Experiences with my daughter.

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Tousi said:
I get the point but native ASLers easily play cards with one hand except during the intervening seconds it takes to discard cards.
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Hello? did you forget Im not native ASLer either are my children....
 
Angel said:
Hello? did you forget Im not native ASLer either are my children....
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You know, Angel, as much as I hate having to tip-toe lest I offend someone, if you would re-read, you would see that I was actually supporting what you were saying except it's on an incrementally higher plane of skill.
 
Tousi said:
You know, Angel, as much as I hate having to tip-toe lest I offend someone, if you would re-read, you would see that I was actually supporting what you were saying except it's on an incrementally higher plane of skill.
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I did read your post I thought you were replying this to Neecy and I had to remind you that I'm not a native ASLer either are my children , I'm sorry you thought I was being offend which I wasn't...
 
Okay so some can and some can't. If somebody can't (like me) I can only hope it won't be used to bring up a case of bad parenting ( like almost everything else in this forum is ) and yet another example of how a parent of a CI-implantee is suppressing their children's "deaf identity"....I could immediately see where this was heading.
 
neecy said:
Okay so some can and some can't. If somebody can't (like me) I can only hope it won't be used to bring up a case of bad parenting ( like almost everything else in this forum is ) and yet another example of how a parent of a CI-implantee is suppressing their children's "deaf identity"....I could immediately see where this was heading.
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Oh no, I will never think of that Neecy..I'll be very honest, I don't see it as a case of bad parenting, sometimes it is hard to sign when you're holding something in both hands..It happens to me once in awhile so I'm not gonna to lie about that...


And about the "deaf identity" well, what can I say, I admit I was upset about that yeah....
 
neecy said:
Even as an adult with better eye-hand coordination as a child, I found it extremely difficult to play cards AND sign! Let alone for a child with little hands, having to hold them all up AND sign "do you have a....."
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And it isn't possible to lay the cards face down down on the table? And difficult doesn't translate to impossible.
 
Angel said:
Oh no, I will never think of that Neecy..I'll be very honest, I don't see it as a case of bad parenting, sometimes it is hard to sign when you're holding something in both hands..It happens to me once in awhile so I'm not gonna to lie about that...


And about the "deaf identity" well, what can I say, I admit I was upset about that yeah....
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No one said anything about bad parenting. I was simply addressing the assertion that a deaf child cannot play a game of cards and sign at the same time. That is simply not true.
 
Cloggy said:
Yes, I'm sure it might be used again. You should stop reading between the lines, because it really confuses you. Not strange, as there is nothing to see there...

My hands - the are holding the cards when I play cards with Lotte. She also holds the cards in her hand. Then she asks me if I have a certain card, I ask her.... We couldn't sign if we had wanted to.
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We play card games with our students so yes, we managed to play cards and sign. It is not difficult.


There are Deaf poker tourneys and stuff like that. Cards are not an obstacle to our communication needs.
 
Angel said:
Are you serious?...my son signs with one hand while hes holding the cards on the other hand and so does my husband and I....


Nothing is impossible, people can do it if they try...


Cute little girl....*smiling*
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Lotte was 4 at the time... your son is ????
 
Angel said:
Are you serious?...my son signs with one hand while hes holding the cards on the other hand and so does my husband and I....


Nothing is impossible, people can do it if they try...


Cute little girl....*smiling*
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Yes, that's right... We signs with one hand and hold the card on other hand when we play card "SOLO", too.

It's really not hard what some people thought.

Cloggy, Lottie grow big now... she look cute ...
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Yes, that's right... We signs with one hand and hold the card on other hand when we play card "SOLO", too.

It's really not hard what some people thought.

Cloggy, Lottie grow big now... she look cute ...
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Thanks... ( btw.... LOTTE) )

Her hands are a bit smaller that the average grown-up....

And of course she can use 1 hand. She still has to take cards, or give cards away....
 
BTE's - behind the ear?

As most readers of Lotte's blog know, Lotte has nothing hanging on the ear.
Her processor is on her shoulders in two little bags, and they go straight to the coil on the head.

It has never been a problem for Lotte, or us. There's no problems in windy environment. The processor will be below the jacket. Free of wind and rain, and she will still be able to hear us. Probably better then when they would be on the ear.... wind will make a lot of noise.

The only time when she has it behind the ears is just before she goes to bed, or straight from the shower or bathtub, when she's naked.
And she's fine with that. BUT.... not when she is dressed.
She'll happily "allow" the BTE to be hanged on the ear when reading a book (she slept with only her undy during the summer) but if there's any clothing on her, as in T-shirt, PJ's etc, she will refuse.

She's so comfortable with (and used to) the BTE's on the shoulders, that I sometimes wonder when she will want them on the ears.
I guess when she goes to school, becomes more aware of other children... who knows.

For the moment, we just continue with this system. Lotte wants to, and we like it as well.
No CI's falling on the ground. No CI's that need to be dug up from the sand-pit, from a pool, etc.... no processor getting wet, no lumps on her back....
It's great!
 
