set of 10 words, just fnd the one that has 2 syllables and have 2 sharp o's.
 
Daredevel7 said:
Correct, but those are just vowels. If you gave me a closed set of "Dog, hog, mog, log" I will get 0% speech discrimination, but if you gave me the closed set that I mentioned before I will get a higher percentage. Or if you give me the closed set WITHOUT me looking at it, I also will get 0% or a very low percentage.
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So would I, but by accounts given the child was doing better than this.

I also remember an account of how mad the mother was at the grandmother, because the grandmother insisted that the child heard and responded when the grandmother spoke.
 
Daredevel7 said:
Correct, but those are just vowels. If you gave me a closed set of "Dog, hog, mog, log" I will get 0% speech discrimination, but if you gave me the closed set that I mentioned before I will get a higher percentage. Or if you give me the closed set WITHOUT me looking at it, I also will get 0% or a very low percentage.
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But the point is, you are still hearing and processing to meaning. And the average score of the subsets is what will determine discrimination scores. In order to have 0% discrimination, you would not be able to discriminate anything. What FJ was saying was, Miss Kat could identify correctly, 80% of the time, words in a closed set, but that she had 0% speech comprehension (meaning discrimination). That is just impossible.
 
Daredevel7 said:
Correct, but those are just vowels. If you gave me a closed set of "Dog, hog, mog, log" I will get 0% speech discrimination, but if you gave me the closed set that I mentioned before I will get a higher percentage. Or if you give me the closed set WITHOUT me looking at it, I also will get 0% or a very low percentage.
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That's irrelevent given the fact that words are mainly comprised of consonants and vowels. Very rarely do they contain vowels only.
 
Daredevel7 said:
No I understand, but there's comprehension by "figuring out" which word it is by elimination in a closed set. You hear "hot dog", you have a set of 10 words, just fnd the one that has 2 syllables and have 2 sharp o's.
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Spondees don't work that way because they consist of multiple words that contain more than one syllable. If word tests were the way you describe, I'd score 100% even with a profound loss in my left ear unaided.
 
jillio said:
But the point is, you are still hearing and processing to meaning. And the average score of the subsets is what will determine discrimination scores. In order to have 0% discrimination, you would not be able to discriminate anything. What FJ was saying was, Miss Kat could identify correctly, 80% of the time, words in a closed set, but that she had 0% speech comprehension (meaning discrimination). That is just impossible.
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Oh you're just saying that she should have stated 10% instead of 0%?
 
Daredevel7 said:
No I understand, but there's comprehension by "figuring out" which word it is by elimination in a closed set. You hear "hot dog", you have a set of 10 words, just fnd the one that has 2 syllables and have 2 sharp o's.
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Hearing people use elimination for comprehension and discrimination, too.
 
Bottesini said:
So would I, but by accounts given the child was doing better than this.

I also remember an account of how mad the mother was at the grandmother, because the grandmother insisted that the child heard and responded when the grandmother spoke.
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Exactly.
 
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