Feeling depressed?

[Your Mom]

God healed two deaf people to become hearing! It happened in about 6 yrs ago. They live an hour away from here.

Yeah and the same people knock on my door and tell me they want to introduce me to Jesus, but he is no where to be seen. Is he in the car waiting?

 

[darkangel8603]

There are some christians way out of line. Here is the questions...... Who is Luke in the Gospel? He was a doctor, he went to care for he sick and give medicines. Who give the gift of a person to make medicines? Where the medicines coming from? From many kinds which God has made for a purpose? Even Paul wrote, I think to Timothy, to give a person some wine to cure of the sickness and not give water, bec upsetting the stomach. Yes, the church I went, deaf friend of mine ha serious cancer. And we prayed for her, not the way Benny Hinn are doing which many ways I don't approve of him, but different way of praying, it was like several month later, the doctor was puzzled and said it can't be like that already, which her cancer were completely gone. Then the other church I visited, one of the interpreter's sister had huge tumor size as of basketball, its deadly cancer, but her life was thought be over, was healed and no sign of them. Both of the churches I mentioned is baptist. God has His own time in many different ways. The only way, you can be comfort thru series of depression, go to the Word of God, its not split sec thing, its a daily process of comfort, Charles Spurgeon, of his book he wrote, it is a devotion, mostly about depression, lost th loved one, afflictions and ailments and more, called " Beside Still Waters----Words of Comfort for the soul." It is a good book, to enable each of us. He was the pastor in England during mid to late 1800s. So, thru ark times, Christ been there and He is there with you. Smile

ok u said that god can heal diseases or disorder that is caused by sin, why didn't he answer my prayers or heal my grandmother who is sick with lung cancer and is dying in a hospice. Why didn't he heal my grandmother to get better? Why didn't he heal me to relieve me of my bipolar that is supposely caused by some sin ( note the sarcastism) When you can answer those questions, and not some stupid comments that you made up or whatever shit cuz i dont fucking want ot hear that.. When you can answer this, then I will believe that my bipolar is a sin!, but for now it not gonna happen.

 

[SxyPorkie]

ok u said that god can heal diseases or disorder that is caused by sin, why didn't he answer my prayers or heal my grandmother who is sick with lung cancer and is dying in a hospice. Why didn't he heal my grandmother to get better? Why didn't he heal me to relieve me of my bipolar that is supposely caused by some sin ( note the sarcastism) When you can answer those questions, and not some stupid comments that you made up or whatever shit cuz i dont fucking want ot hear that.. When you can answer this, then I will believe that my bipolar is a sin!, but for now it not gonna happen.

Good Post!!
SxyPorkie

 

[JohnnyE]

ok u said that god can heal diseases or disorder that is caused by sin, why didn't he answer my prayers or heal my grandmother who is sick with lung cancer and is dying in a hospice. Why didn't he heal my grandmother to get better? Why didn't he heal me to relieve me of my bipolar that is supposely caused by some sin ( note the sarcastism) When you can answer those questions, and not some stupid comments that you made up or whatever shit cuz i dont fucking want ot hear that.. When you can answer this, then I will believe that my bipolar is a sin!, but for now it not gonna happen.

In order for your grandma to begin the process of healing. She needs the Salvation, The saving grace of Jesus Christ. Read the tracts closely at http://www.chick.com then you need to give your heart and life over to Jesus Christ then the healing process begins. You will need to go to a very good Bible believing KJV Holy Bible Holy God inspiring church. God Bless .....

 

[sculleywr]

If u believe this, then how come ur still deaf? Nor I have seen any deaf person got miracle healed by God thru this today.

We do not know this man in the bible and we do not know if he was trully deaf alike rest of us. Maybe his deaf were caused by dirt in both ears? It did not explain deeply.

I am not deaf. I am borderline HOH because of OME, something that will be cleared up in the next few weeks, and that was in the days that Jesus was on the earth in His human form. Dirt in his ears does not explain his speech impediment. Even a person who was deaf because of OME and didn't get tubes in his ears to drain the fluid out until they were twenty won't have immediately have gained the ability to speak clearly the day they have the fluid out. A person with dirt in his ears can hear the words he is saying through vibrations through his bones and into the middle ear.

