Feeling depressed?

[SxyPorkie]

Oh, yeah it was Satan who caused that sin, because of disobedience. Satan don't have any healthy mind like Jesus Christ's. Jesus Christ's mind is very supreme healthy, the very single-minded. No wonder Jesus created a very healthy earth that provided healthy oxygen, clean air, and all. I can imagine that all the fruits were that big than today's. No wonder it explained that people in Jesus Christ's ancient times were very strong, healthy and lived over 100 years of age than today's.

Ahhh... depressions doe not cause by sin..... it is the body chemical imbalance,,, christianity has nothing to do with it,,,Depressions and Christianity are seperated issues.... You need to study more on Psychology...

SxyPorkie

 

[sculleywr]

This sounds like it's all your opinion, and I'm not going to go any further with you on it. Suffice it to say, though, I've not changed my mind about how I feel.

MY opinion??? Well, read up.

From Genesis 3

17And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

18Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

19In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

Note the emboldened part. The earth is cursed. The cursed earth is the reason for disease.

 

[sculleywr]

Ahhh... depressions doe not cause by sin..... it is the body chemical imbalance,,, christianity has nothing to do with it,,,Depressions and Christianity are seperated issues.... You need to study more on Psychology...

SxyPorkie

Disease roots in the original sin. Christianity does NOT cure depression. My idea of one of the best ways to defeat it is pharmocotherapy and CBT combined.

 

[Maria]

Ahhh... depressions doe not cause by sin..... it is the body chemical imbalance,,, christianity has nothing to do with it,,,Depressions and Christianity are seperated issues.... You need to study more on Psychology...

SxyPorkie

I need to study more on psychology ? Nah. I don't believe in psychology. Sorry, gal !

My beliefs : Before Adam and Eve ate that fruit, they both don't know nothin' about sin. They don't taste/experience ashame, or embarrassment or any emotions that were " down " to them. After they took their bites, all of sudden their eyes see " somethin' went wrong " -- they were ashamed of their naked bodies from each other. They experienced " ashamed " and " afraid " by hidin' from God. And, of course they both experienced " down " emotions such as depression, anger, jealousy, and so forth. Before bitin' a fruit, they never experienced depression nor anger or jealousy or anythin' like that. They both were soo happy and walked with God everyday. They even made their own friends with " tame " animals. Everythin' were soo innocent before they fall from the grace of God.

Satan himself was very ego, envy and curse against God. He wanted God's throne in Heaven by sayin' " I will " 5 times before God kicked him out of heaven along with other 1/3 angels who followed him ( Satan ). Soo, where did that ego, envy and curse came from ? It wasn't from God Himself since God is very lovin', carin', kindness, patience and slowly anger. God don't allow ANY sin in heaven. Heaven is full of JOY, PRAISE, CLEAN, HEALTHY, and all. There's no sin up there.

Sin itself hurt people and Satan likes to hurt people, too. Tsk tsk at him, but Jesus always wins at the end. That will make Satan, the devil MAD even more. Heh heh

 

[guido]

I need to study more on psychology ? Nah. I don't believe in psychology. Sorry, gal !

Don't believe in Psychology, eh? I remember there being someone else who didn't believe in Psychology, and he turned out pretty swell...

 

[LuciaDisturbed]

omfg

*headdesk*

 

[Oceanbreeze]

omfg

*headdesk*

 

[sculleywr]

I need to study more on psychology ? Nah. I don't believe in psychology. Sorry, gal !

Maybe you should check the subject out. Psychology, as an actual practice, is a mix of biology and a certain understanding of how the mind works, or human nature.

 

[sculleywr]

omfg

*headdesk*

Hahaha

 

[Maria]

Maybe you should check the subject out. Psychology, as an actual practice, is a mix of biology and a certain understanding of how the mind works, or human nature.

I know. But, I don't believe in " worldly " psychologist, if their " psychology " thing is different. Satan have serious psychological problem... worse than Jesus Christ Himself.

Well, never mind if, you can't read the picture in my mind of what I am tryin' to explain about the difference in between Jesus and Satan via Christian psychologist and worldly psychologist.

