Feds probing arrests of disruptive student

This is a great vid to teach fear....(respect) for authority..

After all if the final arguement is "obey or i will hurt you"
Then indeed as the old world says...the kings last arguement is also his weakest....

Curious...

Is the ability to reason and to de escalate situtions no longer part of police training?

This cop should be ashamed of himself
 
I agree there was a less violent way to go about teaching her to respect her teacher and the other students in the classroom being as though she was rudely interrupting their learning. I did think that cops were trained to talk someone down before you they arrested/shot someone..But it seems more and more in the news that cops are acting first and thinking about their actions later. But in their defense I think that the public has become harder and harder to manage. Think about it we have students that bring guns to school and shot lots of good/innocent people. They are only human and maybe over compensating for what awful events have happened before. It is a police officers job to assess the situation and to make a decision on what the best solution to the problem is, and while this is their job they are still human.
 
I agree there was a less violent way to go about teaching her to respect her teacher and the other students in the classroom being as though she was rudely interrupting their learning. I did think that cops were trained to talk someone down before you they arrested/shot someone..But it seems more and more in the news that cops are acting first and thinking about their actions later. But in their defense I think that the public has become harder and harder to manage. Think about it we have students that bring guns to school and shot lots of good/innocent people. They are only human and maybe over compensating for what awful events have happened before. It is a police officers job to assess the situation and to make a decision on what the best solution to the problem is, and while this is their job they are still human.

They are only human doesnt cut it.
After all,
Arent we all?

Not everyone is cut out to be a cop...if your going to be acting like this faced with the threat this girl posed...

Your in the wrong line of work.
 
Yes that is true, she was probably not trying to kill anyone and should have been handled differently. Idk how police are trained now but something needs to change.

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http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/...who-texted-in-class-prompts-civil-rights-case



"Kids are not criminals, by the way. When they won't get up, when they won't put up the phone, they're silly, disobedient kids - not criminals," said John Whitehead, founder of the Rutherford Institute, a nonprofit civil liberties and human rights organization.

Police should guard doors to "stop the crazies from getting in these schools," Whitehead said, but "when you have police in the schools, you're going to run into this - having police do what teachers and parents should do."

This is what the whole thing boil down to parents and teachers needs to do their jobs better and it should start with the parents first . The needs to stop trying to be their kids best friends and not worry if their kids say " I hate you!"
 
is it educatism to disrupt the learning experiences of the other kids? Yes. The girl will scream victimology (Al Sharpton's favorite ideology).
 
is it educatism to disrupt the learning experiences of the other kids? Yes. The girl will scream victimology (Al Sharpton's favorite ideology).

It's doesn't have to be one way or the other. The girl and the cop can both be in the wrong. Yes, the girl needed to be removed. No she didn't need to be thrown over backwards and tossed across the room.

I've seen some people saying she jumped over backwards but watching the second video you can see the cops hand under her leg and he picks her up. There is no way she tossed herself halfway across the room after.
 
I know there is a lot of argument that she got what she deserved and maybe she did but it's not the cop place to punish her. That's for the school and the parents or perhaps a judge.
 
In light of some awful things from columbine onwards I not 100pc sure why such uproar about this.i would thought lessons learned and strick security in schools.I can't remember was the awful massacres in the other school were they school kids or outsiders
this cop would had training in light things that happened and they not messing about plus at no point did he hit her.
Dreadful things to see but it happened ,personally from things that happened recently I would be relieved to know security is now taken seriously.
That teacher there to teach not be intimidated by pain in butt school kid.
 
The girl was not a "security risk". You don't have to hit someone to hurt them. The only thing this will accomplish is making the girl MORE of an outsider. She should have been removed, disciplined and made to go to counseling since she has self control issues.
 
Read post #25 The girl has no parents ! Her mother is dead and there is nothing about her dad . She lives with strangers , I am not about to judge this girl b/c I have no idea who I would act if I had this happen to me as a16 yo kid ! I know it was very hard on my sister who was only 16 yo when our dad dies we still had our mother , the girl in this story has no parents only foster parents . If the girl has been acting out before her mom dies the school should seen if she was ready to be in class room again.
No one looking out for this girl , she was grieving and there are 5 stages people go through she should never had been back in school yet.
The adults in her life did a miserable job in her time of needs and support . I wonder if the girl got any help like this before going back to school.

http://www.allpsychologycareers.com/topics/loss-of-a-parent.html







"Children’s grief over loss of a parent

Psychological research has shown that a person’s age affects his or her ability to cope with the death of a parent. According to clinical psychologist Maxine Harris, PhD, in her book “The Lifelong Impact of the Early Death of a Mother or Father,” the loss of a parent before adulthood has a profound effect on the rest of that person’s life. The loss affects adult personality development, a sense of security, and relationships with the surviving parent and significant others.

