Girl accidentally kills firing range instructor

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I thought you said you where done with this thread .
 
Forget the we need more information a 7 or 9 year old shooting guns is too young. This isn't the American frontier of the 1800's, we don't have to kill our food anymore, and the chance of a child being hurt or killed with a firearm is greater than being hurt or killed by an intruder.
 
seb said:
Forget the we need more information a 7 or 9 year old shooting guns is too young. This isn't the American frontier of the 1800's, we don't have to kill our food anymore, and the chance of a child being hurt or killed with a firearm is greater than being hurt or killed by an intruder.
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Maybe you do not have any needs to hunt for your food but that does not
mean other people should not be allowed to. We have to hunt the deer in my city each year b/c man had killed off their natural predators. We have a bird sanctuary and deer live there too and they need be thinned out so there will be enough food for the deer to survive . We have deer coming into my back yard looking for food . Some people do not like eating man raise meat b/ci it has too hormone etc.
 
seb said:
Forget the we need more information a 7 or 9 year old shooting guns is too young. This isn't the American frontier of the 1800's, we don't have to kill our food anymore, and the chance of a child being hurt or killed with a firearm is greater than being hurt or killed by an intruder.
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"Forget the we need more information . . ."

Are you saying that we should make judgments without having the facts? That certainly isn't wise.

"This isn't the American frontier of the 1800's, we don't have to kill our food anymore . . . "

So? How is that relevant to anything? You do understand that 2nd Amendment rights have nothing to do with a need for killing for food, right?

"the chance of a child being hurt or killed with a firearm is greater than being hurt or killed by an intruder . . ."

What is your factual basis for that statement? Are you including firearm injuries produced by the intruders?

I fail to see any logic here.
 
Reba said:
I read the story and listened to the video interview. No one stated how the injury occurred or what the injury was, so I would withhold judgment on this event until there was more information.
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:dunno:

My take is that regardless of what happened it was still an accident. How many is too much was my question though.
 
Reba said:
"Forget the we need more information . . ."

Are you saying that we should make judgments without having the facts? That certainly isn't wise.

"This isn't the American frontier of the 1800's, we don't have to kill our food anymore . . . "

So? How is that relevant to anything? You do understand that 2nd Amendment rights have nothing to do with a need for killing for food, right?

"the chance of a child being hurt or killed with a firearm is greater than being hurt or killed by an intruder . . ."

What is your factual basis for that statement? Are you including firearm injuries produced by the intruders?

I fail to see any logic here.
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I watched news a noon today and there was no update on the boy getting hurt , did you hear anything ?
 
I was born here in Alaska and the son of a veteran in an area where pretty much all the men were war vets. There were guns around. We were taught about them. First it was don't touch. Somewhere in there next came a bb gun. Then it was a simple .22 and target practice that came about when boys and a few girls were mature enough.... 8 to 11. Usually somewhere in there small animals began to be hunted with the .22. This was a natural and reasonable progression in society that was excepting of guns as a part of life.

There was in that time no one I can recall that would have thought a 9 year old girl or boy was ready to handle a weapon like the UZI. It would have been considered the absolute heighth of inane, stupid, and ridiculous behavior by someone who was challenged mentally to a such a dangerous degree that children would have been kept from being anywhere near them.
 
This did not need to happen , this all about adults using poor judgment , the parents should had know the gun would be too much for her daughter .
 
I was taught how to shoot at around 9 too. It was simply one of many skills I was taught to enrich my parents renaissance man style of education. I think it is ok if it is approached as educational with supervision but dangerous if done as a thrill with guns that are too powerful for the child.
 
seb said:
Forget the we need more information a 7 or 9 year old shooting guns is too young. This isn't the American frontier of the 1800's, we don't have to kill our food anymore,
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huh? kill our food? that's not the main reason of guns in America. It's to ensure that this America stay free since Day 1.

I'm wondering if you have read newspaper lately. do you realize that any country with unarmed citizens always resulted in very violent bloody deadly revolt against tyrannical government? it's still happening now and has been continuing to happen for over thousands of years.

it even happened in America and gladly enough... we have taken actions against our government and the sane mind persevered.... like President George Bush signing law prohibiting any government from confiscating guns from law-abiding citizens in the time of crisis or at any time.

so no I'm not dreaming. It is the truth that the majority of people in the "government" are patriotic and honest law-abiding citizens like us. it is unfortunate that a very few people in the government who are very influential and powerful enough to enact the illegal laws in contradiction to Constitution.... which eventually get repealed at later time by saner minds.

The most dangerous thing to this country and our Constitution is people like you. Fortunately... people like you are a very tiny minority.

Disarmament leads to subservience.

seb said:
and the chance of a child being hurt or killed with a firearm is greater than being hurt or killed by an intruder.
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source please?
 
seb said:
There have been many, but the one that really comes to mind is that wackaloon kid who shot his mother before going to the school and shooting I think 28 kids and teachers in Sandy Hook in 2012. He had extensive training in the handling of guns by his wacko mother to protect against the intruders and invaders that were coming. It's just to bad he didn't just kill his mother and then turn the gun on himself. Since Sandy Hook in 2012 there have been 74 additional shootings at schools and many done by students.
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notice that the shooters were lunatic... had history of mental illness... failed to receive professional help... laws failing or lack of laws to prohibit them from owning guns

Sandy Hook Shooter had a serious mental illness and the mother was incredibly stupid for sheltering him away from professional helps.

notice that our laws prohibited people with mental illness from having firearms but that only works if they were involuntarily committed to mental hospitals. This shows that we still need to work on tightening up laws regarding mental illness.
 
Jiro said:
notice that the shooters were lunatic... had history of mental illness... failed to receive professional help... laws failing or lack of laws to prohibit them from owning guns

Sandy Hook Shooter had a serious mental illness and the mother was incredibly stupid for sheltering him away from professional helps.

notice that our laws prohibited people with mental illness from having firearms but that only works if they were involuntarily committed to mental hospitals. This shows that we still need to work on tightening up laws regarding mental illness.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/nancy-lanza-tried-to-get-sandy-hook-14981


The mother was trying to get her son locked up and if I am correct I think she had wait for the court date to get him committed to a mental hospital. The court system needs to move faster on these kind of cases where a person show he a risk to other people . And some people with mental illness will stay below the radar and never show it . It's not that easy to get someone locked up involuntarily if they did nothing wrong you can't arrest a people for what they're thinking .
 
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