 

[SxyPorkie]

I am not deaf. I am borderline HOH because of OME, something that will be cleared up in the next few weeks, and that was in the days that Jesus was on the earth in His human form. Dirt in his ears does not explain his speech impediment. Even a person who was deaf because of OME and didn't get tubes in his ears to drain the fluid out until they were twenty won't have immediately have gained the ability to speak clearly the day they have the fluid out. A person with dirt in his ears can hear the words he is saying through vibrations through his bones and into the middle ear.

Oh Boy!!! you are defiinitely brainwashed!!
I used to live in Chattanooga for 12 yrs and lived near TTU about three blocks,, i wonder if you know mary and dale oxendine??? you are worse than dale
SxyPorkie

 

[Oceanbreeze]

In order for your grandma to begin the process of healing. She needs the Salvation, The saving grace of Jesus Christ. Read the tracts closely at http://www.chick.com then you need to give your heart and life over to Jesus Christ then the healing process begins. You will need to go to a very good Bible believing KJV Holy Bible Holy God inspiring church. God Bless .....

I think this is a hell of a thing to dump on a person who's loved one is dying.

Forgive me, DA. I don't mean to cause you more pain here, but this thing really makes me angry.

JohnnyE, this poor woman is on her deathbed. She has days, maybe hrs, to live.

What DA really needs right now is comfort. Not someone telling her that her Grandmother needs to accept Christ in an attempt at obtaining some far-fetched miracle.

 

[sculleywr]

Liberals don't view Christianity as dangerous. It shouldn't suprise you that most liberals are committed Christians, but naturally you don't understand this. You have a strong ability to ignore the obvious when it is staring you in the face.

And what denomination do they normally hold? Christian Science?

There's nothing illegal about bringing a bible to school unless you go out of your way to bother other people with it. That's where the line is crossed between expressing a belief and harrassment.

Oh, so bringing it out and reading it at lunch is bothering other people? Kid in Louisiana had her Bible impounded on a spring break trip the school had for honors students, when she read it on a time that she was told to have personal reflection. Funny thing is, this trip was supposedly about tolerance.

In Honolulu, a man was declared not guilty. He said "Thank you, Jesus," and was thrown in jail for contempt of court. Getting even more absurd, a preacher in Wisconsin was sued for preaching against homosexuality, IN HIS OWN CHURCH BUILDING! Let me tell you this. If you don't want to hear that homosexuality is wrong, STAY OUT OF THE CHURCH!

A grad student now enrolled at Tennessee Temple University was failed out of a grad school philosophy class and kicked out of the school for writing a paper on the defense of a Biblical worldview, in a class about worldviews! trust me, cause you really don't want me to get Dr David Gibbs, the head of the Christian Law Association, to send me a list of cases that they have been present in, because the reality of the persecution is just that, a reality.

The state is legally founded on secular principles in accordance with the Constitution. The Ten Commandments are not secular principles as they are citations from the Bible, which is understood by most to be a religious text.

Ok, then tell me why the Ten Commandments are set in stone in the US Supreme Court, "Under God" is in our pledge of allegiance, "In God we trust" is on our currency, we still honor our founding fathers by having a paid preacher pray to GOD in every supreme court case, and most patriotic songs have God somewhere in them.

There's nothing illegal about saying "merry Christmas". I don't know any liberals (Christian or not) that have a problem with people saying that. The emphasis on "Happy holidays" came from marketers in the business world who can be conservative or liberal in their politics.

Come down to Jacksonville and Chattanooga, because everywhere I said that, someone either gave me an ugly look or flew completely off the handle. They haven't made it illegal, but Publix is taking some extreme flak for putting it up. Every other store we go to, it says happy holidays. And even then, they are just replacing one Christian term with another. happy HOLY days.

There is no "double standard". Free speech is free speech. There is a line, however, between free speech and encroaching on another right: Freedom of religion. Then again, you don't believe in freedom of religion... I love how you're willing to go "free speech, free speech, FREE SPEECH" but ignore "freedom of religion". You can't have it both ways.

So I am free to have my own religion, but not to express such an important part of my life?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Telling me I am not allowed to exercise my own beliefs, while the Muslims are free to, is breaking MY first amendment rights, by prohibiting the practice of MY religion AND respecting all religions that are not Christian. THAT is unconstitutional.

