Gallaudet's Fernandes wants all state deaf schools closed down, protesters say

SxyPorkie said:
CI issue and gally protests are seperating issues... CI had nothing to do with the state deaf schools and galladents...

Please dont bring CI issues in here...

Thanks!!
SxyPorkie
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You need look at Sweetmind's post and she's posted about CI related at first place.

Again, you need to hush up your mouth.
 
SxyPorkie said:
CI issue and gally protests are seperating issues... CI had nothing to do with the state deaf schools and galladents...

Please dont bring CI issues in here...
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Hi SxyPorkie,

I'm afraid that CI issues were partly related
interwined with some of these reasons/factors
for the protest occurrence.
 
volcomskatz said:
You need look at Sweetmind's post and she's posted about CI related at first place.

Again, you need to hush up your mouth.
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Tsk tsk .. Please read this careful. CI radical's audist attitude that is different from CI devices.. I m talking about people not the devices itself if you mind.

Sighs!
 
LuciaDisturbed said:
Gallaudet isn't a state school. It's a private university.
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but under guise of special education, funded by U.S. Govt.

I.King Jordan had to attend congress hearings from time to time. with Dept of Educations and et-al...

NTID is one of 9 college of RIT but funded by Dept of Edu grants. and is under guise of special education too.

most deaf schools are special educations too. *shrug*
 
SxyPorkie said:
CI issue and gally protests are seperating issues... CI had nothing to do with the state deaf schools and galladents...

Please dont bring CI issues in here...

Thanks!!
SxyPorkie
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tell that to sweetmind eh! oh you won't do that *RME*
 
Boult said:
tell that to sweetmind eh! oh you won't do that *RME*
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:rofl:

Well, both of them need be nice to you and you need be nice to both of them too.

Thanks!!
Volcomskatz
 
ClearSky said:
Well, I don't completely agree in taking down deaf schools. Actually, my biggest concern is that a lot of deaf students lack a good system in their language skills. I really do think many deaf schools need a lot of improvements. I went for a couple of years to a classroom for hearing impaired children (HOH or deaf) during elementary school in a regular school setting that had a classroom specifically for these children, but they still were mainstreamed in classes they did okay by themselves. I really believe these years helped me prepare so much for mainstreaming, which I was mainstreamed in many classes while having the support. The only thing I lacked in high school with an interpreter were my social skills. At one point, I wanted to join the deaf school just for the social part, but I knew that my academics were too much to be in a school for the deaf to be considered...which is why I think they need to improve in their teachings because I can see that they need to bring high expectations for the deaf students. It's not fair that many deaf students graduate unable to read and write at their levels. It's unfair to make them pay for classes just to improve and get into any education they want. Perhaps they should use the deaf schools as a way to prepare deaf students for the mainstream instead of all of their lives?
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it is not school's fault that kids are delayed badly in english and other areas mainly reason why is cuz parents didnt take them to early intervention when they were 1 yr old? It is parent's responsbility to HELP kids LEARN english and writing.. not just school!

My mom taught me the ABC's and writing english when i was 1 yr old then she found out I am deaf so she put me in therapy and there i was able to be stimulated around other deaf kiddies and learn to write more etc. yet on weekends she still make sure I still read books and learn the vocabulary. I dont think it is school's responsbility to do that..

as for my son TJ- I helped him learn ABC and writing sentences etc.. WAY before he start Kindergarten. I am still teaching him words and why, what and hows. He always asked me questions. I try to answer them if i can. Yes it is teacher's duty to teach kids.. but PARENTS too! that's my belief.

so DONT BLAME SCHOOL!

AND fyi.. I went to Arkansas School for the Deaf when I was 5 yrs old and graduated from there. Does that mean they have lousy education? No. The education there was a challenge to me. I love the challenges.. I kept asking for more. They were surprised so they gave my class hard subjects to learn more. If you ask for more challenges- they will do it but not many will? too many are lazy and are not TRYING.

so for my belief that It is PARENT'S responsiblity-not just school!!!

That's my two cents.
 
Brian Riley,

Welcome to AD. You'll find an interesting mix of deaf people here.

Richard
 
Thank you for giving me your two cents.

Actually, all schools are still responsible to teach them to learn how to read and write. Unfortunately, some English teachers have weakness skills in their classroom. Of course, the teachers have to take their test every two years (?) by the law. They are good on test, but a classroom is different.

It is more important that all parents are full responsible to teach their students to know how to read a book and write a note. Some parents have wrong kind of teaching them that make their childlren difficult to learn or deal with.

I do not believe that Gernandes wants to ban all deaf schools because she does not have the power to control the system. Maybe, she expressed her own words at the auditorium, and she has the right to speak her own speech and her own opinion. That is probably why some deafies misunderstood, and they forgot that it was her own expression.

I'll put my two cents in my piggy bank. Thank you for your generous.
 
The article begins by saying, "protesters say".

