FL. Loses Appeal in Terri Schiavo Case

[Angel]

"It's not all of these other people. There's four people on the other side, who say she can't be rehabilitated. All were paid individuals. Three by George Felos..." {quoted by HAMMESFAHR, Nobel Prize nominee}

This smells of 'conspiracy'....

If each one of us can carefully read the interview by Hannity with Dr. Hammesfahr...he does point out that there is the likelihood of Terri's state of condition being greatly improved in Codger's post...need I say anymore???

Peace out.

Yep, I sure read it, and find it quite interesting too hon....

 

[Angel]

I just think it's best that she should die instead of having those kinds of machines that keeps her alive for the rest of her life and it would just take many years to do research on getting her to talk, stand up, walk, etc...

The only machine she is using is the feeding tubes cause she can't feed herself that's why....now they're starving her to death...

If I had wings, I will fly to turn on the feeding tubes and give her some water! cause starving someone is murder!

 

[Reba]

***nodding agreement***, That´s what my German co-workers said the same today. We talked about her half day today and realized that we have to let Terri go.

It's suspicious that Michael didn't remember Terri saying that she would want to die until after Michael found a new woman and started making babies with her.

Michael is a man. It´s natural for him to need company. It´s impossible for him to sit to watch Terri rest of his life. I beleive that Terri would not want him to do that.

Michael is a dog. There have been many men who faithfully watched over sick wives for many years. It is not impossible. We have a friend who faithfully watches over and takes care of his wife with Alzheimers for many years, at his own expense, with no complaints or resentment.

Nobody expects Michael become "monk" and faith to his wife.

We expect Michael to honor his marriage vows: "for better, for worse, in sickness and in health." Men are not animals; they can have self-control.

I know Terri would never want him like this.

How do you know what Terri would want? Did she tell you?

 

[Angel]

It's suspicious that Michael didn't remember Terri saying that she would want to die until after Michael found a new woman and started making babies with her.


Michael is a dog. There have been many men who faithfully watched over sick wives for many years. It is not impossible. We have a friend who faithfully watches over and takes care of his wife with Alzheimers for many years, at his own expense, with no complaints or resentment.


We expect Michael to honor his marriage vows: "for better, for worse, in sickness and in health." Men are not animals; they can have self-control.


How do you know what Terri would want? Did she tell you?

Thank you Thank you Thank you Reba, I'm so glad you are here!!!! ::: pulling up the red carpet :::... I totally agree with you girl

 

[Nancy]

It's suspicious that Michael didn't remember Terri saying that she would want to die until after Michael found a new woman and started making babies with her.


Michael is a dog. There have been many men who faithfully watched over sick wives for many years. It is not impossible. We have a friend who faithfully watches over and takes care of his wife with Alzheimers for many years, at his own expense, with no complaints or resentment.


We expect Michael to honor his marriage vows: "for better, for worse, in sickness and in health." Men are not animals; they can have self-control.


How do you know what Terri would want? Did she tell you?

You couldn't have said any better, Reba. I agree that Michael is a dog....men who really cared about their wives when they are like in Terri's conditon would've stuck by them because they truly loves their wives. Michael obviously doesn't care about Terri at all and their marriage vows.

 

[Angel]

Go Nancy you rock girl!

 

[GalaxyAngel]

Applauding you 100%

I do truly agree you more.....

What make him decison and want her DIE ?? I bet he run after Terri's will $$$

without notorzited noted ?

 

[Reba]

One more point.

Why does Michael insist that Terri's body be cremated immediately after she dies? What's his hurry? What is he trying to hide?

Terri and her family are devout Catholics. They are opposed to cremation.

 

[Angel]

One more point.

Why does Michael insist that Terri's body be cremated immediately after she dies? What's his hurry? What is he trying to hide?

Terri and her family are devout Catholics. They are opposed to cremation.

He does?.. ...

I think he's hiding something too, I mean why in a hurry?.... :roll:

I don't believe anything that her husband says at all....He's a murderer period!

 

[Cheri]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7273739/

‘Please let my daughter live’
Supporters of Schiavo’s parents grew increasingly dismayed, and 10 protesters were arrested outside her hospice for trying to bring her water.