Loss of a parent at an early age has been shown to lead to long-term psychological damage in children, especially when the parent lost is the mother. To prevent this, psychologists suggest grief therapy for the child (see Grief Therapy), allowing the child to express his or her feelings and providing feedback and activities to pursue when grief resurfaces.

According to Psychologist J.W. Worden, and the Harvard Child Bereavement Study (HCBS), children have four “tasks” of mourning they must accomplish in order to process the death of a parent:
◦They must accept the reality of the parent’s death.
◦They must experience the grieving and emotional pain of the loss.
◦They must adjust to the world in which the deceased is no longer there.
◦They must find ways to memorialize the deceased, and relocate the lost parent within his or her life in a different way.

In a 1999 study in the Journal of Youth and Adolescence entitled “Children's Psychological Distress Following the Death of a Parent,” girls were more likely to experience depressive symptoms after the loss of a parent than boys. Additionally, younger children were more at risk for depressive symptoms than older children.

Children need age-appropriate support—that is, counseling and support that correlates to the way a person processes death at a certain age—to deal with the effects of the loss of a parent and the ensuing grief. Since people understand death differently at different stages of development, the emotional support they receive needs to reflect the child’s ability to process the information. Children almost always exhibit some type of regression behavior when a parent dies. It is important to recognize these behaviors as part of grieving and not to punish the child for them. Children might resort to a behavior they had left behind, such as thumb sucking, bed wetting, or uncontrolled crying.

Behavioral grief symptoms in children include:
◦Withdrawal
◦Searching for the deceased
◦Avoiding places and people who remind them of the deceased
◦Changes in eating habits
◦Crying

Adolescent grief is an area of continuing interest and research. Teenagers experience such a varying and dynamic range of emotions, sometimes responding to psychological tests as adults, sometimes through avoidance or masking of emotions, and sometimes they respond as children. However, we do know that adolescents are susceptible to short and long-term emotional damage from the loss of a parent. Teenagers may act out through risk-taking behavior, and disinterest in school and activities is common following the loss of a parent.

In addition to emotional reactions, children of all ages will suffer from physical symptoms of grief. Physical symptoms experienced by both children and adolescents include weakness, low energy, dry mouth, and shortness of breath.

In order to successfully work through the grief of a parent’s death, individuals need to be open to dealing with their emotions completely, to express them honestly, and discuss them with someone who can provide support. Only through this process will a person be able to resolve his or her grief.

The study and treatment of mental health issues is a growing field in the United States. People interested in the study of human behavior and in helping others will find a career in mental health counseling extremely rewarding. If you are interested in assessing and assisting people dealing with grief, you should consider a career as mental health counselor. Education and experience in psychology can lead to careers in counseling and therapy, or other psychology related fields. Request information from schools offering degree programs in psychology or counseling to learn more."
 
The girl was not a "security risk". You don't have to hit someone to hurt them. The only thing this will accomplish is making the girl MORE of an outsider. She should have been removed, disciplined and made to go to counseling since she has self control issues.
I think that was the goal, to remove the girl but she didn't want to go.

It might have been better for the teacher to take the other students out, and leave the officer and the assistant principal to deal with the girl privately.
 
I should say removed without unnecessary aggression. I wonder what the protocol is? If there isn't one maybe there should be.
 
I think that was the goal, to remove the girl but she didn't want to go.

It might have been better for the teacher to take the other students out, and leave the officer and the assistant principal to deal with the girl privately.

That would had taken common sense and there seem to be a shortage of it today.
 