 

[sculleywr]

When I was a believer and in 6th grade, I brought a kid's bible to school to read during my free time. Nobody took it away because I wasn't bothering anyone else with it.

And that was how long ago?

 

[JohnnyE]

I think this is a hell of a thing to dump on a person who's loved one is dying.

Forgive me, DA. I don't mean to cause you more pain here, but this thing really makes me angry.

JohnnyE, this poor woman is on her deathbed. She has days, maybe hrs, to live.

What DA really needs right now is comfort. Not someone telling her that her Grandmother needs to accept Christ in an attempt at obtaining some far-fetched miracle.

No, it is not a hell of a thing and not too far fetched. If she has just hours to live then she needs Jesus Christ so she can go home to Heaven and her favorite granddaughter clearly is the one to tell her grandmother to give her heart and life over to Jesus Christ and they can pray together in the privacy of the hospice nursing home and she will go up to Heaven and Jesus Christ will be waiting for her and satan can not take her soul because Jesus Christ has taken her sins away and she is made new and whole again before the Throne of The Living God. God is good to have given his son Jesus Christ for the world. I will be praying for the both of you DA and your grandma to come and know the Saving Grace and the Power of Jesus Christ.

 

[sculleywr]

Oh Boy!!! you are defiinitely brainwashed!!
I used to live in Chattanooga for 12 yrs and lived near TTU about three blocks,, i wonder if you know mary and dale oxendine??? you are worse than dale
SxyPorkie

Actually, he is the teacher of the deaf service. Maybe you can give me your name and I will send along your hellos. Secondly, this medical stuff can be easily found in a search on scholar.google.com or PubMed. I passed Biology 2 with flying colors, with a grade on the final that bested the biology major people. I understand how the ear works, and I understand how OME works, having about 18 years of experience with it. You haven't provided an explanation. you care to supply one that fits the description?

 

[sculleywr]

I think this is a hell of a thing to dump on a person who's loved one is dying.

Forgive me, DA. I don't mean to cause you more pain here, but this thing really makes me angry.

JohnnyE, this poor woman is on her deathbed. She has days, maybe hrs, to live.

What DA really needs right now is comfort. Not someone telling her that her Grandmother needs to accept Christ in an attempt at obtaining some far-fetched miracle.

It is possible for the miracle to occur, but I wouldn't put money on it. However, God could be waiting on her to turn to Him so He can call her home. Even in death, a Christian is healed when he/she reaches heaven.

 

[SxyPorkie]

Actually, he is the teacher of the deaf service. Maybe you can give me your name and I will send along your hellos. Secondly, this medical stuff can be easily found in a search on scholar.google.com or PubMed. I passed Biology 2 with flying colors, with a grade on the final that bested the biology major people. I understand how the ear works, and I understand how OME works, having about 18 years of experience with it. You haven't provided an explanation. you care to supply one that fits the description?

Yeah... Dale s wife Mary and I had talked on VP about two months ago,,,, she looked great...Dale was with me when my husband passed away at home... Dale and Mary know my screen name same as here.. i never change my screen name for several yrs..
SxyPorkie

 

[sculleywr]

We still don't know if time was created or not in the Big Bang. That's being worked on. There are other ideas that has the universe be made by colliding branes in higher dimensions. I think that there are people who think time was created along with space in the Big Bang because of space and time being coupled into one manifold, spacetime, by relativity. So maybe the time we know and love may have been created within some sort of metatime, we'll see what we find.

They say that they actually could test predictions made by models with higher dimensions by testing the strength of gravity at sub-millimeter scales. Gravity is much weaker than the other three forces. String theory say that the bosons that carry gravity are closed loops that can slip into other dimensions, unlike other particles that are open strings that are stuck in the four we can see.

Predictions are also made for new particles to appear at higher energies. When the energies of particles increase, their wavelengths get shorter. When they get short enough, they're small enough to poke into other dimensions and allow for the creation of those new kinds of particles. They're preparing to test that with particle accelerators that reach higher energies.



What do you know about stellar astrophysics? I took a course in that and the models of star interiors are based on known physics regarding the behavior of gases and plasma such as convection and radiative transfer of heat and how the particles fuse to release energy. The models are tested by comparing them to stars and supernove we see. It may be an indirect way of finding out about things, but our evidence for subatomic particles is also indirect because we don't directly see them ourselves. Theories about their behavior are tested by the predicted effects that we can see.



