Formerly deaf piano teacher will play during a concert Sunday in Stillwater

jillio said:
What the hell is a "formerly deaf" piano teacher? I wasn't aware that deafness could be cured.
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I think it was the teacher who walked by a construction site when explosives were accidentally set off, and he claimed he lost all his hearing. After months of litigation, he was awarded millions in compensation. At the final meeting where he signed the papers, they asked him what his plans were. He signed, "First I will go to Brazil to party, then to the Netherlands for more of the same. Then I will go to London to drink and make merry, and finally I will go to the Lourdes fountain in France, where gentlemen, you will witness one hell of a miracle." :P
 
Beowulf said:
I think it was the teacher who walked by a construction site when explosives were accidentally set off, and he claimed he lost all his hearing. After months of litigation, he was awarded millions in compensation. At the final meeting where he signed the papers, they asked him what his plans were. He signed, "First I will go to Brazil to party, then to the Netherlands for more of the same. Then I will go to London to drink and make merry, and finally I will go to the Lourdes fountain in, France, where gentlemen, you will witness one hell of a miracle." :P
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:lol: I love a good story! Thanks!:ty:
 
Beach girl said:
Ameliorate: transitive verb: to make better or more tolerable

Yup. I've got $6,000 worth of equipment doing just that. So does this woman. She now has the opportunity to again hear the music she loves. Sure, when she takes the equipment off, she's still deaf. But when she puts it on, hey presto, the miracle of modern technology makes her life better.

Now I know you love to rain on other people's parades, and if you get a chance to call me a name, your day is just complete.

As for me, I hope this woman has a full house, and a wonderful evening to remember.
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I hope so, too. And from the looks of it she might just get a full house being so well known in her own church. God bless her. If she's happy with her implant, then she's happy.
 
"I am hearing the birds for the first time in years and years and the locusts and crickets,” Hannon said.

She's hearing things that she hasn't heard in years. She isn't "cured" but she is hearing things that she formerly was not able to. Doesn't bother me a bit that the writer used "formerly deaf." The emphasis is on function rather than the strict medical definition.

Just curious. How would you write the headline, Jillio or souggy or anyone who wants to take a stab at it? Given the demands of journalism to make a headline short, punchy and immediately understandable in summing up the story, how would you write it so as not to be "audist?"
 
jillio said:
I don't care how much you spend on equipment...you are not "formerly deaf."

Seeing as it's my life, and seeing as you have stated several times that people are allowed to define for themselves their own lives, I agree I'm not "formerly deaf," but I am certain my HAs ameliorate the condition of my loss of hearing to a very great extent. I believe that every single time I hear my husband's sexy voice, or enjoy a concert, or chat with my neighbors, or even train my dogs.

If someone else chooses to do otherwise, that's their business. As for me, I'll keep up with as much technology as I possibly can to make my life better than it would be otherwise.
And I am certain that you also believe, that thanks to technology, she is now living a life that is so much fuller and complete than those who do not use said technology.

I'm not comparing her to anyone else at all. I'm believing that she herself believes her own life is better now, because she said so. That's not a value judgment on anyone else. The article kokonut posted even mentioned how rich and full her life was during the many years she lived with her hearing loss. She's had a life many would envy, full of interesting travels and purposeful work.

ASL ameliorates deafness for many more than does CI.

So? She also knows ASL, which you would know if you had bothered to read the link kokonut posted. What do the respective numbers of who is helped by what have anything to do with it?



My point was against the wording of the title.

So how would you word it?

Your are the one that jumped in with your response without even a clear understanding of the ways in which you, yourself are audist.

So shame on me, eh? I think it's more that I lack a clear understanding of the many and varied ways in which I disagree with you, but I'm working on it. Can't take the heat? Stay out of the kitchen.

And, as I stated before, amelioration does not make one "formerly deaf".
To be "formerly deaf" one would have to be deaf no longer.
Which, guess what, is exactly the effect of using HAs and CIs, from a functional, rather than a medical, standpoint.

