Feds probing arrests of disruptive student

He didn't throw her in the air, he got her arm and leg and pulled her off the desk and dragged her to the front of classroom to be handcuffed.

ricas27 said:
'school students are not adult. Image they are kids or baby They not going listen and obey. U toss them in the air? Or u let Jared Fogle tossed the girl in the air?
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Calvin said:
There was an article that the girl did hit the cop as he try to get her up. The girl was resistant and refusing to get up. The teacher asked her repeatedly to stop using her phone, she refused, the cop asked her to come with him, she refused.

She did break a school rule, and refused to leave the classroom when told to. Her refusal caused more disturbance in the classroom, she has to take responsible for her action. That's why resource officer was there to remove her from the classroom in handcuffs because of her refusal to obey both teacher and cop.
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So u care cop going toss ur kid when he not doing his job right? I thought so.
 
ricas27 said:
So u care cop going toss ur kid when he not doing his job right? I thought so.
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If I have kid, I will be extremely pissed off if SRO use excessive force on my kid.

but... I will be rich, thanks to expensive lawsuit.
 
Hence post #12.

Foxrac said:
If I have kid, I will be extremely pissed off if SRO use excessive force on my kid.

but... I will be rich, thanks to expensive lawsuit.
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Calvin said:
Hence post #12.
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That's not guaranteed, good parenting isn't always preventing kids from trouble at school.

My parents are STRICT but my sister got in serious trouble so many times and she got in fight with school principal. She went to bootcamp and juvenile but she ended up transfer to mental ward at hospital.

After many pattern of troubles, my parents decided to pull her out of school - she was next to expulsion and put her in homeschooling program and tell her that she is on own.

Turned out - she passed the GED and went to college but she withdrew after crazy partying so recently, she found a job in medical career and make $10 per hour.
 
Foxrac said:
That's not guaranteed, good parenting isn't always preventing kids from trouble at school.

My parents are STRICT but my sister got in serious trouble so many times and she got in fight with school principal. She went to bootcamp and juvenile but she ended up transfer to mental ward at hospital.

After many pattern of troubles, my parents decided to pull her out of school - she was next to expulsion and put her in homeschooling program and tell her that she is on own.

Turned out - she passed the GED and went to college but she withdrew after crazy partying so recently, she found a job in medical career and make $10 per hour.
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Well ur sister fought with principal and She broke a law. What about girl from video?. did she fought with teacher and cop? No . She only broke school rule because she was disruptive. Cop broke a law and she not.
 
That's what discipline is for, my parents were strict too. When I was in trouble, I was grounded and when teacher called my parents, I was grounded. I was taught to respect adults and if I didn't, my parents would give me a piece of their mind. That's how discipline is.

All parents raise their kids in different way, some spoils them some strict. The culture changed a lot now than before. Money isn't the answer to the problem with police or their kid's action.


Foxrac said:
That's not guaranteed, good parenting isn't always preventing kids from trouble at school.

My parents are STRICT but my sister got in serious trouble so many times and she got in fight with school principal. She went to bootcamp and juvenile but she ended up transfer to mental ward at hospital.

After many pattern of troubles, my parents decided to pull her out of school - she was next to expulsion and put her in homeschooling program and tell her that she is on own.

Turned out - she passed the GED and went to college but she withdrew after crazy partying so recently, she found a job in medical career and make $10 per hour.
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Calvin said:
My parents would say that I learned a lesson and listen to adults and respect the teacher and officer.

The girl's parents probably would think... "I'm going to have a big payday for my daughter's action"

Scary but could be true. :(
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Yeah but not all true. Not 100% true. Ur thought is all about black folk chasing money. Smh what if girl's parents are not about money, they all care about justice against violence.
 
Foxrac said:
That's not guaranteed, good parenting isn't always preventing kids from trouble at school.

My parents are STRICT but my sister got in serious trouble so many times and she got in fight with school principal. She went to bootcamp and juvenile but she ended up transfer to mental ward at hospital.

After many pattern of troubles, my parents decided to pull her out of school - she was next to expulsion and put her in homeschooling program and tell her that she is on own.

Turned out - she passed the GED and went to college but she withdrew after crazy partying so recently, she found a job in medical career and make $10 per hour.
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I Congrats ur sister got good job but my young cousin end up in jail.
 
Calvin said:
That's what discipline is for, my parents were strict too. When I was in trouble, I was grounded and when teacher called my parents, I was grounded. I was taught to respect adults and if I didn't, my parents would give me a piece of their mind. That's how discipline is.

All parents raise their kids in different way, some spoils them some strict. The culture changed a lot now than before. Money isn't the answer to the problem with police or their kid's action.
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My parents punished my sister so numerous time (totally countless) - they spanked her, slapped her face, grabbed her front shirt, took TV, computer away and grounded but she still run away and ruin my parent's time in big time, also they had to pay court fee over situation between my sister and police officers.

My parents gave up and told sister to be on own, also they could dump her to YWCA in downtown, but they are skeptical that she could commit crime and end up in jail (eventually prison if it is conviction of felony crime). She didn't care about her life and my family - she's just tough monster woman.