We don't need to observe something to know that it had happened. For example we can figure out that a murder had happened based on evidence from the scene. Likewise, the Big Bang theory predicts things like the cosmic microwave background, the ratios of the light nuclei, the large scale structure of the universe and the universe's expansion.

Another example is looking at present day operations of the plate tectonics processes, distribution of fossils and types of rock and minerals, magnetic polarity and knowledge of climate to figure out what ancient Earth looked like throughout geological time without us having to have seen it for ourselves.



Yeah, there are other models I already mentioned.



Negative energy and antimatter are not the same things. When I was talking about negative energy, I meant gravitional potential energy. A physics textbook should be able to show why it is negative, as I've explained.

Guess what? Antimatter exists. Its existence was predicted in 1928 by the famous physicist Paul Dirac when he was working on a combination of special relativity and quantum mechanics and predicted the existence of what turned out to be the positron, the antielectron. It was confirmed experimentally in 1932. The very first detection of the positron is right here. These are cloud chamber tracks of an electron and a positron. They go in opposite directions because they have equal but opposite signed charages. The tracks mirror one other because both particles have the same masses. If the positive one was a proton, it'd have a differently shaped track due to a higher mass.

Now they often make antiprotons and antineutrons as well as the antimatter counterparts of other particles. It is a basic idea of the Standard Model of quantum physics. They've even made antihydrogen atoms.

Guess what? They actually use antimatter in hospitals! Positron emission tomography or PET scanning of the body. Some radioactive isotopes decay by emitting a positron. So they inject one of those isotropes into the person to be scanned. As the radioactive atoms decay, they emit positrons, which annihilate with electrons, releasing two gamma ray photons moving in opposite directions. Those are detected by the scanner and are used to build a 3d image of the insides of the body.



Scientists know this that building on lots of assumptions is not a good idea too. So what they do is seek to have the least number of assumptions to explain what they see. There's also Occam's razor that picks the model with the least number of assumptions that can explain what is seen as the most likely one.

I see the assumptions buildup plenty of times in religions.



Right, because the vacuum turned out not to be empty. Quantum mechanics says that the vacuum cannot be empty, but has a minimum energy, called the zero point energy, because of the fluctuations due to the uncertainty principle for energy and time.



Useless, how? Are you referring to the Casimir effect experiments? Quantum mechanics predicted the effect and the experiments confirmed it. You say that energy always come from somewhere and always goes somewhere. That applies to things within the universe. Why are you trying to apply it to the whole universe when we don't yet know if time existed before the Big Bang? If there was no time before the Big Bang, trying to figure out how the energy got transferred would be useless because there would be no "before" state for the energy. And remember that gravitional potential energy is negative, so the sum of that and the positive energy can be zero. As I said before, it had been shown that it would be zero for closed and flat universes and evidence shows a flat universe for the one we are in.



Since you said that all of them were violated, then I'll list them.



Explain how that is broken.



That is the conservation of energy. Note that it says "closed system." There are ideas like colliding branes that would have this universe be open with energy coming from the collision. There's also the idea that black holes actually make other universes that disconnect from ours. Those ideas are still be researched and work is being done on how to test their predictions, like the ones involving higher dimensions I've talked about.



The Big Bang actually follows the second law because it began in with a low entropy, meaning a highly ordered state as the uniformity of the cosmic microwave background shows. The variations of the background are very tiny. Just one number, the temperature, could characterize the distribution of matter and energy in the early universe because it was very uniform.



How does the Big Bang violate this? The Big Bang began with a very high temperature and it's approaching zero. Processes will end up running down unless something happen to increase the temperature. The book The Five Ages of the Universe gives the story of the universe in the far future and how it could run down.



That's easy to explain from what I learned in labs for basic physics classes. It's the net sum that remains the same. For an example with linear momentum, a gun with a bullet in it has a net momentum of zero. When it's fired, the bullet gets momentum and the gun gets the same amount of momentum in the opposite direction, which means it has an opposite sign from the bullet's momentum. Add those two and it's still zero.

The same thing could be done with angular momentum with things like gears. Two gears start with zero angular momentum and spinning one makes the other one spin in the opposite direction. The angular momentums have opposite signs from each other, so they add up to zero.

