FL. Loses Appeal in Terri Schiavo Case

Toonces said:
And the more I read about Michael and how he behaved around his wife, the more madder I am. How can he say he is a loving husband who deeply loves his wife but his actions speak otherwise??? Taking Terri's wedding ring to melt it down and make one for himself?? Put down Terri's healthy cats (and ignored Terri's parents' pleadings to take them in and care for them) but keep his own dog alive, etc??? He don't even let them clean Terri's teeth since 1995! He truly do not deserve Terri at all!! :pissed:

hmmm....It seem that he doesn't...
 
^Angel^ said:
hmmm....It seem that he doesn't...


Yeah. Sorry about my rant, folks. I kept finding out more about Michael and it always made me mad how he treated her so shabbily.


So, no more rants from me, lol. ^^;;
 
Toonces said:
Yeah. Sorry about my rant, folks. I kept finding out more about Michael and it always made me mad how he treated her so shabbily.


So, no more rants from me, lol. ^^;;

Don't worry about it, you're doing just fine! ... :hug:
 
She was named Theresa Marie, after Saint Theresa of Avila, but they called her that only when they were mad, which was almost never.

She drew pictures of dogs and horses, Bambi and Thumper, and her Labrador puppy, Bucky.

She grew up in a four-bedroom colonial on a half acre in the suburbs of northeast Philadelphia.

Overweight most of her life, she would cry when she had to buy school clothes.

She loved to peel skin after a sunburn.

She could keep a secret.

Her eyes are brown.

She attended Our Lady of Good Counsel school, where short, stout Sister Idalea knew the best way to pull a kid's hair to make it hurt.

She loved a boy named V.J. Mandez, but he did not love her back.

She learned to drive in a Ford Country Squire station wagon.

She got cold easily. She kept a blanket on the bed even in summer.

She once ran into the house crying because she had run over a rabbit. No one could console her. Her father went outside, came back, and said she was mistaken, there was no dead rabbit in the road. When she finally calmed down and left the room, her dad said, "Man, she nailed it."

She drank nearly a gallon of iced tea a day.

She read Danielle Steele novels. In their defense, she would say, "They are not Harlequins."

She liked to drive her T-top Trans Am past construction sites. She liked blonds.

She slept with her back to the window, so if she was murdered in the night she would not see it coming.

She weighed 200 pounds when she graduated from Archbishop Wood High School.

On her first real date, with a guy named Michael Schiavo, her brother and his friend stood on the front lawn and cheered.

She met Michael her second semester at Bucks County Community College. He was a year older, a foot taller and blond. He was the first guy who ever noticed her.

She has her mother's bushy eyebrows.

At Christmas, she would sneak around the house trying to find where the presents were hidden. Her father set up a train around the tree.

They said grace before dinner and had roast beef on Sundays.

She wrote a letter to John Denver asking him to sing at her wedding. He never wrote back.

She was not a great cook. She made a banana cake with green bananas and laughed when everyone told her how horrible it was.

She clerked at Prudential Insurance in Pennsylvania and in Florida, but wanted a job with animals.

She always made someone else kill the roaches.

Michael proposed after five months of dating. Her parents thought they were too young.

She was married Nov. 10, 1984, at Our Lady of Good Counsel Church in front of about 250 guests. It was the wedding she had always wanted, except that she refused to wait for warmer weather so she could have a horse and carriage. The tuxedos were gray.

She collected Precious Moments figurines.

When her Christmas tree was crooked, she called her dad for help. He told her to go buy a tree straightener. She called all over looking for one.

Before college she lost more than 50 pounds on a NutriSystem diet.

When she was about 7, her brother Bobby threw a brick at her head and made her cry.

Bobby locked her in a suitcase once and couldn't get her out. He ran for their mom while the suitcase jumped up and down, screaming.

She drove 30 minutes out of her way five days a week to visit her grandmother in a nursing home.

Her friends teased her that at the beach she was always the one the sea gull pooped on. "Don't lie next to me," they would say.

She worked at a dry cleaner in high school.

The movie Jaws made her cry. She was terrified of the ocean for the rest of her life.