“When I close my eyes at night, all I can see is Terri’s face in front of me, dying, starving to death,” Mary Schindler said outside the Pinellas Park hospice. “Please, someone out there, stop this cruelty. Stop the insanity. Please let my daughter live.”

My gosh what a cruel world we living in, All those protesters that care about her wants her to live, becaused they know that it is a cruel punishement for Terri. People got arrested just for bringing her water?

 

[GalaxyAngel]

Is pain ?? *curiouis*

my friend told me.. body is numb... no feeling pain..

how can she feel when really hungry?? she would wail for hungry as condiser "baby's type"

 

[Cheri]

Is pain ?? *curiouis*

my friend told me.. body is numb... no feeling pain..

how can she feel when really hungry?? she would wail for hungry as condiser "baby's type"

Yes, She would be able to feel herself being hungry because, when a person is straving the body is crying out for food. I don't know about pains, but people say it painless how would they know? They have to walk in her feet to feel how she would be feeling, But she will slip in coma I believe.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

It's suspicious that Michael didn't remember Terri saying that she would want to die until after Michael found a new woman and started making babies with her.

Liebing))
“Suspicious” is not acceptance because I don’t believe those word “suspicious”. All is I take nobody’s side but accept the BOTH sides. I would not accuse/suspicious someone for that until the proof is there. I noticed that people have bad imaginable/make bad pictures/nasty remark over people after believe medias between one and other’s side. All what I do is search to find out either therapies work on severe brain damage patient successful or not in the websites MYSELF and get the doctor to tell me the truth AND listen BOTH sides, not one side. I’m NOT on Michael or Terri’s parent’s side but it's Terri, I’m care about.

I see no reason why should anyone accuse Michael or Terri’s parents for liar, etc because we can’t prove anything either Terri’s parents and Michaels claim is true or not. The problem is Terri CAN’T talk.

I think battle in the court would be save only if Michael agrees to leave his legal guardianship to Terri’s parent. Yes, I know Michael can’t divorce his disabled wife accord law but I see nothing wrong when he wants to get married again to start a new life with his family because he is young man.

I don’t think what Michael did is bastard for wanting to move on with his life and start family with his woman.

As Cheri’s long post, I can see that Michael did tried to get her care like what German medias says. He did take her to specialists across this whole country and nothing could be done. Most doctors said, nothing could be done. I’m NOT on Michael’s or Terri’s parents side! It's Terri, I'm care about.

Those situation (battle in court) really pissed me total because of those against medias.

Michael is a dog. There have been many men who faithfully watched over sick wives for many years. It is not impossible. We have a friend who faithfully watches over and takes care of his wife with Alzheimers for many years, at his own expense, with no complaints or resentment.

Liebling))
No, Michael is a human, not animal.

One thing you forget quickly. How old is Michael as Terri collapsed in 1990? Michael paid for Terri’s care for 3 years but he gave up his hopes because Terri’s treatment is not success.

How old is your friend's wife as she got alzheimer?

You can’t compare Alzheimer with severe brain damage because Alzheimer patients can walk and talk. I would take care of my husband when he has Alzheimer, Parkinson disease, etc. but with severe damage/awake coma is a HUGH difference.

Michael's condition is a different because he was 26 years old which it's burden on his young age but he did strength with those situation which he had been through and tried his best.

Please check that link:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/3/22/161026/285

We expect Michael to honor his marriage vows: "for better, for worse, in sickness and in health." Men are not animals; they can have self-control.

Liebling))
Sure, but I think it’s selfish to get my husband to watch me rest of his life when he’s the same age as Michael. I mean from 20 years old but older people are a different.

Let Terri go and have her peace and save suffering.

Let Michael go to start a new life with a woman and start family with her.

I would of disgust IF Michael found other woman and have a new life with her FEW WEEKS OR MONTHS after Terri collapsed in 1990 but he didn’t until 1995. I think it's normal for Michael to need someone to have company.

To me, I think it’s selfish to own my husband & children to take care of me rest of their life. I want my husband and their children consider their own life because they should deserve their happy and life when I’m in Terri’s shoe. I know the therapy would NEVER work on SEVERE brain damaged successful. I am interesting to know either anyone who CAN cure SEVERE brain patients successful before Terri? If yes, how many % successes? Perhaps it took 20 or 30 years to cure severe brain damaged? How long partner waiting and build their hopes? 20 or 30 years? It’s suffered. It’s selfish of me to get my husband and children to watch me rest of their life and hope therapy would work success on me. No Way!