Since the angular momentum of things like galaxies are random with no greater chance for any value over others, the number of objects with a particular value should be equal to those of any other value. So they should all add up to a net sum of zero. So the Big Bang did not break the conservation of angular momentum. It's the same idea that the negative energy of gravitional potential energy cancels out the positive energy of the matter and radiation.



Why do you think that the Big Bang had a center? This is a misconception of the Big Bang as an explosion in space. It was actually a explosion that included matter, energy and space itself. We know this because we see the effects of the expansion of space in the redshifts of galaxies.

A common two dimensional analogy is blowing up a balloon with dots on it that represent the galaxies. Someone on one of the dots would see all of the other dots moving away with the ones further away moving faster than the ones closer in. All of the dots could say the same thing about each other.

A common three dimensional analogy is a raisin bread being cooked in an oven with the raisins representing galaxies. As the bread expands, the raisins would see each other moving away with the ones further away moving away faster. All of the rasins could say the same thing about each other.

We see higher redshifts for galaxies and quasars the further away they are. This was confirmed by using other distance measuring methods. In that sort of expansion, no one point can claim to be the center of the universe. Imagine a really huge balloon surface or a huge bread with the dots or raisins being the galaxies.

The expansion does not need a force in the usual sense because it's an expansion of space itself, not the kind with matter moving through space. The galaxies themselves could have their own motions through space relative to other members of their clusters, but they're still influenced by the expansion of space. This expansion had been known about since 1929 when evidence for it was found by Hubble.

As I talked about before, there is evidence of a force accelerating the expansion of the universe, known as dark energy, which is not your everyday force.

Earlier, you said that the idea of multiverses was impossible. There are actually four levels of multiverses that had been conceptized. The first two levels are predicted by inflation models that has space expand very fast very soon after the Big Bang. Nothing can move space faster than light, but there's no restriction like that on space, so it can carry stuff beyond the cosmic horizon.

Level I: The Hubble volume is the volume of space we can see because light have had time since the Big Bang to reach us. The stuff beyond that volume is not visible to us yet and cannot affect us yet. For each point in space, there is a Hubble volume around it. The Hubble volumes beyond our own are Level I parallel universes. This depends on space continuing out to infinity, which is the case for a flat universe. It's also simpiler to specifiy an infinite flat universe than a finite closed universe because the closed universe would also have a number specifying its overall curve. Our universe being flat is also supported by the microwave background.

Level II: Chaotic inflation, also known as the bubble model, has different regions with different vacuum energy densities leading to different values of constants, dimensionity and amounts of particles. Those different regions are Level II parallel universes.

Level III: This is from the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics. It is actually simpler than the Copenhagen interpretation because those like the Copenhagen interpretation has wavefunctions collapsing when observating it. Replacing wavefunction collapse with something known as quantum decoherence resolves many quantum paradoxes such as the wave-particle duality.

The Copenhagen interpretation assumes that the wavefunction collapse is something that just happens. Quantum decoherence provides an explanation instead of just assuming something happens. It is the interaction of the quantum system with the environoment that makes it look like its wavefunction is collapsing.

This had been measured in 1996 by sending pairs of atoms, each in a superposition of two states into a cavitiy full of microwaves. Both states change the phase of the microwaves by different amounts, putting the microwaves into a superposition too. The microwaves interacted with the environoment around the cavitity, making the system decoherence to a definite state. This was measured by varying the energy levels of the atoms and the time between sending in members of the pairs of atoms.

The many-worlds interpretation also makes quantum cosmology make more sense because now there is no need to have an observator outside the universe. It also make quantum mechanics deterministic.

Regarding wave-particle duality, a well known experiment is sending things like photons or electrons through double slits and seeing the interference patterns, even if the photons or electrons were sent one at a time, as if each object interferenced with itself. In the many-worlds interpretation, one does not have to think of each object as going through both slits at the same time and interferencing with itself. The universe splits into two parallel universes. In one, the object goes through one slit. In the other one, it goes through the other one. They would interference with each other. Having the universe split into parallel universes so the two versions of the objects would interference with each other is deterministic, rather than having the object's probablity wavefunction going through both slits and interferencing with itself. All of the possible ways for it to happen exist in an universe. Those universes are Level III parallel universes.