Her gerbils were always getting loose and winding up in the air conditioning unit in the basement.

She was born Dec. 3, 1963, the first child of Robert and Mary Schindler. Robert was a salesman, mostly. Mary stayed home with Terri, and then Bobby and Suzanne.

On Saturdays, she went to Mass with her mother.

She was not strong and would not work out.

She bought her brother Bobby his first Bruce Springsteen record, Darkness on the Edge of Town, in 1978. He's been a fanatic ever since.

She always wanted to be a veterinarian and wrote TV zookeeper Joan Embry for advice. Embry said to finish college.

An average student, she dropped out of junior college.

She saw doctors for a benign lump in her breast, a wart on her toe and dizzy spells.

As a child she would spend hours in her room arranging her stuffed animals.

She loved Wham!

When Bucky the Labrador collapsed, she performed mouth-to-nose resuscitation on him. He died in her arms.

She and Michael lived in her parents' basement in Pennsylvania, then in a condo her parents owned in Florida. They paid rent, $400 a month, when they could.

She saw An Officer and a Gentleman four times in one day.

She quit using birth control in 1989 but did not get pregnant.

She is allergic to Benadryl.

She had an intolerance to salad and dairy products.

The night before her wedding, her father sat on the floor of her bedroom and watched her sleep. He was crying. She knew he was there, but never told him.

She loved the TV show Starsky and Hutch so much that she and her friend Sue Pickwell wrote hundreds of letters to Paul Michael Glaser. He, or his people, eventually wrote back.

At 26, she was 5 feet 4 and weighed 110 pounds. When she took off her shirt at night, Michael could see her bones.

She dyed her hair blond and bought a bikini.

She went to clubs with her brother because Michael worked nights. When guys hit on her, she would giggle, grab her brother and say, "I'm here with my boyfriend."

She had neat handwriting.

She had a good tan.

When she rode on the back of Bobby's motorcycle, she held on so tight she left marks on his skin.

Early on Feb. 25, 1990, she collapsed on the floor in the hallway outside her bedroom, gasping.

- Information for this story came from interviews with Terri Schiavo's brother, Bob Schindler Jr., and her childhood friend Diane Meyer, and from court transcripts, Newsday and the Associated Press.



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WBHarley said:
Miss*Pinocchio

Please provide a LINK or URL too!
not only copy and paste due of copyright some of the website/newspapers/etc wants to have their credits too!.. please provide link as you read their sites/newspapers so I also can find the source from! if it was paid one...


I am sure Many people in many websites, forums, newspapers want to make sure their link were included too because of the copyrights and If it happen to mine too I would make sure the link is provided included which I always do!

I can't speak for her, Wendy, but I have to confess that I also copy/paste articles, because, it's easier for me to do so. I don't know how to provide links, so I just copy and paste the articles. :Oops:

If someone could show me how to include links, I'd be happy to include them.

Thanks. :)
 
more recent update.

Updated: 06:28 PM EST
Schiavo Parents Seek Divorce for Daughter
Parents Plan More Legal Activity in Right-to-Die Case

By VICKIE CHACHERE, AP

CLEARWATER, Fla. (Feb. 28) - Terri Schiavo's parents asked a judge Monday to allow the severely brain-damaged woman to divorce her husband, accusing him of adultery and not acting in his wife's best interests.

It was one of a flurry of 11 motions filed by Bob and Mary Schindler, who have less than three weeks to find a way to keep their daughter alive.

Michael Schiavo says his wife, who has spent 15 years in what doctors call a vegetative state, once told him she would never want to be kept alive artificially. Her parents have fought his efforts but Pinellas Circuit Court Judge George Greer ruled that Schiavo can have her feeding tube removed on March 18.

The Schindlers' attorney, David Gibbs, said Greer had indicated he will not hear the divorce request and five of the other motions filed Monday, but that only means that the matters are now on their way to being appealed.

Appearing at a rally in Jacksonville, the Schindlers called on Gov. Jeb Bush to look into the circumstances that led to their daughter's 1990 collapse and asked Attorney General Charlie Crist to investigate whether Terri Schiavo's civil rights have been violated.

