FL. Loses Appeal in Terri Schiavo Case

[Liebling:-)))]

Terri's husband is so stupid, he is wasting so much time fighting to
remove her tube. He needs to give up and concentrate on his family.
That is sad.... the family members and him are fighting over this
for years....

Michael is only making himself look like a monster.

I'm afraid, I has to agree with you

Yes, it's stupid condtion really.

I think it would be save the hassle if husband agree to let his wife's parents to take care of her instead of fighting and end at court because her parents want.

 

[WBHarley]

Liebling )))


for few years I been reading about Terri, I do feel for her and her parents also for her husband but ONE thing I can add or two!...


Michael told to Doctors, Nurses etc do not do any therapy. so They don't know if she's really braindead or not because No one has been working with her.. because Michael refused to hire any workers to do any therapy with her.. Only her parents has been very patiently waiting!

According to Florida law (in terri's website and also someone provide in here somewhere in these 7 pages) that Terri's parents can't take over because Michael refuse to divorce her! so.. He want's the $$$.. and He does NOT want to spend anymore money so He can keep the $ for him, his girlfriend and their children.. HE ACTUALLY is cheating on his own wife! If he doesnt want her in his life He should Divorce her and let her parents take over!!

Now for the general ADers here's my opinions:

If my children were brain dead and IS NOT able to do anything after I have done details works with therapist etc, I would pull plugs etc

BUT Terri she already had her life support pulled out years ago! and Look at her she's able to breath on her own! meaning she's trying so hard.. but in my view after working in a group home for almost 2 years. I can see it is alot of work for person to do therapy with a client..

Terri lives in a nursing home/hospice area in florida where michael put her there! and left her there doing nothing!! but I like to read more " update on what she has been doing not in past!" it is such a sad when no one can do something but doc just "check in and out" thats it.. They should do something...

I still can't vote for either let her starve to death or let her live.. because I don't have all the details to read "nowdays!"

Oh I also read in Terri's website I notice they add 2 or 3 more video of her I do see she may have a little improvement.. but Who knows If there's any improvement..

Let's hear today's decision at 5 pm or before..


aww darn thing that Terrifight's Website was down:
some copy and paste:

Thank you for visiting terrisfight.org, the official website of the Terri-Schindler Schiavo Foundation and the Schindler family.



Due to unprecedented volumes of web traffic, the main site is temporarily offline. We apologize for any inconvenience as we work to overcome these technical difficulties.

Usually at http://www.terrifight.org


Wendy

 

[WBHarley]

I re-read and think that Terri was care taken by her husband then return to Woodside Hospice because her husband cant cope it anymore. Correct?

Transfer from Hospital to Nursing home..

He will not take care of her AT their home at all!

Knowing MEN's way... (NOT all men but few men) They can't take care of themselves either, they prefer let someone else take care of wives, childrens..

some men believe in Women should be in barefoot, pregnant, cooking, cleaning , take care of kids etc and Take care after their husband like OLD DAYS....


sad is it ??

Wendy

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Thank you for explaining clear, Wendy. I got goose pimple when I read over Terri's condition.

Michael told to Doctors, Nurses etc do not do any therapy. so They don't know if she's really braindead or not because No one has been working with her.. because Michael refused to hire any workers to do any therapy with her.. Only her parents has been very patiently waiting!

Doctors/Nurses listen Michael? It's doctor job do SOMETHING when they KNEW they CAN improve Terri with therapy IS inform Public Healthy Department then they will get court order to give the doctor as guardian to take care of Terri. I cant see the sense why the doctors do NOTHING for past 15 years before the problem blow big and end in court etc like what the whole posts in this thread mentioned because Terri's parents object Michael for let Terri starving to death. Why cant the parents and doctors do SOMETHING at YEARS ago instead of waiting for 15 years. Why 15 years

According to Florida law (in terri's website and also someone provide in here somewhere in these 7 pages) that Terri's parents can't take over because Michael refuse to divorce her! so.. He want's the $$$.. and He does NOT want to spend anymore money so He can keep the $ for him, his girlfriend and their children.. HE ACTUALLY is cheating on his own wife! If he doesnt want her in his life He should Divorce her and let her parents take over!!

This is a disgusting

If my children were brain dead and IS NOT able to do anything after I have done details works with therapist etc, I would pull plugs etc

Yes, I second that. Brain dead is "wake coma" They do NOTHING with brain brain that's what I know from my friend. (see my earlier post about my friend's son).