I am still analyzin' some more in deep.........

 

[sculleywr]

I know. But, I don't believe in " worldly " psychologist, if their " psychology " thing is different. Satan have serious psychological problem... worse than Jesus Christ Himself.

Well, never mind if, you can't read the picture in my mind of what I am tryin' to explain about the difference in between Jesus and Satan via Christian psychologist and worldly psychologist.

I am still analyzin' some more in deep.........

There is only one difference between a Christian psychologist and a secular psychologist. One is saved, the other isn't.

 

[guido]

There is only one difference between a Christian psychologist and a secular psychologist. One is saved, the other isn't.

That sounds like a great punchline to a joke.

 

[deafdyke]

And one is the right person to go to, if you want to be ALL about Christianity.....After all, secular people and things are all of the devil!

 

[guido]

And one is the right person to go to, if you want to be ALL about Christianity.....After all, secular people and things are all of the devil!

Good! More room in hell for us!

 

[Maria]

SculleyWr --

Ok, I just open my bible here and I have " concordance " in the back of my bible. It explains about " physical and spiritual causes ". Ok, let me type everythin' that's said here.

Illnesses in the Bible had either physical ( e.g., Luke 4:38; John 9:1-3 ) or spiritual causes, the later due either to sin (e.g., 2 Kings 5:26-27; Ps. 32:3-4 ) or an evil spirit ( e.g., 1 Sam. 16:14; Matt. 17:14-18; Mark 5:2-4; John 10:20 ). Some interpreters hold that many of the sicknesses attributed to evil spirits would be classified today as mental illness ( e.g., King Saul and Nebuchadnezzar; compare John 10:20 ).
The Bible recognizes the reality of insanity, describin' David feignin' madness before King Achish of Gath ( 1 Sam. 21:13-15 ). The prophets were sometimes accused of madness because of the strangeness of their prophetic activity ( 2 Kings 9:11; Jer. 29:26; Jos. 9:7 ).
Whether present in believers or unbelievers, troubled minds are a result of the Fall. Circumstances often produce depression ( Neh. 1:2; Prov. 15:13; 18:14 ) or anxiety ( Deut. 28:65-67; Luke 10:41 ) and can lead to minds of unbelievers are described by Paul as " corrupted " ( Titus 1:15 ), and in need of renewal through the savin' work of Christ ( Eph. 4:23; 2 Cor. 5:17; compare Rom. 12:2 ). Those who trust in God in the face of trouble are able to find inner peace ( Ps. 4:8; Isa. 26:3; Phil. 4:7; 1 Pet. 5:7 ).

Enjoy readin' in your own bible with all these verses and hopefully, it helps. God's Word is better than mine.

 

[RedFox]

There is plenty enough evidence that evolution is wrong, but this is not the thread for an evolution debate. Illnesses are a result of a background that would never have been there if there were no sin in the garden.

I've read the creationist claims and found them to be superficial. When one goes to a deeper investigation, it is found that real science debunks creationist science. I am thinking of making some kind of resource to debunk creationism and other such things that is easy to understand for deaf people by using lots of pictures and explaining the meanings of words.

 

[sculleywr]

I've read the creationist claims and found them to be superficial. When one goes to a deeper investigation, it is found that real science debunks creationist science. I am thinking of making some kind of resource to debunk creationism and other such things that is easy to understand for deaf people by using lots of pictures and explaining the meanings of words.

understand that the beginning according to "real" science is, according to all laws of thermodynamics, is impossible. No matter how many ways you play with the big bang theory, it always comes back to bringing something from nothing. that means causing matter to come from nothing. Big Bang Cosmologists like to drop to the "oscillating universe theory," where they theorize that the universe oscilates in size. The problem is, if that is true, then one crest will be higher than the one before it, and that one bigger than the one before, and so on. Soon enough, extrapolation brings us to a point where there was nothing. Now, debunk that, since you claim that our claims are superficial. An impossibility of a natural explanation requires a supernatural explanation.

 

[sculleywr]

SculleyWr --

Ok, I just open my bible here and I have " concordance " in the back of my bible. It explains about " physical and spiritual causes ". Ok, let me type everythin' that's said here.

