critique part 6 as promised for poster who longs and lusts after my posts...
creep mother" said:
(30)The Food and Drug Administration’s 1990 decision to approve cochlear implants for children as young as two galvanized Deaf culture advocates.
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i was in deafie school at this time, where were you?
i remember all this very well. unlike others in this thread, i have actually lived through this..and am part of this...i'm not some stranger on the net thinking they can waltz into any culture and people they pls just because....
nope...
creep mother" said:
(31)They saw the prostheses as just another in a long line of medical fixes for deafness.
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NO we still do SEE it as such.
creep mother" said:
(32)None of the previous ideas had worked, and it wasn’t hard to find doctors and scientists who maintained that this wouldn’t work either —
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the above is misleading on purpose, it wasn't that doctors believed it wouldn't work which was the issue of resistance for the medical establishment before those doctors where silenced,,it had to do with something else entirely this mother wont address for obvious reasons.
creep mother" said:
(33)at least not well. Beyond the complaint that the potential benefits of implants were dubious and unproven,
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this wasn't just a complaint.for the sincere and are concerned i actually quoted the very fda statement regarding CI..that this well researched mother failed to mention..
creep mother" said:
(34)the Deaf community objected to the very premise that deaf people needed to be fixed at all.
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this is still true for the vast majority of us.
creep mother" said:
(35)I was upset,” Ted Supalla, a linguist who studies ASL at Georgetown University Medical Center, told me. “I never saw myself as deficient ever. The medical community was not able to see that we could possibly see ourselves as perfectly fine and normal just living our lives. To go so far as to put something technical in our brains, at the beginning, was a serious affront.”?
i met this gentleman and he does good work..
creep mother" said:
(36)The Deaf view was that late-deafened adults were old enough to understand their choice, had not grown up in Deaf culture, and already had spoken language. Young children who had been born deaf were different. The assumption was that cochlear implants would remove children from the Deaf world, thereby threatening the survival of that world.
this is NOT an assumption WE know what has happened, we have after all lived through this, unlike others in this thread that seem to have it they know this yet don't even know our language or ways, or culture..right cncie? right janeb? right ambrosia? oic..
i wonder how many other board story on telling other cultures what should be and that you knwo more them about them..i wonder...
creep mother" said:
(37)That led to complaints about “genocide” and the eradication of a minority group.
Ethnocide and it wasn't just a complaint after all it galvanized our culture....
even if we did complain, if thats what call it..given how Deaf are treated on this thread by outsiders and non Deaf we know the hearie world would do exactly what it did do and always has done..so
yeah..
creep mother" said:
(38)The Deaf community felt ignored by the medical and scientific supporters of cochlear implants;
IF ONLY THEY WOULD OF IGNORED US!!!!!!!
creep mother" said:
(39)many believed deaf children should have the opportunity to make the choice for themselves once they were old enough; still others felt the implant should be outlawed entirely. Tellingly, the ASL sign developed for “cochlear implant” was two fingers stabbed into the neck, vampire-style.
and the above still holds true..and we still use that sign....
creep mother" said:
(40)The medical community agreed that the stakes were different for children. “For kids, of course, what really counts is their language development,” says Richard Dowell, who today heads the University of Melbourne’s Department of Audiology and Speech Pathology but in the 1970s was part of an Australian team led by Graeme Clark that played a critical role in developing the modern-day cochlear implant. “You’re trying to give them good enough hearing to actually then use that to assist their language development as close to normal as possible. So the emphasis changes very, very much when you’re talking about kids.”
doc,, what if normal and abnormal are just man made constructs? why not break out of that old model and see Deaf as normal? not needing to be fixed?
creep mother" said:
(41)By the time Alex was born, children were succeeding in developing language with cochlear implants in ever greater numbers.
another bald face manipulation...those children could have always succeeded in developing language, deaf sign naturally it is our natural language, all that had to happen was for the parents do was sign with them, and meet some Deaf that's it...instead its the drill..yeah we get it..
(42)The devices didn’t work perfectly and they didn’t work for everyone, but the benefits could be profound. The access to sound afforded by cochlear implants could serve as a gateway to communication, to spoken language and then to literacy. For hearing children, the ability to break the sound of speech into its components parts — a skill known as phonological awareness — is the foundation for learning to read.[/QUOTE]
thsi is also BULLSHIT!! Deaf who are born Deaf can also learn to read just as well as hearies....it happens all the time...
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ok coffee break...
this will grow to more then 7 then a wrap up using foucault and some other maybe jay some benjamin in the end..havnt decided