Gallaudet under fire after official placed on leave over ballot signature

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Jiro said:
and you do not respect accusers' concern that her belief may have interfered with her job?
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Nope, looks like a vendetta....
 
TXgolfer said:
But, they tried to use that against McCaskill....This appears to have been a personal vendetta rather than a genuine concern. :dunno:
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Well, I don't agree with your statement because her interest with job position is more concerned to both of faculty members.
 
TXgolfer said:
But, they tried to use that against McCaskill....This appears to have been a personal vendetta rather than a genuine concern. :dunno:
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Smith and Bienvenu only wanted to get rid of any faculty member who does not holds to the same belief and principles that they hold to. They are willing to trample any and everyone whom does not agree to their belief and principles.
 
Standard procedure has been followed and investigation has shown that her personal belief did not interfere with her ability to perform the job as required and she's back to job. and now she feels all hurt about what has happened... well she is within her legal rights to pursue a legal option to sue for damage.

all are as according to university policy and laws. and that's just that. :cool2:
 
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Jiro said:
Standard procedure has been followed and investigation has shown that her personal belief did not interfere with her ability to perform the job as required and she's back to job. and now she feels all hurt about what has happened... well she is within her legal rights to pursue a legal option to sue for damage.

all are as according to university policy and laws. and that's just that. :cool2:
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Yup, it is too earlier for McCaskill right now and let her to make decision, just I agreed with you - if she feels that damage has done so seek legal action or get Gallaudet University to offer compensation.

The lawsuit should be last resort when Gallaudet University fails to repair the damage level.
 
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Foxrac said:
The lawsuit should be last resort when Gallaudet University fails to repair the damage level.
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That is really a decision for McCaskill's legal advisors. McCaskill has stated that she felt bullied and that she cares about the students. Her decision may be based on what she feels is best for the students and compensation may take a lesser role.

I do doubt that she will file a lawsuit however.
 
I have tough to say: McCaskill, Hurwitz, Bienvenu and Smith need get all together to work out and solve the problem!
 
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Foxrac said:
I have tough to say: McCaskill, Hurwitz, Bienvenu and Smith need get all together to work out and solve the problem!
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Apparently they tried that and it didn't work out. McCaskill wanted to open a dialogue with the students while the accuser/s demanded she apologize for signing the petition. They couldn't come to an agreement and that is when Hurwitz put her on admin leave.

You are correct, it is a tough situation..... a big mess really.
 
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TXgolfer said:
Apparently they tried that and it didn't work out. McCaskill wanted to open a dialogue with the students while the accuser/s demanded she apologize for signing the petition. They couldn't come to an agreement and that is when Hurwitz put her on admin leave.

You are correct, it is a tough situation..... a big mess really.
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Yup, and it is most complicated situation that I have seen.

I'm wonder about where Bienvenu and Smith from so I guess it will be likely Washington DC (may let check the white page).

I think it is very silly to ask apology about sign the petition because McCaskill signed it in personal matter, not representative of university, also we may need law to make sign petition as private or confidential.

I haven't chat with McCaskill when I was student, but I know her that follow the GLBT aka Rainbow Society to march and pride on Gallaudet campus, as McCaskill cheered us, also she was last line of us to march. I never know about McCaskill's personality until last week, that's really recent.

I just want know about what students are think about situation with Gallaudet University.
 
Foxrac said:
Yup, and it is most complicated situation that I have seen.

I'm wonder about where Bienvenu and Smith from so I guess it will be likely Washington DC (may let check the white page).

I think it is very silly to ask apology about sign the petition because McCaskill signed it in personal matter, not representative of university, also we may need law to make sign petition as private or confidential.

I haven't chat with McCaskill when I was student, but I know her that follow the GLBT aka Rainbow Society to march and pride on Gallaudet campus, as McCaskill cheered us, also she was last line of us to march. I never know about McCaskill's personality until last week, that's really recent.

I just want know about what students are think about situation with Gallaudet University.
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Well, like anybody there will be people for her and against her. But from what I have read and the people I have talked to most of the campus supports her.
 
jiro what is OCR and DOL???? :dunno:


Office of Civil Rights and Department of Labor???? :dunno:
 
airportcop said:
jiro what is OCR and DOL???? :dunno:


Office of Civil Rights and Department of Labor???? :dunno:
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Yeah, you know, the 2 leading legal authorities when someone names the person/s who confronts them in public. Big time federal crime! (sarcasm)
 
TXgolfer said:
Yeah, you know, the 2 leading legal authorities when someone names the person/s who confronts them in public. Big time federal crime! (sarcasm)
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actually it is - depending on the nature of it... such as hostile workplace... intention to cause emotional distress.

vvvveeeeeerrrrrrryyyyyyy illegal. oh and it's a state crime. the reason why they have such policy is because they're required to when receiving federal funding.
 
Jiro said:
actually it is - depending on the nature of it... such as hostile workplace... intention to cause emotional distress.

vvvveeeeeerrrrrrryyyyyyy illegal. oh and it's a state crime.
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No, releasing the name of the accuser would not be the crime....creating "emotional distress" or a "hostile workplace" would be the action. Even in those cases the remedy would be civil rather than criminal except for really extreme cases. In fact, even what the accusers have done would most likely not merit criminal charges. Except, of course, for potentially intimidating someone engaged in the political process.

But, if you can cite a criminal code where releasing the name of someone who publicly confronts you is a crime....all by itself.... I would love to see it.
 
Jiro said:
vvvveeeeeerrrrrrryyyyyyy illegal. oh and it's a state crime. the reason why they have such policy is because they're required to when receiving federal funding.
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A "state crime" based on receiving "federal funding" in the "District of Columbia".......

Interesting....
 
TXgolfer said:
A "state crime" based on receiving "federal funding" in the "District of Columbia".......

Interesting....
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did you miss the conjuction? notice that I said "and"?

in this case - well since DC is under jurisdiction of Congress... oh gee... that's federal government... which also includes OCR and DOL. oh gee! oh gee!
 
TXgolfer said:
No, releasing the name of the accuser would not be the crime....creating "emotional distress" or a "hostile workplace" would be the action. Even in those cases the remedy would be civil rather than criminal except for really extreme cases. In fact, even what the accusers have done would most likely not merit criminal charges. Except, of course, for potentially intimidating someone engaged in the political process.
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:lol: why are you repeating what I've said? Post #199 explains it all.

TXgolfer said:
But, if you can cite a criminal code where releasing the name of someone who publicly confronts you is a crime....all by itself.... I would love to see it.
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I already did. Scroll back.
 
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