"We have filed divorce proceedings because of (Michael Schiavo's) total disregard for Terri as his wife," Bob Schindler said. "He is married to Terri, but he is living with another woman and he has two children by her. It has become quite obvious that his priorities are not in Terri's best interest."

"Remaining married to him is an embarrassment," Gibbs said.

Michael Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, called the new motions little more than an attempt to clog the case with further delays. Felos has said even if Michael Schiavo were to divorce his wife, any new guardian would be obligated to remove Terri Schiavo's feeding tube because the court has ruled it is her wish not to be kept alive artificially.

"I think everyone knows the parents are going to try anything, including throwing in the kitchen sink, to frustrate the court's final judgment and Terri's wishes," Felos said.

Other motions by the Schindlers ask that some news reporters be allowed to see Terri Schiavo's interactions with her parents, since they contend she responds to them; that they be allowed to take pictures with her before she dies and that those photographs not become Michael Schiavo's property, as a current court order now requires; that she be allowed to die at home; and that they be allowed to bury her rather than the cremation her husband has planned.

(Associated Press Writer Ron Word in Jacksonville contributed to this report.)


02-28-05 18:15 EST

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Liebling:-))) said:
Have you heard any news about Terri yet?

Everything is still in limbo. As of right now, there's the March 18th date set by the judge to remove Terri's feeding tube, but the Schindler's have filed several motions to try and stop it. There's more court appearances this week, so we should know something soon about what is going to happen next.
 
"Attorneys for Barb and Mary Schindler have filed 17 affidavits in support of their motion to allow medical evaluations to be performed on Terri in light of recent advances in medical technologies...The affidavits were from neurologists, physicians and other experts in the medical field...Many of those have stated that there is a strong likelihood that Terri is in a minimally conscious state..."
For updates, you can always go to
http://terrisfight.org/
 
While in Florida I saw Terri Schiavo's parents and Terri on Dateline, The parent thought that straving was a cruel way to end someone's life even their daughter, and it was sad watching it, and feeling their pains. I understood where they are coming from. :(
 
You know, I thought Judge Greer would agree to have Terri examined by the doctors because of the new and improved medical technology we have today. But he said no, and I was really surprised - I thought he would at least allow the medical examinations to be carried out to be proved once and for all whenever she does have miminal conscious state or not. Tsk, tsk on him. Come to think of it, does Terri ever had MRI yet? There was nothing said about her having MRI in th past. :/

And there's Florida Department of Children and Families (DCF) who declared that they wanted to investigate the case in which Terri is possibly abused. To do so, they're asking for a 60-day stay on Greer's order. Because the court are not authorized to prevent DCF from investigating, Judge Greer is legally bound to grant the stay. If he refused, he will be preceived as trying to interfere the investigation (or worse yet, tampering with evidence by ordering Terri Schiavo's death). So it remains to be seen whether Judge Greer will have to allow the DCF to investigate the case or not.

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Question and answer:

If Terri hasn't recovered after all these years of therapy, why not let go?

Terri hasn't had meaningful therapy since 1991, but many credible physicians say she can benefit from it.

Liebling:)))'s opinion: LET HER GO! Because she cant talk and dont know what she stand between her husband and her parents. All what is they fighting in the court. What a sad! Simple is: Husband should let Terri's parent to have her instead of battle in the court. ***shake the head***

Why can't Terri just divorce?

Terri's husband/guardian speaks for her. She cannot divorce without his permission

Liebling:)))'s opinion: Why divorce? because of that "guardian"? I would let my parents in law to take care of my wife if I am Terri's husband. ***shake the head***

Does Terri have an advanced directive or any wishes about her healthcare?

Terri never signed any directive or living will and there is no evidence that she foresaw her present situation.

Liebling:)))'s opinion: Logically, Terri understand NONE! She know nothing what her husband did to her is want her die and also know nothing what her husband and her parents battle over her in the court.

Why do Terri's family fight to keep her alive? Shouldn't they let her husband decide?

Terri's husband has started another family and probably has gone on with his life. Terri's family want to provide her therapy and a safe home.

Liebling:)))'s opinoin: Exactly, that's what I said above. If parents want to keep her then let them to have her then.

