FL. Loses Appeal in Terri Schiavo Case

[Cheri]

I wonder if, someone is goin' to shoot/kill Terri's husband by hirin' hitman for mistreatment on his wife ? Or possibly threats on him ??

When someone like Michael murder someone, I believe in death penalty so I wouldn't care if someone shoot Michael, I guess justice would done him good. Michael married Terri for better and for worse in sickness and health and he wants her dead? just because he has no faith in her or her process if she would took more therapy. Only person I applause is Chris's Reeves wife who stood by her husband no matter how hard it got.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

It sure doesn't show you are on Terri's side, You even said that Terri needs to go, Is that what Terri wants? Just because Michael says that is what Terri wants.

No, I'm on ONLY Terri's side, not Michael and Terri's parents. I feel sorry for Terri total because she doesnt know what her estrangled husband and parents had through out is battle in court OVER her because she CAN'T talk. Oh please!

I already answered in my previous post:

I see no reason why should anyone accuse Michael or Terri’s parents for liar, etc because we can’t prove anything either Terri’s parents and Michaels claim is true or not. The problem is Terri CAN’T talk.

I think battle in the court would be save only if Michael agrees to leave his legal guardianship to Terri’s parent. .

Cheri's post
Within weeks after Terri's collapsed, he filed in court for her to die, That is not being on his wife's side. So you call that normal? Not to me it isn't normal when someone gets married and take their vows it should have been for life, therefore some people do not take their vows seriously what a shame. By 1995, Michael was in love with and living with another woman, whom he had been seeing for about two years. They would eventually have a child. That is cheating.

It took Michael 5 years waiting to find someone? Michael did not find someone quickly shortly after Terri collapsed ? I think Michael has the right to move on his life. Terri has the right to go to have her peaceful after suffering.

Sorry, I has to disagree one point what you stated "marriage vows" because it's a HUGH difference between awake coma/severe brain damage and kind of illnesses like what I said in my previous post. Should anyone sit and watch helpless patient for YEARS and YEARS which they know it's no success for them to cure with thearpy because awake coma/severe brain damage is sort of "dead" and "helpless" body with no talk, emotion, etc that's what I saw on the TV. Anyone has the right to start their new life after death of their partners or awake coma/severe brain patient because we KNEW we CAN'T do anything to get them back normal.

Within weeks after Terris's collapsed, he want her die??? Who say this? I didn't know about that but I only know that he asked the court for permission to let Terri die in 1997 on the same year after Michael's mother died of cancer in 1997. ?

I already answered in my previous post:

As Cheri’s long post, I can see that Michael did tried to get her care like what German medias says. He did take her to specialists across this whole country and nothing could be done. Most doctors said, nothing could be done.

the point is Michael gave up too early he didn't wait this was the second time he wanted Terri to die to die.

Is it too early to give up after 3 YEARS therapy? Sorry, I don't want to know what the medias say anything against Terri's parents or Michael because those media pissed me total. It's Terri, I care about, not parents or Michael because Terri is an adult and helpless between her parents and her estrangled husband.

It's Terri, I consider my feeling to and search to know cons/pros about her then decide myself what good for her without listen medias, period.

I think it's very cruel to make medias/scandals against Terri's parents OR Michael, that hurt their feeling because the supporters are on Michael's side and other supporters are on Terri's parents's side. It's unfair situation.

 

[Cheri]

Liebling)),

Michael is the one who got the media invovled because he filed in court weeks after Terri collapsed, and they did stopped the feeding tube before until the Parent went to court to stop it and the court put it on hold. It was Michael the one who made everyone involved, the court, the American people and the media. If he would have done it privacy, Let natural cause do it works then none of this would have happen to begin with. I have no heart for Michael at all, I think he is one low-greedy selfish husband. And the reason why I am on Terri's parent side because they love her and have faith in her, they didn't give up hope. I think there is more to the story that Michael hasn't told the truth behind it's doors. We might will never know, maybe the truth will come out later and who is to blame? The court the people who took Michael's side. I'll be damn if that happened.

 

[Cheri]

It took Michael 5 years waiting to find someone? Michael did not find someone quickly shortly after Terri collapsed ? I think Michael has the right to move on his life. Terri has the right to go to have her peaceful after suffering.

But in 1995 he was already living with the woman he was with for 2 yrs. so that means he might have been seeing her during the two years before he was living with this woman in 1995.

