EVIDENCE of being deaf with Hearing Aid device

[SxyPorkie]

It's official: GNU, you have been so :Owned:

Thank you ismi!

You are very clever... you have been goading at GNU into name calling,,,I am laughing so hard,,,,I thought you were a nice guy,,, you had proved me wrong...

SxyPorkie

 

[sr171soars]

*DISCLAIMER*
If you haven't read all my posts here, don't waste time replying to me.

My family and I had a wonderful talk on VP tonight. I told them that I've decided to receive a cochlear implant only if I'm able to benefit from it. It is for reasons I shouldn't even have to explain but if you must know: I yearn to dance lovingly with my wife to beautiful music. I want to be a true knight in shining armor to my wife. I want to hear my wife and our children's voices as well as the world's many voices. Those reasons are only the tip of the iceberg.

We also agreed that Sweetmind and the others do have good intentions but they are misguided.

I will say a big hearty CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! Obviously, this is a start of a journey. Best wishes to you and your family in this endeavor.

 

[sr171soars]

And we don't?....

Exactly!!!!

Nobody's experience captures the sum of all experiences of every living soul who had ever lived or is living. It is just one person's thoughts and experiences...and one cannot speak nor should do so for all of us.

 

[sr171soars]

Oh, I never expected anyone to know Dick Vermeil...

Sorry to be off topic here but I couldn't resist...

Er...I remember when he was the coach of the Eagles and when they went to a super bowl way back when...

Some of us do go back centuries...er decades

 

[sr171soars]

Ditto for Boult's ramblings...

 

[gnulinuxman]

You're a riot. They know what hearing aids are and they are starting to be more educated about cochlear implants. And what's wrong with educating them about cochlear implants?

Nothing at all. But that means pointing out both sides of the issue, not just the success stories.

Samantha Manson would say all people with hearing loss are unique no matter what they do about it. What do you think about your idol, now?

Very true, but you don't notice that I have been promoting uniqueness, or if you do, you think I'm smoking something exotic. I still think she's right. :P

And what's so funny about this war between deaf and "hearing" worlds? The hearing people doesn't even realize they're hearing!!!!!! They live their lives in a groove when most deaf people keep obsessing over themselves.

True about hearing people, but only because they get only the CI success stories. Deaf culture needs to be more public, though.

 

[gnulinuxman]

Your original point was that having a CI changes you because it changes the reaction of hearing people to deaf people with a CI. My point is that I could care less about the reaction of hearing people to me since the CI is for my benefit not theirs.

And if I or anyone else changes - so what?

Still not my point. Try again.

 

[gnulinuxman]

Exactly!!!!

Nobody's experience captures the sum of all experiences of every living soul who had ever lived or is living. It is just one person's thoughts and experiences...and one cannot speak nor should do so for all of us.

Agreed.

 

[gnulinuxman]

OK, you are smoking something exotic.



That is how I know you are so full of it. You can run but you can't hide. Why don't you snatch your grandma's walking cane away from her and tell her to walk on her bum knees? And fling her eyeglasses away and tell her to read her newspaper because that is how she should overcome her handicaps? You don't realize how much you are talking out of your ass.

And the name calling? You are just offended that nobody agrees with you then on top of that, I called you a few names that I used when I was in elementary school. I can't imagine how it will be for you when you are forced to live on your own. I feel sorry for your parents. Scratch that, I feel sorry for you when Rude Awakening comes calling soon enough in the future.

As for my mom, she knows better to not waste a second on you because she is wise about her time management. She's only here to learn information and play the devil's advocate if you haven't noticed it (I know, you obviously haven't).

You call this not wasting a second on me?

EXACTLY!!!! gnukid is just parroting what s.m. says over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and.....

good post!

 

[loml]

gnulinuxman

As for cochlear implants, read those pro-CI articles (like the "Hears my boy..." mentioned in another thread). When the average person sees that and has a deaf child, they may just go by that article and expect their kid to be "fixed".

Hearing people do not spend anytime learning about CI's, hearing aides, lip reading etc. unless they a personal reason.