It is not guaranteed that good parenting will keep children disciplined at all time.

Police officers should use reasonable force, not excessive force and you don't want your tax money goes to victim of excessive force won the lawsuit.
 
ricas27 said:
Well ur sister fought with principal and She broke a law. What about girl from video?. did she fought with teacher and cop? No . She only broke school rule because she was disruptive. Cop broke a law and she not.
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That's correct - juvenile charge but got dismissed due to her mental illness.

ricas27 said:
I Congrats ur sister got good job but my young cousin end up in jail.
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Thanks, also one of my cousin is in GA state prison for burglary and possession of heroin.

I noticed that heroin and meth are popular for white people and crack is popular for black people.
 
Foxrac said:
That's correct - juvenile charge but got dismissed due to her mental illness.



Thanks, also one of my cousin is in GA state prison for burglary and possession of heroin.

I noticed that heroin and meth are popular for white people and crack is popular for black people.
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I don't think heroin and meth make any differences between races. Any race use any drugs.
 
Calvin said:
That's what discipline is for, my parents were strict too. When I was in trouble, I was grounded and when teacher called my parents, I was grounded. I was taught to respect adults and if I didn't, my parents would give me a piece of their mind. That's how discipline is.

All parents raise their kids in different way, some spoils them some strict. The culture changed a lot now than before. Money isn't the answer to the problem with police or their kid's action.
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This what I think should had been done , the school should of called the
foster parent to pick the girl up . I really don't understand why she was in school when she just lost her mom . She could been getting some grief counseling to made sure she was ready to go back school . I think the system failed in this case , if the girl was getting into trouble before she mom dies that should had been a red flag that she needed to have some
kind of counseling after her mom dies and being send to a foster home. Teenagers brains aren't fully mature and can have poor control of their emotions, the police was the adult and should of had more control of his emotions !
 
We don't know what the girl's life was like OUTSIDE of the school other than "her mom died and she is in foster care" . One may have nothing to do with the other. We don't know WHEN the mother died either so it's quite possible the girl was in school because it has been time and/or there likely was not a need for grief counseling. Not everyone needs or even wants counseling when someone dies.

So no the system didn't fail- not in this instance. Maybe the girl was just being ... a teenager who thinks they are 'all that' and and are testing authority figures. That phenomenon is not new- teens have caused problems since the dawn of schooling.

That's not to say that the 'system' (whatever that definition is applied to) isn't bad... it still needs improvements in every area- proper resources for kids AND teachers, better pay for teachers, better class teacher to student ratio (good god-- some of the ratios I've seen are horrendous...), better training for other school personnel. Resource Officer I had never even heard of but I went to a really small high school- will be curious to see what people I know will say about that.


Both of them were in the wrong on what happened regardless of 'why'- the girl was just plain disrespectful- no excuse, the officer did a little more than he should have. We can sit here and over analyze after the fact but we'll never know anyway.
 
DeafDucky said:
We don't know what the girl's life was like OUTSIDE of the school other than "her mom died and she is in foster care" . One may have nothing to do with the other. We don't know WHEN the mother died either so it's quite possible the girl was in school because it has been time and/or there likely was not a need for grief counseling. Not everyone needs or even wants counseling when someone dies.

So no the system didn't fail- not in this instance. Maybe the girl was just being ... a teenager who thinks they are 'all that' and and are testing authority figures. That phenomenon is not new- teens have caused problems since the dawn of schooling.

That's not to say that the 'system' (whatever that definition is applied to) isn't bad... it still needs improvements in every area- proper resources for kids AND teachers, better pay for teachers, better class teacher to student ratio (good god-- some of the ratios I've seen are horrendous...), better training for other school personnel. Resource Officer I had never even heard of but I went to a really small high school- will be curious to see what people I know will say about that.


Both of them were in the wrong on what happened regardless of 'why'- the girl was just plain disrespectful- no excuse, the officer did a little more than he should have. We can sit here and over analyze after the fact but we'll never know anyway.
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I never heard about resource officer - they didn't come to school until after Columbine shooting and 9/11 attack but they do call regular police officers for serious cases.
 
Police Officer/student conflict

I didn't get the whole story from the news on the girl who disrespected her teacher. The only side that I got from Facebook (which of course is not a reliable source of information) but the story that I got was the officer putting her under arrest and everyone having a field day because she was a child. But I'm sorry to say that if we taught out children more respect for authoritative figures and for others in general less of this sort of thing is likely to happen in the future. We must have order in the classroom and in the general public, maybe there could have been a better solution but maybe it took for this to happen in order for her to show her teacher respect the next time this happens. When I was growing up I never thought of being disrespectful to my teachers because I knew that if they told my parents what happened I would have to deal with them when I got home. Being respectful to others is something that is not being taught anymore. Even we I go to any store now there are kids hitting and kicking their parents and the parents just let them. There are ways to teach are children that do not include spanking or constantly punishing them, but in order for children to learn you have to talk to them about their actions and explain why it is unacceptable behavior and its very hard for teachers/parents to get the time to do that, but we must make time for that. But there all kids are great, they simply have to be taught. Just like we all do.
 
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