Sorry, I has to disagree one point what you stated "marriage vows" because it's a HUGH difference between awake coma/severe brain damage and kind of illnesses like what I said in my previous post. Should anyone sit and watch helpless patient for YEARS and YEARS which they know it's no success for them to cure with thearpy because awake coma/severe brain damage is sort of "dead" and "helpless" body with no talk, emotion, etc that's what I saw on the TV. Anyone has the right to start their new life after death of their partners or awake coma/severe brain patient because we KNEW we CAN'T do anything to get them back normal.

How is that huge differences? If Chris Reeves's wife stood by her husband, then Michael could too. If people want to get married they should have thought about the vows in sickness and in health before saying "I do".

Within weeks after Terris's collapsed, he want her die??? Who say this? I didn't know about that but I only know that he asked the court for permission to let Terri die in 1997 on the same year after Michael's mother died of cancer in 1997. ?

Yes, you are right, I got confused why it says within weeks at first and then it says 1997 after Michael's mother died from cancer he filed to stop the feeding tube, and in 2000 the court approved. I was confused by the link it provide the story and it did says weeks after Terri was collapsed.

Media really confused me those days, I don't know rather to stick my foot up my anal or what. hahahaa!

 

[Liebling:-)))]

But in 1995 he was already living with the woman he was with for 2 yrs. so that means he might have been seeing her during the two years before he was living with this woman in 1995.

Oh I see! I didn´t know because I thought Michael found a woman in 1995. mmmhhhh.... It sounds no good what Michael did.

How is that huge differences? If Chris Reeves's wife stood by her husband, then Michael could too. If people want to get married they should have thought about the vows in sickness and in health before saying "I do".

Well, you can´t compare Christopher Reeves with Terri because Chris was only paralysed, not brain damaged.
Chris can talk, have emotion, feeling, love, sex and of course made a film in 1998 of the “Alfred Hitchcock” triller after horse accident. He had good talent and have everything but one thing is he CAN´T walk. The worst is Terri: She CAN´T have everything what Christopher Reeve had.
I would take care of my husband with those situation like this because he CAN talk, have feeling, love etc.

Yes, you are right, I got confused why it says within weeks at first and then it says 1997 after Michael's mother died from cancer he filed to stop the feeding tube, and in 2000 the court approved. I was confused by the link it provide the story and it did says weeks after Terri was collapsed.

Media really confused me those days, I don't know rather to stick my foot up my anal or what. hahahaa!

Yeah, That´s why I´m careful and don´t want to jump and accussing anyone without think twice.

Don´t worry, Medias is Medias

 

[Cheri]

Well, you can´t compare Christopher Reeves with Terri because Chris was only paralysed, not brain damaged.
Chris can talk, have emotion, feeling, love, sex and of course made a film in 1998 of the “Alfred Hitchcock” triller after horse accident. He had good talent and have everything but one thing is he CAN´T walk. The worst is Terri: She CAN´T have everything what Christopher Reeve had.
I would take care of my husband with those situation like this because he CAN talk, have feeling, love etc.

Yes, that is true but Chris Reeves's wife have said at the begin when Chris had the accident and was paralysed she didn't know what to expect to happen to him and she have said she would stood by him 100 percent, no matter how bad the result will be for her husband. So that is what I am talking about standing up for your spouse no matter what happens, be there for your spouse, care of your spouse and support your spouse. Only thing Michael have done was brushing her teeth, washing her face, alittle bit of therapy and then he wants her to die by straving. I mean who in the world would do that to their spouse. That is like making Terri suffering even more without food and water. If he have asked for another way around like make her rest in peace instead of straving her by removing her feeding tubes that is not a caring and loving husband anyone would want. That's my point I am trying to make here.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Yes, that is true but Chris Reeves's wife have said at the begin when Chris had the accident and was paralysed she didn't know what to expect to happen to him and she have said she would stood by him 100 percent, no matter how bad the result will be for her husband. So that is what I am talking about standing up for your spouse no matter what happens, be there for your spouse, care of your spouse and support your spouse. Only thing Michael have done was brushing her teeth, washing her face, alittle bit of therapy and then he wants her to die by straving. I mean who in the world would do that to their spouse. That is like making Terri suffering even more without food and water. If he have asked for another way around like make her rest in peace instead of straving her by removing her feeding tubes that is not a caring and loving husband anyone would want. That's my point I am trying to make here.

I understand and agree that Dana is a wonderful lady.

I am not agree to let Terri starving to death after feeding tube removed because it´s CRUEL ad ABUSE. Yes, I know it´s WRONG what Michael did because he should suggest SOMETHING instead of pull feeding tube to let his wife starving to death.
One thing, I really don´t understand the court because the judge should know better that it´s an abuse to let Terri starving to death. I would consider it as murder what the judge/Michael did. Those condition make me feel sick.