Lotte's calling

We have used the phone for quite a while now. Speaker-phones are great and have been in use by Lotte for quite a while. She'll get the phone and start walking through the house - talking with grandma, or anyone alse willing to listen to her.

Handheld is fine as well, but it requires the earpiece to be held by her shoulder, since that's where she has the processor. Still, she is perfectly able to understand what is being said.

Yesterday, I had a clear conversation with her.
Previously, it would be Lotte that would be talking, but yesterday I was able to make her listen to my questions, and I got the answers I was expecting.
Her vocabulary is increasing fast now, in Dutch and Norwegian, so that makes it more easy to ask & answer.

But it was just great to realise that she has access to other people that are not within reach, and she realises that.
At the time of writing, I am working offshore. So, when my wife was talking to me, I heared Lotte say that she wanted to talk to me. She wanted to tell about her day...

Have to love it !
 
wow, it's wonderful positive updated about Lotte.

I am impress that Lotte can talk both languages.
 
Cloggy said:
We have used the phone for quite a while now. Speaker-phones are great and have been in use by Lotte for quite a while. She'll get the phone and start walking through the house - talking with grandma, or anyone alse willing to listen to her.

Handheld is fine as well, but it requires the earpiece to be held by her shoulder, since that's where she has the processor. Still, she is perfectly able to understand what is being said.

Yesterday, I had a clear conversation with her.
Previously, it would be Lotte that would be talking, but yesterday I was able to make her listen to my questions, and I got the answers I was expecting.
Her vocabulary is increasing fast now, in Dutch and Norwegian, so that makes it more easy to ask & answer.

But it was just great to realise that she has access to other people that are not within reach, and she realises that.
At the time of writing, I am working offshore. So, when my wife was talking to me, I heared Lotte say that she wanted to talk to me. She wanted to tell about her day...

Have to love it !
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Fabulous Cloggy!:h5::applause::thumb:
 
Cloggy said:
We have used the phone for quite a while now. Speaker-phones are great and have been in use by Lotte for quite a while. She'll get the phone and start walking through the house - talking with grandma, or anyone alse willing to listen to her.

Handheld is fine as well, but it requires the earpiece to be held by her shoulder, since that's where she has the processor. Still, she is perfectly able to understand what is being said.

Yesterday, I had a clear conversation with her.
Previously, it would be Lotte that would be talking, but yesterday I was able to make her listen to my questions, and I got the answers I was expecting.
Her vocabulary is increasing fast now, in Dutch and Norwegian, so that makes it more easy to ask & answer.

But it was just great to realise that she has access to other people that are not within reach, and she realises that.
At the time of writing, I am working offshore. So, when my wife was talking to me, I heared Lotte say that she wanted to talk to me. She wanted to tell about her day...

Have to love it !
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Awww that is lovely! It must be great to be able to hear each others' voices when you are away working off shore.
 
Your daughter is very cute! How is she doing? I didn't read all the posts before they were removed, but Cloggy I am impressed that as a hearing dad (right?) you are so interested in deaf/HoH issues that you post and blog here. :)
 
Kaitin said:
Your daughter is very cute! How is she doing? I didn't read all the posts before they were removed, but Cloggy I am impressed that as a hearing dad (right?) you are so interested in deaf/HoH issues that you post and blog here. :)
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You've got excellent taste.. LOL

She's doing great, as you might have read allready. In theis thread, there's a lot of stages missing since I started a blog for her.

When I visited messageboards to learn about d/Deaf HOH CI culture, I found that there is little knowledge about children with CI, so I thought that it would be good to show how a child with CI is doing.
And there are a lot of misconceptions.... It's good to have some people in here that can correct it...
 
Back to the Past

Yesterday, Sunday, Lotte suddenly remembered one of the teachers (U.) of her previous kindergarten. This is one of the deaf teachers there, who can speak very well. Lotte asked if she could go to the kindergarten and meet her..
SO today, we called the kindergarten and asked if Lotte could visit. She was very welcome!
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(Lotte in that kindergarten, March 2006)​
Arriving at the school, she remembered where she had played and walked. After all, it is only 1-1/2 years ago, but for Lotte, that is quite a lifetime.
We went inside, and she recognised the school. There are only a few teachers there from the time she has been there, so she was very shy.
But, when U. appeared, she lightened up.
But, even though U. speaks well, she uses sign all the time. It was obvious that Lotte did not follow it. She listened to the speech.
This was even more obvious when another teacher arrived on the scene. This teacher, M. is also deaf, but her speech is very distorted. Difficult to understand for us, but for Lotte is was very strange. She kept her distance from this teacher.

But it was good to see them again. Lotte had obviously grown a lot, and everyone was glad to see her. They still had a book that Lotte "forgot" when she left there, so U. and Lotte went to get it. It didn't leave Lotte's side from then on...

Going out, it was funny to see that Lotte was looking for her coat in the "usual" place from when she went to that school. Straight back into the old habits....

For us, we could see how good our decision has been to have Lotte in an all-hearing kindergarten. The contrast between the two schools are quite big. Obviously, it is difficult to predict where Lotte would have been had she still been going to the deaf/hoh/ci/hearing kindergarten....
 
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