Is Terri receiving life support?

Not in the traditional sense. Terri only receives food and fluids via a simple tube.

Liebling:)))'s opinion: Very sad that Terri has no life like this. I really dont know what should I say. I would write a will to tell my parents and husband to let me go because I know it's no life for me. I had the feeling that Terri would want it but she CANT talk. Its sad.

Isn't removing her tube a natural and dignified way to die?

No. Dehydration and starvation cause horrific effects and are anything but peaceful. Read more here.

Liebling:)))'s opinion: Well, pull feed tube to let her staving is an abuse. They should do SOMETHING to put her "sleep" without suffer if the court is agree to let her die.

http://terrisfight.org/




I'm not agree to have feed tube to pull out to let her staving to death because it's an abuse. :madfawk:
 
I don't agree with how the court should allowing for someone to die? They are not God, therefore it doesn't give the court any right to order anyone to die expect God alone. Terri is no criminal, why there will be an order to end her life? It's like murdering an innocent person. We all know she is brain dead but that doesn't give anyone a right to end someone's life just because she cannot have a life of her own. It might not be her time to go yet, But that shouldn't have left in the hands of the court or the people, It's is Terri's life. Since when do people own a person(s)? Ordering when/how to die? Makes no sense to me.
 
Cheri said:
I don't agree with how the court should allowing for someone to die? They are not God, therefore it doesn't give the court any right to order anyone to die expect God alone. Terri is no criminal, why there will be an order to end her life? It's like murdering an innocent person. We all know she is brain dead but that doesn't give anyone a right to end someone's life just because she cannot have a life of her own. It might not be her time to go yet, But that shouldn't have left in the hands of the court or the people, It's is Terri's life. Since when do people own a person(s)? Ordering when/how to die? Makes no sense to me.
You see america is a strange country. First they convict Dr Kevorkian for life in prison for assistant suicide. Then they pull the plug on the girl in florida, So i think Dr Jack Kevorkians lawyer should go to the supreme court and argue this case and get him released out of prison. He should argue to the justices if state of florida can commit assistant suicide why cant Dr.Kevorkian ?
 
Well said, deaflibrarian.

It helps nothing to cure Terri. Simple let her GO. I'm sure that Terri would like to have her peace.

I already talked to my hubby about Terri's condition. We agreed that I let him die and he let me die because we deserve to have our peaceful instead of suffer with that drugs they put us to remain alive. No Way.

I'm sure that I mentioned in my earlier posts here about my friend's son who have dead brain after work accident. It's very hard for my friend to let him go and remove some of his organ for donation because it's her son's wish to have his organ donation and her son doesnt deserve to remain alive with those drugs because it NEVER cure him.

I kept on reading some of links over Terri's condition and realized that it's unfair for Terri to receive the drugs to keep her alive which everyone knows it would NEVER cure her healthy.

It's sad to see that husband and parents battle each other in the court over her because she dont know what she stand because her brain is dead. I cant image that she can talk with that part of brain dead. Simple let the parents to have Terri if they want to take care of her to let husband go to have his own life with a new family.
 
Beowulf said:
"Attorneys for Barb and Mary Schindler have filed 17 affidavits in support of their motion to allow medical evaluations to be performed on Terri in light of recent advances in medical technologies...The affidavits were from neurologists, physicians and other experts in the medical field...Many of those have stated that there is a strong likelihood that Terri is in a minimally conscious state..."
For updates, you can always go to
http://terrisfight.org/

Thanks for link but I cant open the video where you linked because work computer were blocked so I will look it when I'm home from work.
 
Very very very sad.......

I was horrifed after read this link from other link.

http://www.operationrescue.org/schiavo/

They said something what they saw mother and Terri in video. I cant wait to go home to open my home computer to see the video where Beowulf's link shown.
 
Here's the scoop on this ongoing Terri Schiavo case:

Schiavo's Parents Push for New Rulings

I'm surprised that Judge Greer won't even consider letting the Schindlers take pictures of Terri in case she dies. WTF? How can he be so cold toward her parents and deny them anything they asked concerning their daughter? :confused:
 
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