Ex-Penn coach charges in sex cases

It becomes very heated. If you were bombarded with Islamic rhetoric regarding the Bible, relentlessly bashing it, how would you react? That is what happened.

This is off topics, but you react by refuting the specific point itself not attacking the entire view. If someone says X they explain exactly why you disagree with X not why you disagree with Y.

This is the reason for the forum rule against religion, I believe, because it is NOT specific enough and you get bashing, as you stated.
 
Fuck Joe Paterno, and fuck Penn State. They can take their "boo hoo, this isn't how it should have happened; you just don't understand" bullshit and shove it up their asses. Maybe then they'll start to realize the pain inflicted on numerous victims who will be scarred for life (total number still unknown, but could become much higher as more victims come forward).

This ridiculous attitude is what happens when people whorship human figures and treat sports like a religious activity. IT'S JUST FOOTBALL, AND HE WAS JUST A FOOTBALL COACH, no matter how you try and imbibe it with your ridiculous heartfelt emotions. This is the same sort of behavior that prompts people to beat up fans of opposing teams. "Oh, it's the love of the game. Crime of passion"--get the fuck out of here.

Adios, Jo Pa Scumbag. The sooner Nitwits dry their crying eyes and realize their false god is no more, the sooner the victims can receive justice.

Just football? Then you can't understand it. They're so powerful that it's hard for them to think. You got job thru football, most of them.
 
Just football? Then you can't understand it. They're so powerful that it's hard for them to think. You got job thru football, most of them.

This is one example, the above post is not bashing or defending football, he is stating the reason for a certain mind set within football. In my view, this is a perfectly valid argument to why the thread topic occurred.
 
I disagree. If you notice my post includes a link, which has been plastered over CNN, Boston, Washington Post and just about every other news outlet comparing what is happening at Penn State with the church. It is, in fact, part of the story and the parallels are being debated not only on this forum, but all over the world. It's not off topic, the other poster was correct.

Just this morning CNN posted another comparison.

I did not say there was not a comparison. I said it didn't need to be brought into this thread for a very specific reason. Stop arguing and start reading.l:cool2:
 
I did not say there was not a comparison. I said it didn't need to be brought into this thread for a very specific reason. Stop arguing and start reading.l:cool2:

And, I argued that it did because it was on topic to the thread as it specifically addressed the Penn State Scandal.
 
This is off topics, but you react by refuting the specific point itself not attacking the entire view. If someone says X they explain exactly why you disagree with X not why you disagree with Y.

This is the reason for the forum rule against religion, I believe, because it is NOT specific enough and you get bashing, as you stated.

You really should not be making assumptions about things that you were never involved in. There is a reason for the ban. Accept it. Move on.
 
And, I argued that it did because it was on topic to the thread as it specifically addressed the Penn State Scandal.

Move on. You can keep arguing about things you know nothing about, or you can abide by the rules and move on. Your choice.

The better choice would be to get back to the instance that is specific to Penn and Joe Pa and his cohorts.
 
Just football? Then you can't understand it. They're so powerful that it's hard for them to think. You got job thru football, most of them.

No.

This is one example, the above post is not bashing or defending football, he is stating the reason for a certain mind set within football. In my view, this is a perfectly valid argument to why the thread topic occurred.

Yes.

I just don't understand people who make sports some sort of spiritual communion. All these Nitwit kids rioting in the streets and crying about losing Joe Pa but at the same time saying they feel bad for the victims are just kidding themselves. Joe Pa got what he deserved. At least he appears man enough to accept it. I respect that.

Maybe in a few years, when all of this is behind us and justice has been give to Sandusky's victims, Penn State can correctly honor Joe Pa's legacy, but for right now they need to STFU and let this go.
 
Just football? Then you can't understand it. They're so powerful that it's hard for them to think. You got job thru football, most of them.

The safety and wellness of the children comes first, not the pigskin ball.
 
Just football? Then you can't understand it. They're so powerful that it's hard for them to think. You got job thru football, most of them.

I have to agree with Alex, it is JUST FOOTBALL! These men had an obligation to do something! :shock: For crying out loud, people are first and foremost HUMAN BEINGS! Not FANS!!

And I hope that Mike McQueary is feeling like a total Dbag having DONE NOTHING for that little boy! The perp saw him, the kid saw him, can you imagine being that little boy and thinking OMG its over its going to stop someone saw this, That coward turned his back and walked away only to call daddy! And this wasn't like an 18 year old college student, this was a 28 year old man. If the fans and students of Penn State can't rationalize what is going on here, I dont even know what to say!

Coach Paterno has admitted he should have done something more, NO ONE is taking away what this man has meant to soooo many. BUT, his statue out side of the stadium says, "TEACHER, COACH and HUMANITARIAN" To be a humanitarian you must put humans first.. And he did the bare minimum as a teacher, coach and humanitarian.
 