How do you know what Terri would want? Did she tell you?

Liebling))
It’s my feeling. Many people have the similar feelings after learn a lot about Terri’s case.

And then I am wondering: how long would you devote yourself to your partner for if he/she was in a coma-like state for years and years? What’s point would you give up or what?

I'd really like to hear what you all think of this.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

One point is I'm not agree that pull feeding tube to let starving to death because it's an ABUSE and CRUEL. The doctors should do something like what the Vets did with pets is put them sleep to save their suffering.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

i second above msg. make sure ur living will is notarized. my wife and i talked about our wishes and we need to write up living wills. copies are availabe on internet.

to stir things up, read the link below: (bear in mind, dont believe everything u read or hear cuz i think the nurse exaggerated)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1006944/posts

Yes, I has strange feeling when I read those link. It's hard to beleive. Why can't nurse do SOMETHING like inform doctors when she "withness" Michael's word "when bitch die".....

I really don't understand those whole situation.

1. Why can't the doctors inform Heath Department at YEARS AGO if they know for the sure that therapy would success Terri's health and disagree with Michael?

 

[Cheri]

I’m NOT on Michael or Terri’s parent’s side but it's Terri, I’m care about.

It sure doesn't show you are on Terri's side, You even said that Terri needs to go, Is that what Terri wants? Just because Michael says that is what Terri wants.

I would of disgust IF Michael found other woman and have a new life with her FEW WEEKS OR MONTHS after Terri collapsed in 1990 but he didn’t until 1995. I think it's normal for Michael to need someone to have company.

Within weeks after Terri's collapsed, he filed in court for her to die, That is not being on his wife's side. So you call that normal? Not to me it isn't normal when someone gets married and take their vows it should have been for life, therefore some people do not take their vows seriously what a shame. By 1995, Michael was in love with and living with another woman, whom he had been seeing for about two years. They would eventually have a child. That is cheating.

the point is Michael gave up too early he didn't wait this was the second time he wanted Terri to die to die.

 

[Maria]

I wonder if, someone is goin' to shoot/kill Terri's husband by hirin' hitman for mistreatment on his wife ? Or possibly threats on him ??

 

[Angel]

This is why there has to be better ways to die than to "starve" by death. That is why everyone is so emotional about Terri, this thought of starving to death.

I would like to bring your attention to Sun Hudson. He was on a respirator, had been for several months, and the doctors shut it off even though his mother didn't want it shut off. The fact no one got all upset and emotional about it was because one cannot live without breathing for more than a few minutes and therefore Sun died quickly so his death was “quick and painless,” and Sun didn’t “suffer” like Terri is because she’s without food or water, thus “starving to death” which is not a painless way to die.

I don't quite understand why you compare Terri's case to this one here when this is totally different, Terri is breathing on her own, she is unable to feed herself that is why she is on the feeding tubes, and yes, starving someone to death is a cruel act of murder period and another thing is, how do any of you know that this is what Terri wants? Did she ever said this to you personally ? NO, she didn't . I bet you Terri has no clue what is happening to her and why she is not being fed, and another thing to look at is how can a parent go to bed every night knowing their child is out there starving themselves to dealth? :::sigh:::

None of you have no idea what its like to be in Terri's shoes, it may be so darn easy to sit here and say, hey's its just a machine...

I know there's more to what is being said by the husband and I do feel within my heart that the husband is hiding something, He doesn't care about her, he doesn't love her, but some of you people believe that he does, how do any of you know that? you guys never live with them, you don't know what is going on behind the closed door of Terri's and Michael's marriage...

I don't believe a second that Terri actually told her husband she wants to die, he couldn't even remember it and then he waited until after he had a girlfriend and said " yeah, she told me she wants to die " doesn't that tell any of you something here?


Edit Another thing to look at is, God gave those doctors tools to use for patients who need it to keep them alive and without those tools, they would die....

 

[Angel]

I wonder if, someone is goin' to shoot/kill Terri's husband by hirin' hitman for mistreatment on his wife ? Or possibly threats on him ??

I couldn't care less cause he's a muderder period!

 

[Maria]

I couldn't care less cause he's a muderder period!

Oh, yeah of course - I wouldn't care, either.