I already told my husband to do something to put me sleep gentle like what the vets did to pets instead of pull feeding tube to starving to death.

 

[Cheri]

Yes I agree Liebling)) hon,

The judge and the court broke the law, I was and am very surprise that they let that happen, I guess they don't know how that feels until they are in Terri's place. It's a shame that the judge and the court allowing something so cruel to take place, when they should know alot better than that, You cannot take someone's life and end it with cruelty, when Terri never commit a crime. I wondered why the government of Florida let that happen too. My gosh Florida governement really shut me off big time, I have no respect for either the judge, the court or the govern of Florida. None respect.

You know I had a dream last night about this whole thing, I was in Florida and wrote on the bullet board by the highway that Florida justice center are murders! hehehehe.....

 

[Cheri]

PINELLAS PARK, Fla. (March 24) -- The U.S. Supreme Court turned down Terri Schiavo's parents Thursday, declining to intervene to keep the brain-damaged woman alive, but their supporters pressed a last-ditch effort in Florida courts.

Justices didn't explain their decision, which was received by somber supporters outside the woman's hospice with bowed heads and prayers for help from Gov. Jeb Bush.

''The governor is disappointed (at the Supreme Court decision) and will continue to do whatever he can within the law to save Terri's life,'' Bush spokesman Jacob DiPietre said.

Schiavo's husband, Michael Schiavo, had urged the high court Thursday not to intervene because her case has been endlessly litigated. This was at least the fifth time the nation's high court has declined to get involved in the Schiavo case.

The appeal by her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, was part of a rush of legal activity in the unprecedented right-to-die struggle.

The custody request by Bush was made before Circuit Judge George Greer, who has presided over the case for years and ordered the feeding tube removed last month. Greer planned to decide by noon Thursday on whether the case would go forward.

He issued an emergency order Wednesday to keep the Department of Children & Families from reconnecting the tube.

Also Thursday, David Gibbs III, the attorney for the Schindlers, filed an amended version of his still-pending civil rights lawsuit against Michael Schiavo and others in federal court in Tampa.

''The new claims raised are even more insubstantial than the old claims,'' said George Felos, Michael Schiavo's attorney. He said he is hopeful the case will soon be peacefully settled and criticized state officials.


Where the Case Stands


Terri Schiavo's Health
The brain-damaged woman's feeding tube was removed March 18 upon orders from her husband, Michael Schiavo. Doctors said she probably would die within a week or two from the date of the removal.

Supreme Court: Her Parents' Appeal
Bob and Mary Schindler asked the U.S. Supreme Court to order their daughter's feeding tube to be reinserted. The court refused to intervene. The decision represented at least the fifth time the justices declined to take on the case.

Florida Courts: Governor Acts
Citing new allegations of neglect and challenging Schiavo's diagnosis, Gov. Jeb Bush sought court permission to take custody of Schiavo and presumably reinsert her feeding tube. A county circuit court judge rejected the request.


''It saddens me greatly that we have to run to court to get court orders to protect Terri Schiavo from the abuse of the state of Florida,'' Felos said. ''The conduct of the executive branch of the state of Florida has been reprehensible in this case.''

The parents have frantically tried to reconnect the tube, which was removed six days ago. Doctors have said Schiavo, 41, likely would die within a week or two at her hospice.

''There is no legislative and legal option open to us now. ... Gov. Bush is now the only practical hope for Terri Schiavo. Let us pray now for that,'' the Rev. Patrick Mahoney, a Schindler family advocate, said after the Supreme Court acted

I guess I was wrong about Gov. Bush after all I thought Gov. Bush has more power to stop it since he is a governor? I am also mad at the The U.S. Supreme Court, What the hell they turned it down?

 

[Cheri]

I ran out of spaces....


There is more to the story,

Gov. Bush and the state's social services agency filed a petition in state court to take custody of Schiavo and, presumably, reconnect her feeding tube. It cited new allegations of neglect and challenges Schiavo's diagnosis as being in a persistent vegetative state. The request is based on the opinion of a neurologist working for the state who observed Schiavo at her bedside but did not conduct an examination of her.

The neurologist, William Cheshire of the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, is a bioethicist who is also an active member in Christian organizations, including two whose leaders have spoken out against the tube's removal.

I like Gov. Bush and I hope he can save her before she dies. *praying*

 

[CrazyMomma]

It's shame!! It's horrible to watch people died from starvation.

 

[Maria]

When someone like Michael murder someone, I believe in death penalty so I wouldn't care if someone shoot Michael, I guess justice would done him good. Michael married Terri for better and for worse in sickness and health and he wants her dead? just because he has no faith in her or her process if she would took more therapy. Only person I applause is Chris's Reeves wife who stood by her husband no matter how hard it got.