I still can't vote for either let her starve to death or let her live.. because I don't have all the details to read "nowdays!"

It's wrong to let her starve to death but put her "sleep" to save suffer.

Transfer from Hospital to Nursing home..

He will not take care of her AT their home at all!

Knowing MEN's way... (NOT all men but few men) They can't take care of themselves either, they prefer let someone else take care of wives, childrens..

some men believe in Women should be in barefoot, pregnant, cooking, cleaning , take care of kids etc and Take care after their husband like OLD DAYS....


sad is it ??

Wendy

Thank you for explain about Nurse home and hospitail. I was doubted when I read some of posts's links.

yeah, I'm lucky that my husband dont do that. Yes, I'm agree that I also know some of men do NOTHING.

 

[WBHarley]

Attorney: State seeking Schiavo delay

Friday, February 25, 2005 Posted: 8:08 AM EST (1308 GMT)

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Mary Schindler, left, kisses her daughter, Terri Schiavo, in an August 11, 2001, photo.



TAMPA, Florida (AP) -- An attorney for the parents of Terri Schiavo say Florida's social services agency is seeking a 60-day delay in the removal of the woman's feeding tube while it investigates new allegations of her abuse and neglect.


More Source

 

[WBHarley]

according to OceanBreeze with the Fluid

In the final analysis, the difficult question that faced the trial
court was whether Theresa Marie Schindler Schiavo, not after a few
weeks in a coma, but after ten years in a persistent vegetative state
that has robbed her of most of her cerebrum and all but the most
instinctive of neurological functions, with no hope of a medical cure
but with sufficient money and strength of body to live indefinitely,
would choose to continue the constant nursing care and the supporting
tubes in hopes that a miracle would somehow recreate her missing
brain tissue, or whether she would wish to permit a natural death
process to take its course and for her family members and loved ones
to be free to continue their lives. After due consideration, we
conclude that the trial judge had clear and convincing evidence to
answer this question as he did.

found at Bush Vs Schiavo (source in law) (must with PDF) Read more about the case of Terri in court.. I still am reading all about her!

More to add:

Schiavo vs Bush another court documents

Statement by Michael Schiavo This link was october 20, 2003

Empire Journal on Michael Schiavo This link was Feb 7, 2005

Evidence of Physical Abuse Haunts Michael Schiavo Feb 10, 2005 about body scan..

I could go on for more.. but I have to take my mother in law for her physical appointment then take my son to have his blood test drawn.. I ll be back later..


Wendy

 

[Toonces]

I re-read and think that Terri was care taken by her husband then return to Woodside Hospice because her husband cant cope it anymore. Correct?

Almost. I found an article (from last year). According to it, Terri used to be in a nursing home for 10 years where she received good care. Then Michael transferred her to Woodside Hospice (without permission from the court) and her parents are complaining she is not receiving good care there.

Here's the link: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37992



EDIT: Oh, WBHarley already answered your question. Oh, well.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Almost. I found an article (from last year). According to it, Terri used to be in a nursing home for 10 years where she received good care. Then Michael transferred her to Woodside Hospice (without permission from the court) and her parents are complaining she is not receiving good care there.

Here's the link: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37992

I got it. It's very sad to read your link!!! Thanks for bring the link. I do not agree to let her starving to death by remove feeding tube. They should put her "sleep" to save suffer only if Terri's healthy cant improve anything.

but but but......

The doctors from Woodside Hospice do NOTHING because Michael says so is total WRONG. It's doctor's job task to inform Public Healthy Department then they will go to court to get court order automaic to give the doctors as guardian to therapy her...... Like what I said to Wendy in my post (see above).

 

[Toonces]

I understand, Liebling))

If Terri is in extreme pain and suffering too much, it is understandable if she is allowed to die. But since she is not in pain and is not even dying, so that is why I thought she would be best to be with her parents and not with Michael whose his motives are questionable. e_e But if she HAD written any will that she wishes to be allowed to die, it is also understandable and I wouldn't make a fuss about it. But well, she hasn't, so it is what makes this so crazy, with fighting in the court and all. :S

 

[WBHarley]

I understand, Liebling))

If Terri is in extreme pain and suffering too much, it is understandable if she is allowed to die. But since she is not in pain and is not even dying, so that is why I thought she would be best to be with her parents and not with Michael whose his motives are questionable. e_e But if she HAD written any will that she wishes to be allowed to die, it is also understandable and I wouldn't make a fuss about it. But well, she hasn't, so it is what makes this so crazy, with fighting in the court and all. :S

agreed with you Toonces, If there was a written will about her not wanting to live. I would have respect... It's like there is 2 side of stories, that you can't put it together! I Just wish they done more than just "lay back" but I have done add more links.. I want to do more researches..