The cop never hit her he followed protocol it looks awful but he was removing someone who did not want to move.Not how I handle it but it what they taught to do.This girls problems school should known about worked on she fallen through cracks some point.very sad what happened but other kids also have dead parents and in social care but do not disrupt other children's education .this girl should been in correct setting for her social needs before got to this stage....all kids should not be allowed phones in class that be a help
 
Pee Dee police to consider body cameras for school resource officers

DARLINGTON, SC (WBTW) – The recent incident in Columbia where a school resource officer was fired after throwing a student from her desk has brought a great deal of controversy to many areas about the role of officers in schools and how incidents are handled.

Now, many parents are asking that officers in the schools be required to wear body cameras.

Anthony Hall says he has two granddaughters in school, and he feels body cameras would provide accountability and transparency for all parties involved.

“Police, in whatever capacity they are, ought to have a body camera. I think that one, it tells the whole story. It tells both sides of the story. People will react differently if they know they are being filmed. An officer may react differently if they know whatever their actions are can be caught on camera also,” said Hall.
Chief Danny Watson with the Darlington Police Department says body cameras are the only way to protect the whole truth.

“It doesn’t change. It cannot be modified. So, what happened is what happened,” said Watson.

Watson says the Darlington Police Department has six different school resource officers, and when they walk inside their schools, they’re required to wear their body cameras.

That’s not the case for other officers around the Pee Dee. News 13 reached out to the Marion, Dillon, Florence, and Marlboro police departments to see if their school resource officers were required to wear body cameras, and all four departments said no, but in light of recent events, said it would be something to consider.

But what advantage would the body camera have over the student-shot cell phone video?

“Say you’re talking to me, what you see through your eyes is what that camera is going to see. You’re going to hear what that officer heard, you’re going to see what that officer saw from that officer’s perspective, not from somebody who’s standing at this angle or that angle,” said Watson.

In the case in Columbia, it may have allowed us to see what happened in the classroom from start to finish.

Chief Watson says officers are trained to first ask, then tell, and finally force. He says body cameras would allow all three of those steps to be caught on camera and used as evidence if needed.

http://wbtw.com/2015/11/03/pee-dee-police-to-consider-body-cameras-for-school-resource-officers/
 
Students lead ‘walk-out’ in support of fired SC resource officer

COLUMBIA, SC – Nearly 100 students led a peaceful walk-out Friday morning in support of fired Spring Valley High School resource officer Ben Fields, according to a State newspaper report.

Fields was fired this week after a viral video showed him dragging a 16-year-old student from her desk after she would not comply with his instructions to leave the class.

Spring Valley Principal Jeff Temoney told the State the protest was an “orderly student-led activity.”

WLTX reports the principal sent a letter to parents that said he spoke to the students and let them know that they understood the students need to express themselves.

The students were back in class 10 minutes later.

Attorney Scott Hayes said in a statement released to local media Wednesday that Senior Deputy Ben Fields’ actions were carried out professionally and that he was performing his job duties legally.

Sheriff Leon Lott says Fields was fired for violating department training and procedures.

The incident happened Monday at Spring Valley High School in Columbia. The student was in a math class and was using her phone, which is against the rules during class. The teacher told her to leave the class and she refused. The teacher then called an administrator to the classroom, who also told the student she needed to leave the classroom. She refused again, so they called the school resource officer.

— Cassibry (@JCass_12) October 30, 2015
In video shot by other students in the class, SRO Ben Fields asked the student to get up and she refused again. He then grabbed her with one arm and put his other arm around her neck. The girl then tried to punch Fields in the head. Fields tried to pull her out of the desk, but the desk fell backwards with the student still in it. He then grabbed her by the leg, pulled her out of the desk and threw her across the floor to the front of the room, where he then pulled her hands behind her to handcuff her.

Sheriff Lott said Wednesday that he had his training unit review what happened.

“Their recommendation to me was that Deputy Fields did not follow proper training, did not follow proper procedure when he threw the student across the room. From the very beginning, that’s what’s caused me to be upset, when I first saw that video, and continues to upset me when I see that video, is the fact that he picked the student up and he threw the student across the room. That is not a proper technique and should not be used in law enforcement. And based on that, that was a violation of our policy,” Sheriff Lott stated.

He said he looked only at whether to fire Deputy Fields, not whether he should face any criminal charges. He says those would have to come from the FBI and the U.S. Attorney’s Office, which are investigating.

http://wbtw.com/2015/10/30/students-lead-walk-out-in-support-of-fired-sc-resource-officer/
 
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