Level VI: Now there is work on finding the theory of everything, the theory that describes all of the basic particles and interactions of the universe. There are many possible theories, but only one of them fits our universe. Why the one for this universe and not another one? Level VI universes are universes described by different theories. For each possible theory, there exists a Level VI universe in what is known as the Ultimate Ensemble. This is actually simpler than having only an universe with only one theory because the theory of the universe could be considered a parameter. Having only one universe would mean having parameters for what theory to use and what constants the theory would need. Those are free parameters because they are not predicted. Having all of the Level VI universes existing would make those not be free parameters because they all exist anyway.

There are more than one string theories and they've been found to be versions of a M-theory. In the Ultimate Ensemble, all of those versions exist as universes, along with anything that isn't the M-theory. The Ultimate Ensemble is simpler because it has all possiblities rather than being restricted to only one universe with one theory.

The fourth level contains all possiblities, so there there are no fifth or higher levels.

Since you mentioned Berkely University, do you go there?

No, I don't go to Berkely, I cite their website for my knowledge of evolution. Thus far, Christian sources have refuted everything they post.

I challenge you to tell me what they know by valid, recorded experiments. Not by guessing, not by suppositions, and not by unsupported theories. According to Nova (a science show that has episodes used at Berkeley and other colleges, including mine, Tennessee Temple University), the String Theory has NO support. the reader's digest stated, "As for the extra dimensions, they are wherever you lost your car keys." The originator of the String Theory said, "This theory isn't even out of the mathematical phase."

As for the multiverse theory, you need four things: a source of energy, a mechanism to convert that energy into usable kinetic energy, a machine to create those universes, and finally a machine to randomize the physical laws of each universe. And, to top it all, these things have to come together in a random way. This belief requires more faith than even I have. So tell me, what randomizes the physical laws in the bubble model, my favorite out of the groups.

Tbhis is the first time I haven't heard that an extremely dense ball of matter (very dense black hole?) exploded. That kind of big bang would have a center. the explosion I guess you are talking of would require the fabled collision of matter and its antimatter clone.

This would break the law of angular momentum since the explosion without a center would not be circular, but a random shape. You learn in like chapter three of high school physics that angular momentum can only be conserved if the directions and forces are perfect circles. Even an irregular galaxy would have a spin of some sort.

Entropy is not followed, because after it got highly irregular, it got more ordered. Irregular clouds of gas form planets and galaxies, somehow forming precisely spinning solar systems.

Now, I have a question, what in the hell is a quasar?

 

[Oceanbreeze]

No, it is not a hell of a thing and not too far fetched. If she has just hours to live then she needs Jesus Christ so she can go home to Heaven and her favorite granddaughter clearly is the one to tell her grandmother to give her heart and life over to Jesus Christ and they can pray together in the privacy of the hospice nursing home and she will go up to Heaven and Jesus Christ will be waiting for her and satan can not take her soul because Jesus Christ has taken her sins away and she is made new and whole again before the Throne of The Living God. God is good to have given his son Jesus Christ for the world. I will be praying for the both of you DA and your grandma to come and know the Saving Grace and the Power of Jesus Christ.

That is per YOUR belief. She may have another belief system.

 

[darkangel8603]

In order for your grandma to begin the process of healing. She needs the Salvation, The saving grace of Jesus Christ. Read the tracts closely at http://www.chick.com then you need to give your heart and life over to Jesus Christ then the healing process begins. You will need to go to a very good Bible believing KJV Holy Bible Holy God inspiring church. God Bless .....

whoa whoa whoa... one thing i forgot to mention... SHE IS A STRONG CATHOLIC!! VERY RELGIOUS!!!! care to explain that?!? My grandmother went to church every sunday for her whole life. She prayed EVERYDAY, perhap TWICE or more!, She has jesus and god in her life!!!!.. SO my point is that she had already turned to god, and yet she is still dying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! care to fucking explain that?!?!?

 

[Teresh]

And what denomination do they normally hold? Christian Science?

No. Lutheran, Presbyterian, Episocopalian, Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, United Church of Christ... Every denomination has its fair share of liberals though as you're a conservative you'd like to pretend that that's not the case. That doesn't make your pretending legitimate, it just means you lie to yourself when the fact of the matter isn't what you want it to be.