Illnesses in the Bible had either physical ( e.g., Luke 4:38; John 9:1-3 ) or spiritual causes, the later due either to sin (e.g., 2 Kings 5:26-27; Ps. 32:3-4 ) or an evil spirit ( e.g., 1 Sam. 16:14; Matt. 17:14-18; Mark 5:2-4; John 10:20 ). Some interpreters hold that many of the sicknesses attributed to evil spirits would be classified today as mental illness ( e.g., King Saul and Nebuchadnezzar; compare John 10:20 ).
The Bible recognizes the reality of insanity, describin' David feignin' madness before King Achish of Gath ( 1 Sam. 21:13-15 ). The prophets were sometimes accused of madness because of the strangeness of their prophetic activity ( 2 Kings 9:11; Jer. 29:26; Jos. 9:7 ).
Whether present in believers or unbelievers, troubled minds are a result of the Fall. Circumstances often produce depression ( Neh. 1:2; Prov. 15:13; 18:14 ) or anxiety ( Deut. 28:65-67; Luke 10:41 ) and can lead to minds of unbelievers are described by Paul as " corrupted " ( Titus 1:15 ), and in need of renewal through the savin' work of Christ ( Eph. 4:23; 2 Cor. 5:17; compare Rom. 12:2 ). Those who trust in God in the face of trouble are able to find inner peace ( Ps. 4:8; Isa. 26:3; Phil. 4:7; 1 Pet. 5:7 ).

Enjoy readin' in your own bible with all these verses and hopefully, it helps. God's Word is better than mine.

Would you like to explain what I did NOT agree with in that? Because that doesn't refute any part of my beliefs.

 

[Your Mom]

Funny that you all mention this, I am narcoleptic and I have a cousin who told me that I just need to accept jesus christ and come and get healed at church, I went, they claimed to have healed me and even insisted that I turn over my medications because I had no need for them since I had been healed. As it turns out, guess what?! I wasnt healed and I had a miserable next few weeks, falling asleep in class, work, and while driving.

There is a huge difference in being sad, and being depressed. While I am sure that whatever comfort some people find it religion is reasurring and allows them to take thier grief or feelings and give them up to a higer being/power. I dont believe that its anything more than the power of the mind. Example: a lot of peoples pain and feelings are merely things the mind is making up, if you can find a way to tell the mind that it is fine the problem sorts its self out.

I am a psych major and its the same when someone is saying that they are having horrible headaches, but everything seems to be fine, so you give them a salt tablet and tell them its a high dosage pain killer. The pain magically disappears, because it was never there to begin with, you just need to convince the mind that you are better.

And for some people, religion is their medicine, makes them feel like their mind is at peace, therefore relieving pain.

 

[SxyPorkie]

Funny that you all mention this, I am narcoleptic and I have a cousin who told me that I just need to accept jesus christ and come and get healed at church, I went, they claimed to have healed me and even insisted that I turn over my medications because I had no need for them since I had been healed. As it turns out, guess what?! I wasnt healed and I had a miserable next few weeks, falling asleep in class, work, and while driving.

There is a huge difference in being sad, and being depressed. While I am sure that whatever comfort some people find it religion is reasurring and allows them to take thier grief or feelings and give them up to a higer being/power. I dont believe that its anything more than the power of the mind. Example: a lot of peoples pain and feelings are merely things the mind is making up, if you can find a way to tell the mind that it is fine the problem sorts its self out.

I am a psych major and its the same when someone is saying that they are having horrible headaches, but everything seems to be fine, so you give them a salt tablet and tell them its a high dosage pain killer. The pain magically disappears, because it was never there to begin with, you just need to convince the mind that you are better.

And for some people, religion is their medicine, makes them feel like their mind is at peace, therefore relieving pain.

You are right.... seems that most of christians are being brainwashed.. depressed is caused by chemical imbalance... and other reasons depends how they were raised up from... usually from abused families...

Christians will not be cured from depressions unless they get a help or counselors,,,
Depressions sometimes are not cured but can be controlled by some kinds of help or medicines...

Thanks!!
SxyPorkie