Therefore, it wouldn't be 100% reliable to accept that fact until we've heard it said by Jane Fernandes herself.
 
webexplorer said:
Thank you for giving me your two cents.

Actually, all schools are still responsible to teach them to learn how to read and write. Unfortunately, some English teachers have weakness skills in their classroom. Of course, the teachers have to take their test every two years (?) by the law. They are good on test, but a classroom is different.

It is more important that all parents are full responsible to teach their students to know how to read a book and write a note. Some parents have wrong kind of teaching them that make their childlren difficult to learn or deal with.

I do not believe that Gernandes wants to ban all deaf schools because she does not have the power to control the system. Maybe, she expressed her own words at the auditorium, and she has the right to speak her own speech and her own opinion. That is probably why some deafies misunderstood, and they forgot that it was her own expression.

I'll put my two cents in my piggy bank. Thank you for your generous.
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You are welcome! ha. you are right, school do have duty to teach kids. U could be right that all English teachers are different at teaching kids in the classrooms. all books are same.. but teaching styles may be different? I realized you are right about that. I havent thought of that too. Also the parents may not have a decent education or too busy to teach their kids?

About baning deaf school - i dont think they will do that not in our lifetime.. sighs.
 
VamPyroX said:
The article begins by saying, "protesters say".

Therefore, it wouldn't be 100% reliable to accept that fact until we've heard it said by Jane Fernandes herself.
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LOL, that's exactly I was thinking in the first place.
I am kinda surprised that this post is kinda popular with a lot of misunderstandings.
 
faNatic said:
LOL, that's exactly I was thinking in the first place.
I am kinda surprised that this post is kinda popular with a lot of misunderstandings.
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Yep. That's the problem with a lot of deaf people at NTID. They listen to hearsay, not facts. They basically believe the first thing they "hear" from anyone. Once that is said, it's considered the "truth" and nothing else matters. That's why there's always problems between friends here at NTID. :roll:
 
yes they do under the act of congress grant so HUSH whoever is bitching avt gally,...

this is politics and thier fighting...

Educations for the deaf could be improved if the poeple of the deaf community wasn't THAT hell bent on developing social skills at early age and doing all the education at late age, its like craming your brain before you turn 18...

education starts at birth and ends when you die! keep that in mind :)
 
My old school does not teach me nothing. My good friend Celia taught me how to read and write better English. I first learned English when I was 16 years old. All teachers have different teachings. Some educations are flaw. Because they did not challange me to be success. They gave me no choice and want me stupid.

apostrophe, form possesives

James' or James's you know which is right?


http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_apost.html
 
Well, if she is wanting to shut down state schools for the deaf, she will not get rid of two other things. If there aren't any state schools, then there happen to be private schools and homeschooling options. I was homeschooled, and though some might say that these will effect the way deaf people learn English, I would say it would be for the better. It will particularly improve in the near future, with three different homeschool curriculums making textbooks, cds and video lessons for ASL-English lessons. I would recommend Powerglide. Having gone through their Spanish-English course, I see them to be engaging lesson books that actually make it easy to learn not only the language, but some of their culture, by making a corresponding story that plunges you into the culture of the language.
As for the Private schools, they cost more than homeschooling does (Homeschooling is maybe $300-400 a year, while private schools can be anywhere from $1000 on up), but the teachers are trained, and if it is a private school for the deaf, they will be trained to teach deaf students. From this, whatever Fernandes does, she will not rid the country of schools for the deaf.
 
VamPyroX said:
Yep. That's the problem with a lot of deaf people at NTID. They listen to hearsay, not facts. They basically believe the first thing they "hear" from anyone. Once that is said, it's considered the "truth" and nothing else matters. That's why there's always problems between friends here at NTID. :roll:
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Yes, I have seen a lot of problems like that so many times.

Also I have read on some researcher's article - he said more people believed the stories thru forums really fast, instead of believing the history book, for example Cold War is a World War 3, that hasn't proved yet, but people's opinions do change other people's opinion really fast. The high percentage occured is the conversation, which is related to the religion. Very sad!
 
VamPyroX said:
Yep. That's the problem with a lot of deaf people at NTID. They listen to hearsay, not facts. They basically believe the first thing they "hear" from anyone. Once that is said, it's considered the "truth" and nothing else matters. That's why there's always problems between friends here at NTID. :roll:
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Ugh, that's everywhere, and it annoys me. People hear something ridiculous sounding, whether it's about a person or an event, and spread it around without confirming it. Personally, I've no problem going straight to the source to get the truth, but I guess that's too hard for people.

As for Fernandes... I don't support the decision to elect her as President, but I also don't think she'd go so far as to say that. If anyone has been reading the blogs on the NAD website from the conference, someone (I forget his name at the moment) asked I. King Jordan about that statement. As he pointed out, Fernandes was an administrator at the Hawaii School for the Deaf as well as MSSD.
 
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