Oh, so bringing it out and reading it at lunch is bothering other people?

No.

In Honolulu, a man was declared not guilty. He said "Thank you, Jesus," and was thrown in jail for contempt of court.

The judge had instructed the man's lawyer to tell him not to react to the ruling. He could have said anything and the judge's reaction would have been the same. You're selectively ignoring the details that cripple your argument.

you really don't want me to get Dr David Gibbs, the head of the Christian Law Association, to send me a list of cases that they have been present in, because the reality of the persecution is just that, a reality.

Funny that upholding American values and the Constitution is "persecution". You are opposed to American values. That's fine. If you're opposed to America, get out of my country. Thank you.

Ok, then tell me why the Ten Commandments are set in stone in the US Supreme Court,

Because someone put them there?

"Under God" is in our pledge of allegiance,

Because Congress inserted it in the 50s as part of the Red Scare anti-communist purge of McCarthy. It was not part of the original Pledge.

"In God we trust" is on our currency,

Similarly to the changes to the pledge, they also changed the National Motto to something containing God. The original motto for the US is "E Pluribus Unum" ("From Many, One"). The original motto for the US contained no mention of God.

we still honor our founding fathers by having a paid preacher pray to GOD in every supreme court case, and most patriotic songs have God somewhere in them.

Our national anthem doesn't...

Come down to Jacksonville and Chattanooga, because everywhere I said that, someone either gave me an ugly look or flew completely off the handle. They haven't made it illegal, but Publix is taking some extreme flak for putting it up. Every other store we go to, it says happy holidays.

Like I said, it's a business thing. It's not liberals, it's marketers, who can be of any political leaning. If you understood marketing, you would understand why they make "happy holidays" instead of "merry christmas".

So I am free to have my own religion, but not to express such an important part of my life?

If your religion includes hassling and harrassing other people to convert to your religion, then no, you're not.

Otherwise, go right ahead.

Telling me I am not allowed to exercise my own beliefs, while the Muslims are free to, is breaking MY first amendment rights, by prohibiting the practice of MY religion AND respecting all religions that are not Christian. THAT is unconstitutional.

Funny, but you don't think Muslims, Jews and other non-Christians should be allowed to practice their beliefs...

 

[christlovedeaf]

ok u said that god can heal diseases or disorder that is caused by sin, why didn't he answer my prayers or heal my grandmother who is sick with lung cancer and is dying in a hospice. Why didn't he heal my grandmother to get better? Why didn't he heal me to relieve me of my bipolar that is supposely caused by some sin ( note the sarcastism) When you can answer those questions, and not some stupid comments that you made up or whatever shit cuz i dont fucking want ot hear that.. When you can answer this, then I will believe that my bipolar is a sin!, but for now it not gonna happen.

You didn't get all I'm saying. Look all the point I'm saying. all u described about why u still suffered and also grandmother. Did you see I mentioned about comforts? Did you see I list the names in OT and NT those who have suffered depressions? Did you see I said that won't happen split sec? Healing is a process. You may have affliction in your body and systems, but inner being be a different story. You may get the wrong idea about the word sin. Our body is only temp, its also called flesh. But, as for those who are in Christ suffer of all kinds, did you know that, blessings will come out from that? Did you know Paul suffered body ailments? Even he has bad eyes? But he's persevere through his suffering. So can we? Remember, God is all comfort, and we should give one another comforts. Two idfferent person I mentioned is them to know there are healings, there aree healings in different forms. All of us have afflictions in different forms. So comfort one another.

 

[JohnnyE]

whoa whoa whoa... one thing i forgot to mention... SHE IS A STRONG CATHOLIC!! VERY RELGIOUS!!!! care to explain that?!? My grandmother went to church every sunday for her whole life. She prayed EVERYDAY, perhap TWICE or more!, She has jesus and god in her life!!!!.. SO my point is that she had already turned to god, and yet she is still dying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! care to fucking explain that?!?!?

This one will explain clear what is going on.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0071/0071_01.asp

 

[SxyPorkie]

This one will explain clear what is going on.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0071/0071_01.asp

You have no right to insult darkangel.... she is in grief right now... Please respect her.... You are not True Christian.... you bash some people today....
SxyPorkie