In the big picture of lfe, you have only made a few brush stokes. There are people with life skills on this board, that I would wager a guess, you have never even contimplated. Life is about learning, you read as if you are stuck in the first chapter of the book.

 

[loml]

Originally Posted by R2D2

Your original point was that having a CI changes you because it changes the reaction of hearing people to deaf people with a CI. My point is that I could care less about the reaction of hearing people to me since the CI is for my benefit not theirs.And if I or anyone else changes - so what?

gnulinuxman

No, it changes the way most hearing people look at you. They look at you like you are a hearing person

gnulinuxman

Still not my point. Try again.

I beginning to think there is not point.

 

[Cloggy]

I beginning to think there is not point.

BINGO!

 

[Audiofuzzy]

Hearing people do not spend anytime learning about CI's, hearing aides, lip reading etc. unless they a personal reason.

and the deaf people are?
you know what suprised me most upon coming to this site? how little the deaf people know about CI, involved surgery, involved therapy, how much misinformation circle amongst the deaf people about CIs, and sometimes even people who underwent CI operation does not fully comhprehend what exactly was done and how.
many don't know the fundamental difference between CI and HAs -they think CI is just a stronger version of CI- which is and is NOT, many thinks there is big hole drilled thru your head, and many other myths.

Do you know how many deaf people here admitted reading Beverly Biderman book about her own experience with CI surgery and the therapy after? NONE.

Fuzzy

 

[sr171soars]

Agreed.

Ummm when gnu agrees with me, something isn't quite right...

I hope you understood I was agreeing with Angel as a counterpoint to SM opinion about things?

 

[Boult]

That is my MO. I couldn't care less who were with me as long as I had a good time.

*edit*

for example, my best friends right now are: my deaf brother in law and one of my co-worker who is hearing. I've had around 10 best friends from various backgrounds that doesn't necessarily involve hearing abilities.

Last night I tried to repsond to this post with this;




and Cox, my cable provider went on outage binge till this afternoon.

so now this is late message;

again I want to say;

 

[loml]

Audiofuzzy

and the deaf people are?

Good Point Audiofuzzy!

 

[Bear]

Bear,

I do understand the point you are trying to make. I agree that if there were no devices in the world that deaf people could get by and improvise. It's nothing to do with our ability or intelligence. However they would be somewhat much restricted to the type of roles that you mentioned in your examples because the reality is that the hearing world demands good communication skills for more skilled work. In my field of training, accounting I just would not survive if I didn't have a device. And yet I love that work. If I had to work in a store I would feel that I wasn't reaching my personal potential. I hope this doesn't come across rude or condescending in any way to others here that work in a store.

It's not just deaf people who are affected by the nature of our work society. My nephew is autistic and he loves computer programming (no not Gnu) but he has difficulty in communicating with people and while he would be an excellent programmer most jobs will demand that he has good communication skills as well. It's nothing to do with his abilities but everything to do with the level at which he can relate to others.

Again this begs the question of should we be conforming to the status quo. I myself prefer to be pragmatic and rather than trying to start a revolution just quietly get on with things and provide for my family.

R2D2,

Your misunderstanding my post, it was in reply to someone here saying that deaf cant do these types of jobs. I was just showing that yes there is a way. Cause I was there and did it lol.

But I do understand where you are coming from and yes I do realize they demand good communication skills. My question to THEM that demand this is, since when is writing not a form of communication?

Bear

 

[loml]

May I contribute here.....

Bear

My question to THEM that demand this is, since when is writing not a form of communication?

I agree that writing is communication. Unfortuantely, some people have little or no patience. In fact some people have little or no manners..... but then again that is a differrent topic

 

[gnulinuxman]

Ummm when gnu agrees with me, something isn't quite right...

I hope you understood I was agreeing with Angel as a counterpoint to SM opinion about things?

I know.

 

[gnulinuxman]

I agree that writing is communication. Unfortuantely, some people have little or no patience. In fact some people have little or no manners..... but then again that is a differrent topic

And you are interested in pleasing these rude people?