Of course, I would let that happen to him without protest against it if, someone shoot/kill Terri's husband for mistreatment on his wife. I will NOT feel sympathy for him, only Terri.

Of course - speakin' of marriage itself, it supposed to be carryin' a vow until either a wife or husband die by natural cause. Marriage is a committment. He should give Terri a chance by attendin' therapy to help her to get well. I don't think that he has a good patience to do that. It apparently to me that he just wants to move on with a new life like wantin' to spend the time with his woman ... the woman who can move, talk, tease, argue ( normal like every couple ), sex, and all that are really movin'. Terri don't have all that -- to which I fully could understand her situation.

I believe that Terri's husband don't have the heart to be patience and have the virtue to care for his wife. He shows how selfish he really is by bein' ignorance. There's no such love in him. That's sad to see !

 

[Toonces]

It's so disheartening, seeing there was no other options left for Terri's parents to do now. Even if Governer Bush is willing to take Terri under his protection, Judge Greer would still stand up and declare NO, he will not allow anyone to come near Terri except Michael only. That is just terrible, terrible. I'm so depressed, I couldn't post anymore articles. I just can't take it.

I say DOWN with judicial tyranny!

 

[net0man]

Why do you posted when you don't read the last post that was posted that you haven't read yet? Anyways its not that far back in pages.

http://www.alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=302239&postcount=342

thanks for the link. i regret to say that i dont believe in most of the article because it is too opinionated. the author has no document or proof to support arguments.

 

[net0man]

The parents are selfish. That's the bottom line. I find this absolutely terrifying.

i totally agree with the above msg.

 

[Cheri]

i totally agree with the above msg.

The parent are not selfish, Are you a parent yourself? I know Oceanbreeze isn't, It's easy for her to judge the parent when she isn't a parent herself. If you aren't either what do you know? I apology for being harsh but I am sick and tired of people easy judge the parent when they aren't a parent themselves to understand that those parent are only loving/caring for their daughter is that a crime?

 

[Cheri]

It's so disheartening, seeing there was no other options left for Terri's parents to do now. Even if Governer Bush is willing to take Terri under his protection, Judge Greer would still stand up and declare NO, he will not allow anyone to come near Terri except Michael only. That is just terrible, terrible. I'm so depressed, I couldn't post anymore articles. I just can't take it.

I say DOWN with judicial tyranny!

I really do know how you feel, some of us here are feeling the same way as you are feeling, It is just so digested how cruelty punishment is for Terri. I don't understand Florida or some American people who agrees to with putting her on death row. It breaks my heart, I don't know how they can live with that themselves what they have done to Terri.

 

[Toonces]

Thanks, Cheri. Yeah, it is just too sad. *Hugs back*

 

[Cheri]

Of course, I would let that happen to him without protest against it if, someone shoot/kill Terri's husband for mistreatment on his wife. I will NOT feel sympathy for him, only Terri.

Of course - speakin' of marriage itself, it supposed to be carryin' a vow until either a wife or husband die by natural cause. Marriage is a committment. He should give Terri a chance by attendin' therapy to help her to get well. I don't think that he has a good patience to do that. It apparently to me that he just wants to move on with a new life like wantin' to spend the time with his woman ... the woman who can move, talk, tease, argue ( normal like every couple ), sex, and all that are really movin'. Terri don't have all that -- to which I fully could understand her situation.

I believe that Terri's husband don't have the heart to be patience and have the virtue to care for his wife. He shows how selfish he really is by bein' ignorance. There's no such love in him. That's sad to see !

Right on CyberRed!

And Toonces, You are sure welcome

 

[Oceanbreeze]

The parent are not selfish, Are you a parent yourself? I know Oceanbreeze isn't, It's easy for her to judge the parent when she isn't a parent herself. If you aren't either what do you know? I apology for being harsh but I am sick and tired of people easy judge the parent when they aren't a parent themselves to understand that those parent are only loving/caring for their daughter is that a crime?

You're right, Cheri. I have no children. However, this is NOT as easy for me as you might think. I am disabled. I could find myself in a similiar situation as Terri is. We all could. I do feel for the Schindlers. However, they have repeatedly indicated that if Terri had a living will, they would not abide by it. This is the reason I believe the parents are selfish. They have litigated this case for seven years. They are the ones who refuse to accept the court's rulings to such a degree that Terri has been reduced to nothing more than a political football.

I just hope that when this is all over, the rest of us learn from Terri's mistake, and state our wishes explicitedly and in writing.

I'm doing it. Have you done it?