If you want to discuss semantics and post dictionary meanings in a poor attempt to make your point, you would do well to pay attention to those meanings.
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I honestly do not know why you continually want to stir up divisiveness and antagonism between people who use HAs or CIs vs. those deaf/Deaf who do not. No one else here is as consistently rude as you are in berating people who make choices you don't approve of, for whatever reason. Competent professionals generally don't stoop to that sort of constant name-calling.
 
Beach girl said:
I honestly do not know why you continually want to stir up divisiveness and antagonism between people who use HAs or CIs vs. those deaf/Deaf who do not. No one else here is as consistently rude as you are in berating people who make choices you don't approve of, for whatever reason. Competent professionals generally don't stoop to that sort of constant name-calling.
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Given the fact that you claim to be a former English teacher, and have exhibited an undue interest in grammar and dictionary definitions, I would think you would be concerned over a phrase like "formerly deaf" being used. It is incorrect, misleading, and impossible.

I, frankly, don't care how you choose to ID yourself. That is for you to decide. Makes no differnce to me whatsoever. My concern is the use of obviously audist language being used to transmit misperceptions of what deafness is and how the majority of the deaf view themselves.

You can live the rest of your life being an impaired hearing person if you so choose. Make not a whit of difference to me, or frankly, to anyone else. What does concern me is the widespread use of audist language (that you seem to consider to be so innocent) that has served to keep the Deaf oppressed for 100'sof year.Got a problem with me speaking out about that. Oh, well. It's yours to deal with.

I again state, there is no such thing as "formerly deaf" and the public portrayal of such language by those who obviously have no understanding of deaf issues, yet feel compelled to write about them, does nothing more than reinforce the audist attitude that is already far too prevalent.
 
jillio said:
Given the fact that you claim to be a former English teacher, and have exhibited an undue interest in grammar and dictionary definitions, I would think you would be concerned over a phrase like "formerly deaf" being used. It is incorrect, misleading, and impossible.
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Two words: Oral Roberts. My great aunt used to watch him.
 
Beach girl said:
"I am hearing the birds for the first time in years and years and the locusts and crickets,” Hannon said.

She's hearing things that she hasn't heard in years. She isn't "cured" but she is hearing things that she formerly was not able to. Doesn't bother me a bit that the writer used "formerly deaf." The emphasis is on function rather than the strict medical definition.

Just curious. How would you write the headline, Jillio or souggy or anyone who wants to take a stab at it? Given the demands of journalism to make a headline short, punchy and immediately understandable in summing up the story, how would you write it so as not to be "audist?"
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Strangely silent....although I'm not overly picky about this headline. Others easily go into an apoplectic fit. Headlines certainly made readers want to take a closer look at the article. Isn't that what "journalism" is all about?
 
kokonut said:
Strangely silent....although I'm not overly picky about this headline. Others easily go into an apoplectic fit. Headlines certainly made readers want to take a closer look at the article. Isn't that what "journalism" is all about?
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You wouldn't be picky about the headline. You support audism and contribute to its existence on a daily basis.
 
Beach girl said:
Ameliorate: transitive verb: to make better or more tolerable

Yup. I've got $6,000 worth of equipment doing just that. So does this woman. She now has the opportunity to again hear the music she loves. Sure, when she takes the equipment off, she's still deaf. But when she puts it on, hey presto, the miracle of modern technology makes her life better.

Now I know you love to rain on other people's parades, and if you get a chance to call me a name, your day is just complete.

As for me, I hope this woman has a full house, and a wonderful evening to remember.
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I guess her life is much better than mine for sure. For your info, the miracle of modern technology doesn't make my life better...
 
jillio said:
You wouldn't be picky about the headline. You support audism and contribute to its existence on a daily basis.
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But Jillo you STILL have not said what you would write for the headline of this story if assigned to do so.
 
KarissaMann05 said:
I guess her life is much better than mine for sure. For your info, the miracle of modern technology doesn't make my life better...
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I love you just as you are, Karrissa. And I know that your life is full, productive, and meaningful even if you aren't "formerly deaf."
 
Jane B. said:
But Jillo you STILL have not said what you would write for the headline of this story if assigned to do so.
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How about "deaf CI using piano teacher gets back to business"? Certainly more accurate and less audist that "formerly deaf."
 
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