I saw on the news this a.m. that McQueary will NOT be at the game on Saturday after all. Good thinking, Penn State. It finally dawned on them that the first guy in the chain who could have done something, but didn't, has no place on the sidelines. Not now, maybe not ever. But certainly not now.
 
I'm just appalled at this story. How many people does it take to protect a child?? Sure, we should all protect the child... but nothing happens until the first person takes action. If I were that grad student (McQueary?) I'd be really miserable right now.

We ALL have a responsibility to the children. :(
 
I saw on the news this a.m. that McQueary will NOT be at the game on Saturday after all. Good thinking, Penn State. It finally dawned on them that the first guy in the chain who could have done something, but didn't, has no place on the sidelines. Not now, maybe not ever. But certainly not now.

To be fair, McQueary is the one who brought it to the universities attention. He told the head coach and university officials as well.

He should have told the police as well, as the other officials should have done.
 
To be fair, McQueary is the one who brought it to the universities attention. He told the head coach and university officials as well.

He should have told the police as well, as the other officials should have done.

And he did nothing when he said a boy being raped in the shower!
 
I saw on the news this a.m. that McQueary will NOT be at the game on Saturday after all. Good thinking, Penn State. It finally dawned on them that the first guy in the chain who could have done something, but didn't, has no place on the sidelines. Not now, maybe not ever. But certainly not now.

I think it had more to do with the threats that have been issued against him if he did than with good thinking.

Funny that they are concerned with protecting him against threats when he did not feel the need to protect children from same.
 
I'm just appalled at this story. How many people does it take to protect a child?? Sure, we should all protect the child... but nothing happens until the first person takes action. If I were that grad student (McQueary?) I'd be really miserable right now.

We ALL have a responsibility to the children. :(

You know, I think this is all a good demonstration of an entire program ignoring and the university sanctioning ignoring, anything that might cast a bad light on a program that brings money into the university the way football does.
 
To be fair, McQueary is the one who brought it to the universities attention. He told the head coach and university officials as well.

He should have told the police as well, as the other officials should have done.

I think it's too late for him to be patting himself on the back. I think it's important to make the point that doing the minimum required is simply doing too little. He may not be criminally responsible, but he is socially responsible. And this is something he is going to have to live with.
 
The strange thing is that since McQueary DID tell Paterno about it, he is now protected, apparently, under "whistleblower" laws. It's not entirely clear to me why he should have this protection but Paterno doesn't, since Paterno also did tell the next guy up in the chain.

So this little itsy-bitsy thing he did, the NEXT DAY, when it was too late to actually help the child in question, might end up protecting his job.

Yuuuucccckkkk.

The Washington Post today printed a time-line of what happened when, so far as is known. What was obvious: in two cases, the mothers of the boys got involved, calling the police, and in one case, the school principal, who then banned Sandusky from having any more contact with children at that school.

Those were the ONLY two cases where anyone actually stood up to protect the kids. Word of warning to moms: you are the last, best hope to protect your kids. Don't look to the men who are running programs to do it; they will protect their programs before they will your kid.
 
The strange thing is that since McQueary DID tell Paterno about it, he is now protected, apparently, under "whistleblower" laws. It's not entirely clear to me why he should have this protection but Paterno doesn't, since Paterno also did tell the next guy up in the chain.

So this little itsy-bitsy thing he did, the NEXT DAY, when it was too late to actually help the child in question, might end up protecting his job.

Yuuuucccckkkk.

The Washington Post today printed a time-line of what happened when, so far as is known. What was obvious: in two cases, the mothers of the boys got involved, calling the police, and in one case, the school principal, who then banned Sandusky from having any more contact with children at that school.

Those were the ONLY two cases where anyone actually stood up to protect the kids. Word of warning to moms: you are the last, best hope to protect your kids. Don't look to the men who are running programs to do it; they will protect their programs before they will your kid.

If he keeps the job, he better pray for deafness. And always have armor on when he goes out in public.
 
The strange thing is that since McQueary DID tell Paterno about it, he is now protected, apparently, under "whistleblower" laws. It's not entirely clear to me why he should have this protection but Paterno doesn't, since Paterno also did tell the next guy up in the chain.

So this little itsy-bitsy thing he did, the NEXT DAY, when it was too late to actually help the child in question, might end up protecting his job.

Yuuuucccckkkk.

The Washington Post today printed a time-line of what happened when, so far as is known. What was obvious: in two cases, the mothers of the boys got involved, calling the police, and in one case, the school principal, who then banned Sandusky from having any more contact with children at that school.

Those were the ONLY two cases where anyone actually stood up to protect the kids. Word of warning to moms: you are the last, best hope to protect your kids. Don't look to the men who are running programs to do it; they will protect their programs before they will your kid.

The difference is the educator (coach) is legally bound by law to report it. The student does not have a legal obligation to report it to the police. Now, what constitutes a legal report? I'm not sure, but I would guess that it would require the report going to the police.

Obviously I am not a legal consultant (just a computer jockey) so feel free to correct me.
 
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