French police report shootout and explosion in Paris

Reba said:
Those past events have nothing to do with the current Syrian refugee situation, other than to show that our federal intelligence is not catching all the clues when plots are being hatched.
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I was saying a few terrorists can do a lot of harm , if we let a 10 terrorists in from Syrian who know what they would do . Yeah that was point , we don't have the resource to do a background on all the Syrian refugee and some terrorists could slip in
 
whatdidyousay! said:
I was saying a few terrorists can do a lot of harm , if we let a 10 terrorists in from Syrian who know what they would do . Yeah that was point , we don't have the resource to do a background on all the Syrian refugee and some terrorists could slip in
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Most, if not all of them end up got busted and arrested, that happens frequently.
 
Reba said:
If they're planning an attack we certainly wouldn't deport them. Arrest them yes, but not deport. We don't want them to go free.


I did not say that.
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See #271 - removed = deported.

or they probably end up in Gitmo Bay.
 
Foxrac said:
See #271 - removed = deported.
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If they find a potential attacker they won't deport him. That's like freeing him to do his evil another day. That makes no sense.

or they probably end up in Gitmo Bay.
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They're trying to empty out GITMO; they aren't sending new people there.
 
Reba said:
If they find a potential attacker they won't deport him. That's like freeing him to do his evil another day. That makes no sense.


They're trying to empty out GITMO; they aren't sending new people there.
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I thought that the congress blocked the closure of Gitmo Bay?
 
Foxrac said:
I thought that the congress blocked the closure of Gitmo Bay?
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nope. Obama signed the order to shut it down but it's not really shut down. The Patriot Acts is limited right now... which is good!
 
Foxrac said:
I thought that the congress blocked the closure of Gitmo Bay?
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First, there's two different things.

1. The detention camp at GITMO

http://www.jtfgtmo.southcom.mil/xWEBSITE/index.html

2. Naval Station Guantanamo Bay

http://www.navy.mil/local/guantanamo/


No. 1 is a tenant command of No. 2. A tenant command is a smaller command that uses the physical and material support of the larger base.

That's separate from the base itself which is homeport to ships and serves other tenant commands.

President Obama wants to close down No. 1 and move the prisoners to a Stateside prison facility. His second desire is to eventually close down the entire station, No. 2, in order to please Castro.
 
Reba said:
First, there's two different things.

1. The detention camp at GITMO

http://www.jtfgtmo.southcom.mil/xWEBSITE/index.html

2. Naval Station Guantanamo Bay

http://www.navy.mil/local/guantanamo/


No. 1 is a tenant command of No. 2. A tenant command is a smaller command that uses the physical and material support of the larger base.

That's separate from the base itself which is homeport to ships and serves other tenant commands.

President Obama wants to close down No. 1 and move the prisoners to a Stateside prison facility. His second desire is to eventually close down the entire station, No. 2, in order to please Castro.
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In Bold, is it fact?
 
Foxrac said:
In Bold, is it fact?
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. . . "There is a growing concern on Capitol Hill that President Obama might also give in to another one of the regime's requests: the Guantánamo base," Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart tells Politico this morning.

. . . But if closing the prisoner-of-war camp is expected business in Obama's final year in office, giving the entire naval base back to Cuba would be a major shock. The U.S. has run a naval base on Cuba's southeastern tip since Teddy Roosevelt's days, holding an indefinite lease on the land for more than a century. (The Americans send Castro a $4,085 monthly rent check, but Cuba's government never cashes them.)

The Castro regime has made it clear that the naval base remains a major stumbling block to normalized U.S. relations. Just this past January, Raúl Castro said getting the base back would be a necessary first step toward diplomacy.

But Diaz-Balart and his colleagues say that should never happen. The latest defense bill out of the House even explicitly forbids the closing of Guantánamo Bay.
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http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/o...ut-will-he-give-the-base-back-to-cuba-7780550


"Cuba President Raul Castro said that if the United States wants to smooth relations, then the United States must first turn over Guantanamo Bay."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/29/raul-castro-to-obama-give-cuba-guantanamo-bay-and-/
 
Foxrac said:
I found it.

http://www.joemygod.com/2015/11/19/...m-americans-make-them-carry-special-id-cards/

That what caz saying about it.
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:ty:

". . . [Trump] also discussed the “unthinkable” security measures he believes will be necessary to monitor America’s Muslims in the aftermath of the Paris attacks. . ."

"Trump’s take on the Paris attacks fits with the rest of his doctrine. He’s promised to “bomb the **** out of” the jihadist group ISIS, which is based in Syria and has claimed responsibility for the attacks. Trump has also vowed to take an aggressive approach with Muslims here in the United States and suggested there should be a national effort to monitor mosques. He has spoken wistfully of the New York City Police Department’s mosque surveillance program, which was abandoned last year after generating substantial controversy."

". . . After Paris, Trump said “security is going to rule” in the United States, in order to take on what he calls “radical Islamic terrorism.” America has currently agreed to take in 10,000 refugees from the ISIS stronghold in Syria. However, if he is elected, Trump said he would deport any Syrian refugees allowed to enter this country under President Obama.

“They’re going to be gone. They will go back. … I’ve said it before, in fact, and everyone hears what I say, including them, believe it or not,” Trump said of the refugees. “But if they’re here, they have to go back, because we cannot take a chance. You look at the migration, it’s young, strong men. We cannot take a chance that the people coming over here are going to be ISIS-affiliated.”

". . . He also has concerns about the larger Muslim community here in the U.S., he said.

Yahoo News asked Trump whether his push for increased surveillance of American Muslims could include warrantless searches. He suggested he would consider a series of drastic measures.