As I am a busybee mama! LOL (remember a friend always calls me "busybee"


Wendy

 

[Beowulf]

Bake me some cookies while you are at it, Mama Busybee! hee hee
I get the feeling there are three sides to a story, though, one side, the other side, and the truth.

 

[Toonces]

I get the feeling there are three sides to a story, though, one side, the other side, and the truth.

That's true. We may never know exactly which story is true...only Terri herself knows, and she couldn't talk. :/

 

[Liebling:-)))]

That's true. We may never know exactly which story is true...only Terri herself knows, and she couldn't talk. :/

Good point. It's sad!

 

[Oceanbreeze]

The Judge is butt covering again

Florida Woman's Feeding Tube to Stay in Place

TAMPA, Fla. (Feb. 25) - A Pinellas Circuit Court judge has extended the stay keeping Terri Schiavo's feeding tube in place until March 18. The development came two days after her parents sought court protection to keep their son-in-law from ordering doctors to remove the feeding tube. The tube keeps the 41-year-old disabled woman alive.

Pinellas Circuit Court Judge George Greer issued the stay until 1 p.m. March 18. He made his decision after pleadings from Bob and Mary Schindler that they need more time to pursue additional medical tests which might prove their daughter has more mental capabilities than previously thought.

The Department of Children & Families was also seeking to intervene in the case. Attorneys for the Schindlers said the agency wanted a 60-day stay to investigate allegations she is being mistreated by being denied appropriate medical care and rehabilitation.

The Schindlers and their son-in-law have fought each other in court since the late 1990s on whether Terri Schiavo should live or die. The two sides have battled on every level of the Florida court system, through scores of opinions and rulings and tens of thousands of pages of filings.

Friday's decision came on the 15th anniversary of her collapse when a chemical imbalance caused her heart to stop beating.

The Schindlers do not believe their daughter is in a persistent vegetative state as court-appointed doctors have ruled. Michael Schiavo says he is seeking to carry out his wife's wishes not to be kept alive artificially.


02-25-05 15:05 EST

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I find the link about Terri.... Very sad story

http://www.mccl.org/terris_fight_1.htm

 

[The*Empress]

I bet Terri's family are very very hurt by this.
TO have watch their daughter died slowly.

Michael is brave to do this... cause
people would get shot for being cruel like that. :roll:

 

[Toonces]

I bet Terri's family are very very hurt by this.
TO have watch their daughter died slowly.

Michael is brave to do this... cause
people would get shot for being cruel like that. :roll:

I don't think he is exactly brave...I mean, there is nothing noble about being brave for putting his wife to death. : P

I don't know if it means Terri's parents will have enough time to have the hospital conduct medical testings to see how much mental capabilities Terri has. It is probably not exactly a victory for Terri's parents, nor is it exactly victory for Michael, either. Judge Greer just wanted to wash his hands of this case and walk away from it with no thought for the outcome. :P


And the more I read about Michael and how he behaved around his wife, the more madder I am. How can he say he is a loving husband who deeply loves his wife but his actions speak otherwise??? Taking Terri's wedding ring to melt it down and make one for himself?? Put down Terri's healthy cats (and ignored Terri's parents' pleadings to take them in and care for them) but keep his own dog alive, etc??? He don't even let them clean Terri's teeth since 1995! He truly do not deserve Terri at all!!

And here's the link so you will know why I am ranting about! Michael Schiavo Attorney Justifies Affair, Leaving Terri For Another Woman


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[The*Empress]

If Terri died after her tube is pulled, I hope her ghost spirit will haunt
Michael for the rest of his life. :madfawk:

 

[WBHarley]

march 18th..

got to read some more.........


Wendy

 

[Oceanbreeze]

march 18th..

got to read some more.........


Wendy

Yup, Wendy. They have until March 18th. After that, either there will be more court filings, or Michael can authorize the doctors to remove her g-tube.