French police report shootout and explosion in Paris

Foxrac said:
Yes, it will cost few thousands and I think that cross from Middle East to Central America with poor ship is fatal, is it true?
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Anything less than a commercial ship with a professional crew is impossible for refugees to make a safe voyage across the Atlantic.
 
Foxrac said:
That's true, I recall about people crossed into US had to pay several thousands.
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it's not the money that's a concern in here. it's how he can get here under the radar and then get resource once he's here. the most likely way for that to happen is to have a government backing and/or an extremely sophisticated international terrorist organization with substantial resource and certain key people in government agencies.

the major difference between Paris and America is that we're an "island". It's not easy for a foreign terrorist to come here undetected especially since after 9/11.
 
Mayors are turning away the refugees, the people are calling for deportations now. And they are addressing Obummer !
 
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Reba said:
No it isn't. The Christians are the victims of ISIS. They aren't the terrorists.
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If they allow Christians only and exclude Muslims, that's religious discrimination.

The moderate Muslims are victim of ISIS and a lot of moderate Muslims got executed by ISIS, along with Christians.
 
Foxrac said:
If they allow Christians only and exclude Muslims, that's religious discrimination.

The moderate Muslims are victim of ISIS and a lot of moderate Muslims got executed by ISIS, along with Christians.
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. . . ISIS militants on Aug. 7 captured the Christian workers in a village whose name is withheld for security reasons. On Aug. 28, the militants asked if they had renounced Islam for Christianity. When the Christians said that they had, the rebels asked if they wanted to return to Islam. The Christians said they would never renounce Christ.

The 41-year-old team leader, his young son and two ministry members in their 20s were questioned at one village site where ISIS militants had summoned a crowd. The team leader presided over nine house churches he had helped to establish. His son was two months away from his 13th birthday.

"All were badly brutalized and then crucified," the ministry leader said. "They were left on their crosses for two days. No one was allowed to remove them."

The martyrs died beside signs the ISIS militants had put up identifying them as "infidels."

Eight other ministry team members, including two women, were taken to another site in the village that day (Aug. 28) and were asked the same questions before a crowd. The women, ages 29 and 33, tried to tell the ISIS militants they were only sharing the peace and love of Christ and asked what they had done wrong to deserve the abuse. The Islamic extremists then publicly raped the women, who continued to pray during the ordeal, leading the ISIS militants to beat them all the more furiously.

As the two women and the six men knelt before they were beheaded, they were all praying.

"Villagers said some were praying in the name of Jesus, others said some were praying the Lord's prayer, and others said some of them lifted their heads to commend their spirits to Jesus," the ministry director said. "One of the women looked up and seemed to be almost smiling as she said, 'Jesus!'"

After they were beheaded, their bodies were hung on crosses, the ministry director said, his voice breaking . . .
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Christians crucified in Syria

. . . Hundreds of former Muslims in Syrian villages are in danger of being captured and killed by ISIS, which is fighting to establish a caliphate in which apostasy is punishable by death. The underground church in the region has mushroomed since June 2014, when ISIS began terrorizing those who do not swear allegiance to its caliphate, both non-Muslims and Muslims. Consequently, the potential for large-scale executions has grown along with the gains in ISIS-controlled territory. . .
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Muslim Syrian refugees can be welcomed by their fellow Muslims into nearby Muslim countries. Where can the Syrian Christians go?
 
Reba said:
Christians crucified in Syria

Muslim Syrian refugees can be welcomed by their fellow Muslims into nearby Muslim countries. Where can the Syrian Christians go?
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I aware about Christians had serious issue with Syria and Iraq, but there is legal issue.

You cannot exclude Muslims and only allow Christians, what about atheists, nonbelievers, Jewish and buddhist? The atheists and nonbelievers facing worst experience in Middle East and they are death to ISIS. I don't believe that law will going pass - you have choice - accept all refugees, regardless on religion or deny all refugees. Welcome Christians but deny other religions are religious discrimination.

Refugees could lie about their religion and they probably not questioned about religion until they arrive on US soil for screening. I don't believe that government has business to questioning about their religion. GWB accepted many refugees during Iraq War - most of them are Muslim.

Most Muslim countries aren't safe for moderate to liberal Muslims and they don't have resource to welcome them as refugee so they turn them to Europe or America. ISIS has strong presence in Middle East - that's not safe for moderate to liberal Muslims.

For me, I prefer to deny all of refugees and we have a lot of illegal immigrants so there aren't enough jobs or resources for them. I said that's enough, enough.

Edit: I'm fine with the refugee camps in Middle East to housing Christians and patrolled by troops until crisis resolves.
 
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