“We’re going to have to do things that we never did before. And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule,” Trump said. “And certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”

Yahoo News asked Trump whether this level of tracking might require registering Muslims in a database or giving them a form of special identification that noted their religion. He wouldn’t rule it out.

“We’re going to have to — we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely,” Trump said when presented with the idea. “We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.”


Well, it looks like a lot of Trump's typical bluster. Some of his ideas are unconstitutional (like establishing a Muslim database), so I don't think they would fly.

I'm not sure how he would monitor mosques; he didn't say how he would do it.
 
Foxrac said:
Is it require to have congressional approval to closing the military base on GITMO?

I don't support base closing for GITMO.
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Well:

. . . Ending the lease on the base entirely would, of course, make the detention center go away. Whether President Obama can single-handedly end the American lease on Guantánamo Bay is a matter lawyers will contentiously debate. At least one attorney–Thomas Wilner, an expert on foreign policy–tells the Spanish-language CubaDebate that President Obama “does have the unilateral authority to do this,” though “it is highly unlikely that any head of state, Democrat or Republican, would end a deal like this without at least having the tacit approval of Congress.”

. . . But the constitutional ability for the President to single-handedly give it away before his term ends–if not the ability to do it courteously–is at very least debatable, and the move, analogous to handing over the Panama Canal, would finally cement President Obama’s (apparently desired) legacy as a 21st-century Jimmy Carter.
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Will Obama solve his GITMO problem by returning it to Cuba
 
House passes bill that could limit Syrian refugees

Washington (CNN) The House easily passed a bill Thursday that would suspend the program allowing Syrian and Iraqi refugees into the U.S. until key national security agencies certify they don't pose a security risk.

The vote was 289-137, with 47 Democrats joining 242 Republicans in favor of the bill, creating a majority that could override President Barack Obama's promised veto. It also faces an uncertain future in the Senate, where Minority Leader Harry Reid said he will try to block the bill.

The high number of Democrats voting against the White House is a clear sign Obama is increasingly isolated in his position on refugees in light of the ISIS terrorist attacks on Paris.

During his trip abroad this week, Obama has offered a forceful defense of the program and derided Republican opponents as being scared of "widows and orphans."

"We are not well served when, in response to a terrorist attack, we descend into fear and panic," Obama said in the Philippines on Wednesday. "We don't make good decisions if it's based on hysteria or an exaggeration of risks."

Republicans were determined to move quickly. House Speaker Paul Ryan told reporters "this is urgent. We cannot and should not wait to act, not when our national security is at stake."

The administration's veto threat "baffles me," Ryan said, "especially given the fact that his own law enforcement top officials came to Congress and testified that there are gaps in this refugee program."

Republicans also used the debate to criticize the president's approach to fighitng terrorism.

"The real problem is ISIL and the lack of a strategy," House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy said, adding it was "astounding" the president has yet to lay out a comprehensive approach to the threat in the Middle East.

Obama administration officials have been lobbying Democrats to oppose the measure.

FBI Director James Comey has expressed deep concerns about the bill, two U.S. officials tell CNN. Comey has told administration and congressional officials that the legislation would make it impossible to allow any refugees into the U.S., and could even affect the ability of travelers from about three dozen countries that are allowed easier travel to the U.S. under the visa waiver program, the officials say.

There are always risks in allowing any foreigners into the U.S., Comey told the officials, adding that the FBI believes it has an effective process with intelligence and other agencies to conduct vetting of refugees.

Reid says Democrats will block bill

It is unclear when the Senate will take up the measure, but Reid on Thursday said Democrats will attempt to block it.

"We've explained here in some detail. The problem is not with refugees," Reid said when asked if Democrats could support the House bill. "I don't think we will be dealing with it over here."

Reid's language suggests Democrats will use the power of their 46 seats to block the House bill from getting the 60 votes it would need to clear procedural hurdles in the Senate.

Senate Democrats told reporters they support two measures that would respond to the Paris attacks. One would prevent people who have been to Syria or Iraq in the last five years from entering the United States through the visa waiver program. The second would prevent people on the terrorism watch list from buying guns or explosives, something currently allowed, the Democrats said.
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More here: http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/19/politics/house-democrats-refugee-hearings-obama/index.html
 
Reba said:
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/o...ut-will-he-give-the-base-back-to-cuba-7780550


"Cuba President Raul Castro said that if the United States wants to smooth relations, then the United States must first turn over Guantanamo Bay."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/29/raul-castro-to-obama-give-cuba-guantanamo-bay-and-/
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The problem is Reb.

all nut case religious what ever they are psycho but call yourself Muslim Christian apparently you got one way ticket to heaven but if believer let's hope it hell..
This gentleman try going into that hotel in Mali carrying bible that be interesting
 
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/11/20/syrian-refugee-discusses-treatment-in-us.html
Twenty-five-year-old Syrian refugee Yamen Ghazal lives in Orange County, California. In 2014, he left Aleppo — Syria’s largest city now torn apart in the civil war between President Bashar al-Assad’s forces and opposition rebels — to take refuge in the United States. His parents and three siblings stayed behind and he has not seen them since.

“I couldn’t stay there. In Syria, after you finish university you are forced to join the army,” said Ghazal, who completed his studies in chemistry and worked as an assistant pharmacist there. “When you join the army, you either have to kill or be killed — I could not do that. I was not cut to kill.”

Ghazal entered the U.S. through Lebanon after receiving his tourist visa in January of 2014. He has since applied for asylum in the U.S., but says his status is still pending a final hearing that is scheduled for 2017.

“Everything is so strict. The first time my papers were not complete and I got rejected; then the second time because of my English, we had miscommunication, even the translator was not good. So now I’m waiting for the judge to hear my case again — but that’s not going to happen until two years from now. They said it’s either that or nothing,” said Ghazal.
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